  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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C0deZer0
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2018-Jan-19 4:38 pm
State of the phonesBanks want us to have 'virgin' phones to process payments with, but then they (and their makers) get hacked anyway.
Apple has its own pot of hot controversy going on now. Android phone market is a mess. Microsoft checked out of making phones altogether (again).
Where *can* one go, anymore?
I find myself asking that daily, considering i have a Note 3 variant that's only 3g, but has outlasted its intended replacement, while the end of non-lte support looms much as a guillotine.
So, what can i, as a person that wishes phones were able to be customized in the way one can build a PC, do? I see no point spending money in blatant planned obsolescence. | |
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Re: State of the phonesYou might consider a Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL. Pure Android, and, if you buy it from Google (as opposed to Verizon), the bootloader is unlocked, so you can flash custom builds of Android if you like. Even with the Verizon version, there's no bloatware, and you get OS updates as soon as Google pushes them.
I swapped a S7 edge with a dying battery for the 2 XL, and it's been fantastic. And, while some folks have complained that its OLED screen isn't as vivid as Samsung's, I have no problem with how it looks. As far as the blue tint people have mentioned, yes, it's there, but it's only noticeable when you tilt the phone at an angle you'd never use it at. For normal use, I don't notice it at all. | |
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| | C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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C0deZer0
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2018-Jan-19 7:38 pm
Re: State of the phonessaid by ISurfTooMuch:You might consider a Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL. Pure Android, and, if you buy it from Google (as opposed to Verizon), the bootloader is unlocked, so you can flash custom builds of Android if you like. Even with the Verizon version, there's no bloatware, and you get OS updates as soon as Google pushes them.
I swapped a S7 edge with a dying battery for the 2 XL, and it's been fantastic. And, while some folks have complained that its OLED screen isn't as vivid as Samsung's, I have no problem with how it looks. As far as the blue tint people have mentioned, yes, it's there, but it's only noticeable when you tilt the phone at an angle you'd never use it at. For normal use, I don't notice it at all. Ugh, no. Nexus and Pixel are basically Google aping the worst aspects of the iPhone harder and harder. The sealed battery is a BIG deal breaker for me. If you really need to ask, blame the MXPE I used to have.   | |
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|  Simba7I Void Warranties
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I like my spare phone. It's a Samsung Galaxy S3 (AT&T unlocked) running LineageOS 14.1. For being ~6 years old, it runs really smooth. Can't wait for Oreo to come out for it.
Not to mention, they're cheap on eBay. | |
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"I see no point spending money in blatant planned obsolescence."
Well, I guess your days of commerce are over then...because ALL companies are doing this today. They don't make money when you buy something once and keep it forever. It's the nature of the beast, like it or not. The consumer has clearly (by and large) accepted this reality and adjusted to it. | |
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| | C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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C0deZer0
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2018-Jan-19 10:57 pm
Re: State of the phonesIt's only "gone that way" because every "attempt" to make a modular phone has been so blatantly half-assed at best, and hackneyed at worst. Every single project that claims to bring true modularity, is then just sat on by some stupid company so we never see it. Worst offender was with Project Ara, and how *effing GOOGLE* bought the project and canned it before we ever got to see any of the product. Damn right I'm still pissed about that. Quick charging means nothing if the battery doesn't even last 30 minutes. Wireless charging doesn't mean jack if there's no outlets when the thing is dead to use any such charging method(s). I'm sick of morons who never leave wifi range screwing it up for those of us that actually have to work for a living. | |
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Anon97b40
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2018-Jan-20 1:52 pm
Re: State of the phonesEven those who work have WiFi in areas that they can use generally. Many companies have byod networks | |
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Re: State of the phonessaid by Anon97b40 :Even those who work have WiFi in areas that they can use generally. Some of us are smart enough to realize the exposure that comes with using your employer’s WiFi network, even assuming they allow it, which many do not. Mine doesn’t allow it for most employees. I have access — I’m in IT — but I don’t use it for my personal devices. Why would I? It’s subject to monitoring and I pay Verizon for unlimited data. Only WiFi network I use is the one at home. | |
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Re: State of the phonesIf you absolutely need to use it, then a VPN is an option. ProtonVPN is now live, so, at least that way your employer won't be able to sniff your traffic. | |
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join:2017-03-20
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Tchaika
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2018-Jan-22 10:41 am
Re: State of the phonessaid by ISurfTooMuch:If you absolutely need to use it, then a VPN is an option. ProtonVPN is now live, so, at least that way your employer won't be able to sniff your traffic. Assuming they don't block VPNs. Even so, it's still not my preference. Better to keep separation between work and personal. | |
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|  juilinsandarTexas Gooner
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Take a look at the LG V20. It's the last flagship phone from LG that has a relplaceable battery and expandable storage. It was released in the fall of 2016, the same year as the galaxy s7. It's got 64gb storage, snapdragon 820 and 4gb ram. | |
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join:2013-02-04
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cb14
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2018-Jan-20 4:54 pm
Re: State of the phonessaid by juilinsandar:Take a look at the LG V20. It's the last flagship phone from LG that has a relplaceable battery and expandable storage. It was released in the fall of 2016, the same year as the galaxy s7. It's got 64gb storage, snapdragon 820 and 4gb ram. Yes. Does not have LTE bands 71 and 66, thus very soon to be obsolete, especially if you have TMUS. Short of a legislative action which in current political environment is just not coming, planned obsolescence will be increasingly the fact of life. | |
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| | | C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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C0deZer0
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2018-Jan-20 5:59 pm
Re: State of the phonesObsolete, how? Are you saying TMUS would bar phones that don't have these bands?  | |
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cb14
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2018-Jan-20 9:00 pm
Re: State of the phonesHow? By simply not having the same coverage as the people would have with phones having these bands. | |
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C0deZer0
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2018-Jan-21 11:00 am
Re: State of the phonesCoverage thankfully, wasn't a problem while i was still using the mxpe. The battery first and foremost, was. As well as all the damage created as a result. | |
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| | | juilinsandarTexas Gooner
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The LG V20 is also available on Verizon for those who aren't on T-Mobile. In fact, they're still being sold brand new on Verizons' website,but one can find them used on eBay and other resellers. | |
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2018-Jan-20 1:28 pm
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These breeches are only from one company, TrustWave. If you look at any of the hacks/breaches, every one of those customers are TrustWave customers. See the issue? TrustWave has the problems but everyone still uses them. | |
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Woodstock, IL Netgear CM1200
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sd70mac
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2018-Jan-20 9:50 pm
Re: State of the phonessaid by Anon97b40 :These breeches are only from one company, TrustWave. If you look at any of the hacks/breaches, every one of those customers are TrustWave customers. See the issue? TrustWave has the problems but everyone still uses them. I guess the real question needs to be: why do people keep using TrustWave for payment processing? | |
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Anona41e9
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2018-Jan-19 5:05 pm
I've been...I have only ever used Paypal on Oneplus sites. I have found the credit card system there to be too convoluted. Paypal payments were apparently not affected. | |
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Anon81d64
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2018-Jan-19 5:42 pm
Re: I've been...That might be because you aree typically forwarded to the PayPal site where you have to log in to your account, not directly at Oneplus? So Oneplus isn't saving your PayPal login on their serveers like they do the CC info. | |
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| mmmdonutsanti-media
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said by Anona41e9 :I have only ever used Paypal on Oneplus sites. I have found the credit card system there to be too convoluted. Paypal payments were apparently not affected. That's the way to go. Minimize your CC footprint and use Paypal when possible. If your bank/card issuer supports temporary CC numbers then use those too. Some vendors support Amazon payments even when not buying from the Amazon site. This way you have a few trusted payment options available. | |
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| |  Jim Gurd
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Jim Gurd
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2018-Jan-19 8:26 pm
Re: I've been...said by mmmdonuts:If your bank/card issuer supports temporary CC numbers then use those too. ^^ This ^^ Both Citibank and Bank of America support virtual account numbers. B of A doesn't promote it and the option is hard to find on their credit card website, but once you find it, it works well. I use them as often as possible when ordering anything online. If it get stolen, it's useless to a thief because it can only be used once, or with one merchant if you set it up for multiple purchases. | |
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2018-Jan-19 8:56 pm
Re: I've been...Yep! And here's the link for Citibank » www.cardbenefits.citi.co ··· -NumbersWorks great for me and I never give out my card number out, wish I had it on my other cards. | |
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Jim Gurd
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2018-Jan-20 10:10 am
Re: I've been...said by grod46:Works great for me and I never give out my card number out, wish I had it on my other cards. I can't believe that all card issuers aren't offering this. It's such a great way to prevent card not present fraud. Even those who do, hardly promote its use. | |
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Re: I've been...card numbers arent infinite or random limited pool and the have to be deactivated and put on a inactive list for a set time before they can be used again said by Jim Gurd:said by grod46:Works great for me and I never give out my card number out, wish I had it on my other cards. I can't believe that all card issuers aren't offering this. It's such a great way to prevent card not present fraud. Even those who do, hardly promote its use. | |
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I wish Discover still offered the disposable numbers. I used it all the time. I have two Citi cards also and didn’t know they offer it. Will have to check that out. | |
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said by mmmdonuts:If your bank/card issuer supports temporary CC numbers then use those too. I wish mine did. Most have moved away from that model. I used it all the time when Discover supported it. With a 30 day expiration date it was especially useful when buying something where the vendor would "conveniently" sign you up for automatic renewals that you could cancel anytime (if you remembered). Not a problem if the card expired before the renewal kicked in. They came to you asking to renew it at which point you could decline. And if you ignored them you effectively canceled since they could not bill you. EDIT: Just checked and I see Capital One recently started offering this service through a Chrome browser plugin. I'll have to get it. | |
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sd70mac
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2018-Jan-20 9:53 pm
Re: I've been...» Privacy.com offers disposable virtual credit card numbers to people with accounts from most banks. | |
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David
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2018-Jan-22 12:10 am
Re: I've been...Thank you for that! I am checking that out! | |
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if the app was rerouting keylogs of all input on the site there a good chance you paypal email and password is on the list | |
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| |  trparkyCYA! I'm gone!
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trparky
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2018-Jan-20 7:17 am
Re: I've been...But that's why you enable Two-Factor authentication that requires you to put in a six digit code that's sent to your phone. The username and password means jack if can't get the unique code. | |
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How? You're redirected to Paypal's website. The only time you'd input any email/password is when you login to the oneplus site account. Unless one shares the same credentials between the two sites, the javascript won't pick up your paypal email/pass. | |
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Re: I've been...said by Tokidoki:How? You're redirected to Paypal's website. The only time you'd input any email/password is when you login to the oneplus site account. Unless one shares the same credentials between the two sites, the javascript won't pick up your paypal email/pass. yes i figured thats why the paypal customers werent affected because the site redirects to paypal to login but the javascript can be written to forward the link to a fake paypal site where users then enter thier login credentials but i guess luckily wasnt the case this time this probably wasnt done so it wouldnt be discovered as quickly | |
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2018-Jan-20 9:49 am
Fast responseThat was quick ! It only took few weeks of people flat out telling them the cards they only used on their website were compromised. | |
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DiscoverI never used that phone but Discover Card sent me an email yesterday indicating that my card may have been compromised and they will be sending me a new one. | |
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oneplus spying yet its still purchased?I've been using a nexbit robin that I got new cheap and installed lineage os on it. Who wants to use OnePlus? Did anyone forget about: » www.google.com/search?so ··· XuqLXvjw | |
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Defiance
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2018-Jan-20 3:32 pm
LawsuitSo how much will they get fined for this breach and how much can customers collect from them for a lawsuit for breaching? They must not have been fully PCI complaint somehow either. | |
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Re: LawsuitPCI fines are pretty steep. Then they'll get hit with higher payment processing fees and other banking fees. I don't know how big or healthy One Plus is so this could be a painful nail in their coffin. | |
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