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Anon124b7
Anon
2017-Oct-30 10:35 am
Gigabit32 channel bonding already here in Dallas. Give us our gigabit Tommy. |
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Ubee E31U2V1
Tenda Nova MW6
Netgear Orbi
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FinallyIt’s about damn time for some upgrades. Sick of the rate increases, but would be a lot happier if they brought these upgrades to my area, but that is unlikely as it’s going to be probably in the big areas first, not upstate NY. Atleast now they are upgrading to 100/10 as minimum. That is atleast ahead of some companies like Comcast, that have a low base speed for the money. |
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talz13
Member
2017-Oct-30 8:42 am
Yeah, I'm actually mostly happy with the speed offered now. I'm sure it has nothing to do with me starting a new cloud backup of many hundreds of GBs, but that 10M upload really makes a difference! Just a few years ago, we had 1M... So for the backup that took ~10-12 days full time now, it would have taken 3 - 4 months back then! |
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I can see it now...1gb down and 10 mb up...
Key, as it probably St Louis and maybe where ever Google is. Otherwise, they will continue to ignore the rest of the areas they have a monopoly in, who are still stuck with 60mbps as their base speed and haven't even been pushed to 300mbps as their max available speed yet. |
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sestrada
Premium Member
join:2012-11-05
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sestrada
Premium Member
2017-Oct-30 8:55 am
how much?given charter's rate inceases forcing us to flee to competitors or do without, I figure whatever they got planned is designed to milk us dry |
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Soon, you will have no wallet! |
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Ubiquiti UDM-US
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to Chuck_IV
Re: I can see it now...And I bet they'll only offer the 1 gig service where they have competition like in Lee and Montgomery counties in Alabama. Muni fiber in Opelika, WOW in Auburn, and both WOW and Mediacom in Montgomery. Although I bet they won't offer it for anything less than $100 or or $115 per month. I bet they'll drag their feet deploying full-duplex DOCSIS 3.1. OPS won't have meaningful competition until then.  |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?
Premium Member
join:2005-03-14
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to talz13
Re: FinallyDon't hold your breath. My guess is most won't see these speeds for 4-5 years if that. |
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hapster
join:2011-04-05
Shepherdsville, KY
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Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...I'm already at 300/20 and while I'm sure my sons appreciate the speed when downloading large game files, my normal usage doesn't really benefit from it otherwise. The only reason I've kept it, is the 20 Mbps upstream. If it weren't for that, I would downgrade, and save $30/month.
If Spectrum's gigabit service isn't symmetrical, or at least significantly faster upstream than what I have now, I'll have zero interest in upgrading. |
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to Purnerdyl00
Re: FinallyActually, I could see the upgrade coming to NY because of the merger requirements.
The other "key" markets will probably STL and LA, plus maybe some areas of Texas where they have GigaPower competition. |
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kherr
Premium Member
join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL
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to sestrada
Re: how much?that's the BIG question .... that and what UPLOAD. i'm one of the fortunate that have had AT&T Fiber show up in May .... and i have G/G for $70/month (after $10 discount for TP bundle) for life . Charter was $65 for 100/5 (may be 100/10 now ???) at the time.
i have heard that 3.1 uses existing hardware on the distribution lines, but the symmetrical variant requires all new h/w, that you might as well string Fiber ...... |
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 Brian_M
join:2004-06-19
Manchester, GA
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to hapster
Re: Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...Heck, I'm in a house with 2 adults and we don't use the bottom tier (60/5?) to even Half its potential now. I'd dearly love to have an ISP like my cell phone provider. I pay $75/year ($6.25/month) for a total of 2000 minutes and texts... if I could pay $100 for 1TB of data or 1 year, I'd be hard pressed to use the data in a years time (maybe 1.5TB/year).
I know most people would bitch and moan about Utility style billing, pay for what you use, but it'd save me a boatload of money. Provide the fastest speeds possible and just charge by the GB/data |
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kherr
Premium Member
join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL |
kherr
Premium Member
2017-Oct-30 10:02 am
you are right ... many households don't even use the b/w they have with the basic package, but many don't. get a couple of kids, mom/dad working from home (think UPLOAD here), people that use cloud backup (UPLOAD again), 4 people streaming 4K, uploading to YouTube all the time, security cameras streaming ..... 60/5 doesn't go very far .... |
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 mackey
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to Brian_M
said by Brian_M:I know most people would bitch and moan about Utility style billing, pay for what you use, but it'd save me a boatload of money. Provide the fastest speeds possible and just charge by the GB/data I wouldn't be opposed to true utility style billing where if you use 0 you pay $0, however that's not what providers want - they want $70/mo base + $x for speeds over base + $y/GB. Fsck that. |
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to Chuck_IV
Re: I can see it now...I'd expect 35-50 Mbps up. Not fiber speeds, but I'm also optimistic that Austin will get the bump. Had a bit of an outage over the weekend that felt like the sort of outage they do when they upgrade stuff. |
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to kherr
Re: how much?My guess: 35-50M up. They could offer as low as 20M up, but at that point no one would upgrade to the tier if it was more expensive than 300/20. |
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to mackey
Re: Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...Meh, utility style billing would start at like $20 and go up from there. Overhead and such.
But $20 for 100GB plus 20¢ per GB would serve a lot of folks better than the current system, even if I wouldn't like it. |
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Re: Finally300Mbps has been here for a couple of years (former TWC). AT&T has dragged their feet on GigaPower, but parts of LA has Frontier (former VZ) FiOS, so it may get deployed. |
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 djrobx
Premium Member
join:2000-05-31
Reno, NV ·AT&T FTTP
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djrobx
Premium Member
2017-Oct-30 11:54 am
Yep, competition is overall pretty weak in LA. There's some scattered FiOS and GigaPower, but it's far from ubiquitous.
TWC had promised gigabit to LA before the merger, though. There might be some plans/infrastructure already in place to support this effort. |
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 cork1958Cork
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join:2000-02-26 |
to kherr
Re: Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...said by kherr:you are right ... many households don't even use the b/w they have with the basic package, but many don't. get a couple of kids, mom/dad working from home (think UPLOAD here), people that use cloud backup (UPLOAD again), 4 people streaming 4K, uploading to YouTube all the time, security cameras streaming ..... 60/5 doesn't go very far .... Sounds like some of those people need to get off computer for a while and go do something constructive!  I'd be totally happy with a utility style billing. Would be lucky if bill totaled $10 a month then!! Just got the 100/5 basic tier here and Michigan is quite a bit behind everyone else, so don't see any upgrade coming around here in a while. |
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kherr
Premium Member
join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL |
kherr
Premium Member
2017-Oct-30 12:15 pm
Sooooooo ... with everyone at home in the evening/weekends ....... sorry kids, only 2 people in the house can watch TV or be on the computer at a time ......... don't work that way ...... |
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ke4pym
Premium Member
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC |
to kherr
Re: how much?said by kherr:i have heard that 3.1 uses existing hardware on the distribution lines, but the symmetrical variant requires all new h/w, that you might as well string Fiber ...... All new hardware won't cost as much as laying fiber. |
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to talz13
Re: FinallySounds like you need a better backup solution that doesn't backup the entire GBs of data and only does bit level changes. |
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to Chuck_IV
Re: I can see it now...They pretty much have a monopoly in the St. Louis area being AT&T can't compete with their crap offering in a vast majority of it. Therefore in St. Louis, this will probably be limited to the higher end areas (West County where their Corporate office is) and the Chesterfield Valley and not much into the City, North or South County areas. |
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to cork1958
Re: Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...Which is the biggest problem and why many wont support it. Your bill would never be that low because that is not what THEY want.
They would basically do what they do now + charge by the GB. |
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to Anon124b7
Re: GigabitOnly if you have the cash to back it |
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kherr
Premium Member
join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL |
to ke4pym
Re: how much?if there's sufficient fiber to the node, that's a big part of the battle. the headend has to be redone anyway. one thought was to keep the coax going to the homes to prevent ONTs and inside rewiring. there would also be less maintenance. |
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 tstolze
Premium Member
join:2003-08-08
O Fallon, MO |
to Skippy25
Re: I can see it now...said by Skippy25:They pretty much have a monopoly in the St. Louis area being AT&T can't compete with their crap offering in a vast majority of it. Therefore in St. Louis, this will probably be limited to the higher end areas (West County where their Corporate office is) and the Chesterfield Valley and not much into the City, North or South County areas. And much of St. Charles County is serviced by Centurylink, most of whom are lucky to get 10/768 service. Our home is eligible for 3/768. |
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT |
to iansltx
Re: Good that they're finally talking about upgrades but ...said by iansltx:But $20 for 100GB plus 20¢ per GB would serve a lot of folks better than the current system, even if I wouldn't like it. You should look into MidRiver's pricing model in Miles City. I had the biggest "WTF!" look on my face when I read it. » www.midrivers.com/broadband.html |
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Seen that. Telecompetitor mentioned their transition awhile back. |
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