 amungus
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amungus
Premium Member
2017-Sep-27 12:07 pm
bandwidth?While it may not count against a cap, does it still use standard bandwidth available to you?
Looks like an interesting option, but it's really disappointing that one cannot get such a package over standard digital cable. Especially when one owns an HDHomerun Prime. One should be able to own their own "box" of whatever type and not rely on a Roku that may or may not handle interlaced video properly.
Video quality should be identical, but in so many cases, what we end up with is crap. Whether it's re-compressed in a bad way to a digital cable channel, or a streaming box, it's just sad. It's truly a shame to have "HD" video treated badly in so many cases. | |
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Re: bandwidth?Great to see this, but until they pair it with a DVR, won't really help me. | |
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amungus
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2017-Sep-27 12:39 pm
Re: bandwidth?Their page says it has 20hrs of HD content for 2 channels at once.
Yet another reason I'm not 100% sold on these kinds of services.
Lack of a good way to record to your own device(s). With all the DRM involved, there doesn't seem to be any "good way" to record anything to your own device(s).
While it might be convenient to have a "cloud DVR" (someone else's hard drives), losing the option to be able to record it yourself, archive it how you want, store it as long as you want, put in a huge hard drive, etc., etc., doesn't sit well with me.
Sometimes it's nice to have that ability.
Maybe not for every single random show, but it's nice to be able to go back and watch a whole season or catch up halfway in. Maybe keep a news segment that was important to you. Maybe have a pile of recorded cartoons for your kid(s). Maybe wanting to copy the show and watch it later on a device. Maybe ANY number of things that is easy to do when you have a media center, a TiVo, an OTA recorder (some of which have/had DVD burners built in), etc. | |
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Good point. I love my TiVo to death because it lets me FF over ads. I very much doubt that the "cloud DVR" with 20 whole hours will let one do the same. | |
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| betam4x
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to amungus
Doesn't sound all that interesting to me. $18/mo for the base package with something like 10 channels. +$10 for kids and family, +$15 for entertainment, +$30 for sports and news. $73 total. HBO, showtime, etc. are all something like $15-$20 extra (I don't have the pricing in front of me, but it's the same as cable TV).
AT&T's DirectTV Now offering that $35 promo really spoiled me on pricing. I've yet to find a more compelling option. Hell, even their NON promo package for $35/mo is more compelling than this. They also charge less for various movie channels to boot. | |
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Re: bandwidth?said by betam4x:AT&T's DirectTV Now offering that $35 promo really spoiled me on pricing. I've yet to find a more compelling option. Hell, even their NON promo package for $35/mo is more compelling than this. They also charge less for various movie channels to boot. Yes: DirecTV Now Most Aligned With Consumer Lineup Preferences Among OTTs: Study
'Just Right' package delivers greatest 'core channel coverage,' TiVo findsBy Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - September 27, 2017 » www.multichannel.com/new ··· y/415531quote:
... The lineups of the OTT TV players analyzed in TiVo's study (YouTube TV, Hulu, Sling TV and DirecTV Now) have considerable overlap, but TiVo’s study found that DirecTV Now’s Just Right package delivers 85% of “core channel coverage,” followed by its “Live a Little” package (66.7%), Sling TV’s Orange/Blue combo package (66.7%), Hulu's new live TV offering (63%), PlayStation Vue (59.3%), Sling TV Orange (55.6%), Sling TV Blue (44.4%), and YouTube TV (37%). ...
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TIGERON
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2017-Sep-27 12:13 pm
NO Apple TV, NO Amazon FireScrew that. Sling and HULU offers better and available on both. | |
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Anon21246
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2017-Sep-27 4:01 pm
Re: NO Apple TV, NO Amazon Firesaid by TIGERON:Screw that. Sling and HULU offers better and available on both. Sling sucks. forces me to get Orange and Blue because a couple of channels I want are only available on one or the other. how is that savings? | |
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Anon21246
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2017-Sep-27 5:41 pm
Re: NO Apple TV, NO Amazon Firesaid by Anon21246 :said by TIGERON:Screw that. Sling and HULU offers better and available on both. Sling sucks. forces me to get Orange and Blue because a couple of channels I want are only available on one or the other. how is that savings? Why the downvotes? what I said is 100% true. can't downvote the truth. | |
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Re: NO Apple TV, NO Amazon Firesaid by Anon21246 :said by Anon21246 :said by TIGERON:Screw that. Sling and HULU offers better and available on both. Sling sucks. forces me to get Orange and Blue because a couple of channels I want are only available on one or the other. how is that savings? Why the downvotes? what I said is 100% true. can't downvote the truth. I changed my vote as I partly agree with you. However if you look at the streaming options, they are still in infancy. HULU live needs AMC, A&E, GSN, FX, Sci-Fi to be a good choice. | |
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Leesburg, VA  ·Verizon FiOS
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mikev
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2017-Sep-27 12:20 pm
"Managed IP network"...The service won't count against Comcast usage caps, giving it a notable market advantage over competing services. Comcast insists this isn't a net neutrality violation because the service runs over a managed IP network -- and not the open internet... Which means that you can't watch it on your phone when you're not at your home or the home of another Comcast customer, right? Because if I can watch it over the internet, then it's not "run over a managed IP network". And if I can't watch it over the internet, why would I pick this over Sling or any other streaming TV service that I can watch anywhere with my phone, instead of just being limited to watching at home? | |
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Re: "Managed IP network"...My guess - you'll have to VPN in to your home network to make that work. Kind of like DirecTV where they look for the receivers on the local network and refuse to stream almost anything without seeing one. It's unlikely they will offer "remote viewing" natively. | |
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StreamsIs that right only 2 Streams? | |
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|  tshirt
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tshirt
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2017-Sep-27 2:07 pm
Re: Streamscurrently yes, FAQ implies that might change also while signing in a out it offered (continue watching as a guest) which I can't get back to now, but seem to allow you to permit episodes to be shown to local non resident devices? | |
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news with SPORTS ???who's the moron at comcast who assumed news'aholics have any interest in sports  it should have been news $5 and sports $15 not both for $30... damn cabletv fossils. | |
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tshirt
Premium Member
2017-Sep-27 1:03 pm
Re: news with SPORTS ???said by Packeteers:it should have been news $5 and sports $15 not both for $30.. or even $15 + $15, I never understand why Sports "news" is considered "News" other than current kneeling and dangers of CTE and it certainly doesn't need to be packaged together any more than they need "soap opera Digest" in that package. I'll pass and just use the internet versions of the news sites I choose. | |
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I'd take just the sports for $15 but not 30...and besides its prob not available in HD or 4K which would really push me towards it at maybe the $30.
Give me 4K and damn straight I'll be all over it. | |
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said by Packeteers:who's the moron at comcast who assumed news'aholics have any interest in sports
it should have been news $5 and sports $15 not both for $30... damn cabletv fossils. Not only that, I don't understand why people pay for streaming services (channels other then Netflix, Hulu, Prime) when the most of these channels are free anyway.  Just invest in android box, Roku or clothes hanger and call it a day.  | |
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Ammler
Premium Member
2017-Sep-28 12:19 pm
Re: news with SPORTS ???It is because now CBS is only putting shows on streaming (Star Trek Discovery) instead of the normal OTA channel.
I say boycott CBS All Access and kill this slippery slope before it gets any steeper. | |
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tshirt
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tshirt
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2017-Sep-27 12:44 pm
Confirmation needed, KARL"Comcast says the service will be rolling out to the company's internet-only customers over the next two weeks."
this implies I MUST discontinue my current TV service to even TRY this?
Doesn't that seem self destructive on Comcast's part?
forcing people to cut the CATV cord, dump and overpriced STB, to buy a lesser priced, best choices with virtual DVR service?
" lineup of local broadcast networks, a video on demand library and a cloud DVR with 20 hours of storage for $20 per month '
AND free bandwidth?
If true I can get everything I want at a fraction of the price I pay NOW. | |
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Re: Confirmation needed, KARLsaid by tshirt:"Comcast says the service will be rolling out to the company's internet-only customers over the next two weeks."
This implies I MUST discontinue my current TV service to even TRY this?
Doesn't that seem self destructive on Comcast's part?
Forcing people to cut the CATV cord, dump and overpriced STB, to buy a lesser priced, best choices with virtual DVR service? Well, as Karl also said: said by Karl Bode:Traditionally, companies like Comcast haven't tried very hard to provide or promote these cheaper, less expensive alternatives, for fear of cannibalizing higher-priced legacy cable customers looking to downgrade to save money. Comcast is trying to entice their HSI-only customers to this, not have their linear video ones defect to it. Comcast also has this promo going on this week for their HSI-only subscribers: From: » [NEWS] XFINITY Stream TV Week - Sept 25 to Oct 1said by telcodad:From Monday, September 25th through Sunday, October 1st, XFINITY Internet-only customers will have access to an expanded collection of free TV content on the XFINITY Stream app and web portal as part of XFINITY Stream TV Week.
All you need to do is to log in with your XFINITY credentials to XFINITY Stream via the mobile app or the web portal at »tv.xfinity.com/
More information can be found on this Xfinity forum page: »forums.xfinity.com/t5/St ··· /2969590 | |
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tshirt
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2017-Sep-27 1:18 pm
Re: Confirmation needed, KARLsaid by telcodad:Comcast is trying to entice their HSI-only customers to this, not have their linear video ones defect to it. They're making it very tempting for those of us who mostly want limited basic, with one or 2 add ons, particularly if I can cast it through my X-mo phone. the HD/STB charges and local broadcast fees alone almost equal the base charge of this and loosing the CATV would allow an add on or 2. The biggest value to Comcast is bringing back a few former basic customers and making LIMITED BASIC all IPtv (offer a simplified android stick to meet local "broadcast" requirements) and reclaim those channels for broadband. | |
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Ads still included?Just wondering, as no ads would be a great selling point. | |
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tshirt
Premium Member
2017-Sep-27 1:30 pm
Re: Ads still included?just tried the current version and yes ADs exactly as broadcast on the basic channels and locals I chose HIGH quality but focus seem a bit soft on some channels, not full screen HD | |
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Re: Ads still included?Thanks for the info. | |
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tshirt
Premium Member
2017-Sep-27 2:45 pm
getting to full screen size seems to take 2 clicks one to go fullHD in the window and another to make the window full screen ? quality at center of screen is very good, wolf biltzers beard is fuzzy* but top of head is very clear
*could be CNN's own trimulation, but not as noticeable on TV version | |
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It's a step in the right direction, but...the entertainment bundle is still missing a couple of channels: off the top of my head WGN (for Underground), and where's Cartoon Network (Rick and Morty)? Dump Bravo and give us those. | |
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Re: It's a step in the right direction, but...said by Papageno:Where's Cartoon Network (Rick and Morty)? Cartoon Network is available on the "Kids and Family" package. | |
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Slightly Cheaper than Limited Basic (in Seattle)FWIW, my limited basic package in Seattle is $16.80 but when you add in $7 in rebroadcast fees and some taxes that limited basic plan balloons 66% higher to $27.90 . This sounds like it would be $18 and the line about "inclusive of broadcast fees" sounds like it would be cheaper and provide some DVR/stream capabilities to boot.
That said, I've already dropped Comcast internet and am under Centurylink contract for several more months, so requiring my internet be from Comcast isn't going to work. Also, I'm one of the folks who uses a CableCard. | |
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Re: Slightly Cheaper than Limited Basic (in Seattle)said by ChefJoe:FWIW, my limited basic package in Seattle is $16.80 but when you add in $7 in rebroadcast fees and some taxes that limited basic plan balloons 66% higher to $27.90 . This sounds like it would be $18 and the line about "inclusive of broadcast fees" sounds like it would be cheaper and provide some DVR/stream capabilities to boot.
That said, I've already dropped Comcast internet and am under Centurylink contract for several more months, so requiring my internet be from Comcast isn't going to work. Also, I'm one of the folks who uses a CableCard. That's a deal, Limited Basic w/broadcast fee in Santa Rosa, CA(SF bay area) is $35. I can remember when LB was just $18, and you got the same exact channels you do now! | |
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Anon0ed3d
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2017-Sep-27 2:04 pm
how many live feeds at the same time? and per device fees?how many live feeds at the same time? and per device fees? | |
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Re: how many live feeds at the same time? and per device fees?said by Anon0ed3d :how many live feeds at the same time? and per device fees? Only shows you can record 2 streams or record 1 and watch one. So 2? | |
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Anon6a13c
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2017-Sep-27 2:09 pm
This plus xfinity mobile could make for a compelling bundle dealBuying just one full product from Comcast (broadband) hurts less than buying broadband+full price tv+fullprice wireless. | |
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Re: This plus xfinity mobile could make for a compelling bundle dealbut you have to buy the unlimited package. | |
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PricingThey boofed on pricing. I can get almost all that for $35 from Directv Now | |
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Anon74a1f
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2017-Sep-27 5:05 pm
$20 just for locals?then more for channels you might actually want? | |
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Is WGN available?I don't see it in any of the three packages offered. | |
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Just invest in android box, Roku or clothes hanger and call it a day. 
