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Comments on news posted 2017-05-02 07:40:02: After having neglected the segment for some time, Verizon is ramping up its attention on the prepaid wireless market with a new, $80 unlimited data prepaid option. ..


pende_tim
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No Tethering?

I thought as part of some consent order around spectrum back a few years ago Verizon had to offer free tethering.
IanR
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Too little too late.

Too little too late.

Packeteers
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what GB does throttle kick in?

"Once high-speeds data allowance is used, 128 kbps speeds for the rest of the month"
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Re: No Tethering?

That is half the point you promise it to get approval for what you want worst case you get sued or fined for a small amount but you make way more than you would have originally by not offering it so it's a win/win to them.
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Already $80

Isn't it $80 unlimited postpaid already for Verizon?

So why pay the same price for prepaid when you get sent to the back of the line?
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Re: No Tethering?

While it doesn't say in this document, unlimited data plan users were exempt from free tethering. »apps.fcc.gov/edocs_publi ··· 01A1.pdf
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just root your phone

Transmaster
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Har-de-har-har

They have a so-called unlimited plan they are trying to sell me. Unlimited ya right, in the fine print you read that you "might" ("might" LMAOROTF) get throttled if you use above 22gig's a mouth. Plus I would start getting charged for my personally own MiFi, read additional devices. I am perfectly happy with my 15 gig bucket which everything shares in of which I rarely come close to using all of. In Cheyenne, and Wyoming as a whole, there really is no other choice the other carriers suck swamp water.
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Re: No Tethering?

How do I root my phone do I put it in a flower pot with some dirt and add water?
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Re: Already $80

If you have bad credit and can't get postpaid prepaid is your only option.
Tchaika
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Verizon won't deny you for bad credit unless you owe them money. What they will do is ask for a fairly hefty deposit (as high as $1,000 years ago, I think the current maximum may be lower) that is probably outside your means if your credit is trashed. They may also restrict certain services (international) for those with lousy credit, irrespective of any deposit.

FWIW, they're decent enough to focus on your current credit standing, not yesterday; I have seen credit checks come back with no deposit approvals for folks with recent (weeks) bankruptcy discharges.
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Re: Har-de-har-har

It's not a throttle, it's a different QCI value; customers who go over 22GB get QCI 9 for their internet session, while everyone else gets QCI 8. If you're on a lightly loaded tower you're not apt to observe any meaningful difference in delivered speeds. You may not even notice a difference on a loaded tower, if you have decent signal and a device capable carrier aggregation.

What they've probably done with this prepaid paid is assign everyone QCI 9 out of the gate. T-Mobile essentially does the same thing with MVNO (including MetroPCS!) customers on their network....

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Missed opportunity

By not allowing the hotspot/tethering feature Verizon,Gophone,and Cricket wireless has missed an opportunity to enhance their service and bring in more customers.

Both Verizon and AT&T management seem very dumb to me. They could charge $10 extra allowing the hotspot feature at 512 kbps and compete better against T mobile.

T mobile management seems to think like the average consumer. At&T and Verizon management seem to think similar to dumb greedy executives.

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Re: Har-de-har-har

I went back and looked at the wording and that is exactly what they said. It was about not a cap, but speed. depending on the time of day and where I am at in Cheyenne I can get over 50 mbps/15mbps
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Re: Missed opportunity

What I see is an effort to force the consumer to purchase additional wireless devices. Instead of a wifi only iPad, a more expensive cellular enabled one. They are charging by the device. The Verizon unlimited plan they are trying to sell me would have a fee for my personally owned MiFi, if I am reading it right.
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When Sprint and T-Mobile are lacking in large amounts of rural coverage compared to VZW and AT&T, you will obviously be left with few options but to stick with them if you wish to go the prepaid route. Even so, both UDP plans look to be intentionally half-assed to make their postpaid alternatives look better in comparison. Sooner stick to the capped plans than the UDPs for prepaid since you aren't as restricted with what you can do with them on Verizon Prepaid and GoPhone.
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Re: Har-de-har-har

I don't understand your comment about being charged for a mifi afaik they have never been free just on some of the older plans (the ME plan for example) it was only a $10/mo line fee where as on the new UDP its $20/line for phones, tablets, hotspots and aircards.

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Re: No Tethering?

said by Joe12345678:

just root your phone

ive got a zte z830, good luck rooting it, you cant. period, end of story, its impossible. there is no way what so ever to root this POS. the few that post they did get root didnt get it for long, the second they restart the phone it "restores" what was removed.

annoys the crap out of me since its 4GB and has 4GB of crap installed.

so "just root your phone" is a null argument until the phone makers are required to allow root no matter wtf the phone company says.
mist668
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Makes me think of this

This plan makes me imagine someone taking another's hand, smashing it with a hammer and then saying go play the piano. Intentionally set up out the gate at a disadvantage.

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Re: what GB does throttle kick in?

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what GB does the throttle kick in

My best guess from there other prepaid plans descriptions is $80 unlimited really means 15GB then throttled, as the other plans are 2GB, 5GB, & 10GB hard cap and then cut off from net access ( or pay overages fee) . Following there algorithm 15 GB then throttled would seem like there game plan strategy. especially since they dont want to undermine there Unlimited 22 GB then throttled post paid plans offerings.
NewbergAgain
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AT&T is better in my general area

So I admit I've played around with both AT&T and Verizon and drove them both way past the 22GB slowdown mark. But it just seems Verizon really went in the tank pretty quickly following their move to so called Unlimited plans. AT&T is pricier but the numbers im seeing blow Verizon totally out of the water all around this area. So much for their "we're the best network" bs claim !

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Re: what GB does throttle kick in?

i wish they'd make an unlimited 3g that's never capped or throttled.
seems ridiculous that in 2017 they still can't do this.

Selenia
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Re: No Tethering?

Vote with your wallet and make the ability to root an item on the list of features you look for in a phone. I become somewhat a loyalist to Nexus/Pixel devices, which Google themselves gives the tools to unlock the bootloader. From there, root is pretty trivial to obtain. That's not the only reason I like these devices but it certainly is one of them By the way, if their detection is like T-Mobile's, you best do it through a VPN, which generally needs root for changing the routing of tethered devices.
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Re: AT&T is better in my general area

Att is better than Verizon in a lot of areas. Central PA is a big one of them. I drive delivery all day with my cricket phone none the less having signal when the Verizon tablet will not.

English center PA is the only place I can say Verizon has a tower in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, others do not. Matter of fact is probably some political shit as there is a bureau of forestry office like 500 feet from it.
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I've posted on this on Howard forums also but it seems whatever AT&T is doing to push these better speeds is at the expense of latency. I am seeing latency 60-80 but on super slow Verizon was 30-40
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Re: what GB does throttle kick in?

Please improve your reading comprehension skills that's disclaimer #4 referring to the 2gb 5gb and 10gb data bucket plans. The disclaimer for unlimited is #5 and it states video will be capped at 480p

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Re: No Tethering?

said by Selenia:

Vote with your wallet and make the ability to root an item on the list of features you look for in a phone. I become somewhat a loyalist to Nexus/Pixel devices, which Google themselves gives the tools to unlock the bootloader. From there, root is pretty trivial to obtain.

yeah i know, i have a nexus tablet "root unlock" was a breath of fresh air.. this phone was an emergency "i need it now because my old pos died" kind of thing.. my next phone will be google..

though mom has a galaxy s3 with "simple mode" if i can do that with rooting on a pixel.....

my point was the average user isnt going to look in to root before they buy, only after they buy and are looking for a way around the tether block.

and i get a bit PO'd that they lock them down so damn tight that even if you get "soft root" they auto recover on a reboot, resulting in you dealing with antiquated crapware that they wont update, or in fact that can NOT be updated because theres not enough room. ah, planned obsolescence is a real PITA.

i never wanted a smart phone, im legally blind, and the so called "accessibility" on these things are practically worthless except for basic texts, maybe email. thats about it. only reason i have it is because GPS is a godsend when you cant see street signs, but even then i have to download the maps before i leave the house. data justs costs to damn much.

POTS was required to provide accessible things for free, i.e. operator assistance, 411. cell phones? not so much. we are the forgotton ones in this tech age.. (i.e. point of sale machines with no audio jack and full touch screens with no tactile feed back, yay, back to depending on OTHER people to use my cards.. but thats a whole different rant.)

Selenia
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All blind people I have talked to say Apple's iPhones and iPads are light-years ahead on accessibility. And there are two blind people that I see using them on a daily basis and they seem to do pretty good. Not much an Apple fan, but you do have to give credit where credit is due. And sometimes you need the right tool for a job and it seems those are the right tool to accommodate blind people.

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said by Selenia:

All blind people I have talked to say Apple's iPhones and iPads are light-years ahead on accessibility. And there are two blind people that I see using them on a daily basis and they seem to do pretty good. Not much an Apple fan, but you do have to give credit where credit is due. And sometimes you need the right tool for a job and it seems those are the right tool to accommodate blind people.

i have an ipad (mini), ive tried using its accessibility features, while they are better than others ive tried there still not fully there. as im legally blind i do have some vision, setting it to "large text" results in pretty much nothing being enlarged on most menus except system menus, and then its not readable, it enlarges the text but not the area its in, so "menu" becomes "ME.." etc

it works for built in apps, but not so much for add on apps.

i just need a 32 inch tablet lol