 Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA |
Roundboy
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 9:02 am
*sigh*Ok.. bring on the next P2P software program...
and god help you if you inlcude spyware..
NEXT .... |
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 flarnNo Logic Left
join:2001-02-10
North Richland Hills, TX |
flarn
Member
2002-Mar-14 9:04 am
oh boyWhy am I not suprised. They take something that is awesome and just turn it into garbage. I am just going to stick with my old morpheus.
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 dnoyeBFerrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI |
dnoyeB
Member
2002-Mar-14 9:04 am
AcceptableSmart move. Now if they can absolve themselves of the responsibility of ensuring the anti-piracy software actually works, they will be safe  This puts a new light on the software liability issue doesn't it. Now will it not only make m$ behave more responsibly (yea right) but it will make Morpheus liable. |
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 Aqueronte
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join:2002-02-15
Arecibo, PR |
What to do?Anyone has comment on BearShare? » www.gnutella.com/connect ··· lients/1Or other in this group? |
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 NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA |
NPGMBR
Member
2002-Mar-14 9:26 am
Seems like the days of trading music for free are quickly coming to an end. I personally have not been using any of the programs since Napster and really don't care about the others.
However, what really pisses me off is this crap about making CDs unable to play on digital hardware.
I certainly will not buy CDs that don't. Hopefully enough people will stop buying CDs to send a strong enough message to the music and movie industries. |
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Re: *sigh*unfortunately, I don't think there is another P2P program without spyware, is there? Even limewire has it now from what I hear, and it was open-sourced (at least I heard it was). |
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 ParalyticEverything Hurts.
join:2001-11-12
Seattle, WA |
to Aqueronte
Re: What to do?I've been an infrequent user of Bearshare for years. I used to like it, but the latest version (the only one that will still connect to gnutella) seems to be using anti-piracy crap. I'm not about to rename 32Gb of music, so I tell it not to look at the MP3's and it doesn't self destruct. I expect this is the same sort of thing Morpheus is going with, so don't be too surprised if one day your old version can't find the network... |
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 tke711
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join:2001-03-31
Everywhere |
tke711
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 9:38 am
Going, Going, GoneI had already removed Morpheus from my system after the whole fiasco with Kazaa. I was thinking about putting it back on my system when 2.0 came out, but I guess that won't be the case anymore.
Oh well, there are other programs available and I'm sure there are more to come.
Bye Morpheus, it was nice knowing ya. |
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 kmac1Off in new directions
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join:2001-06-07
Port Neches, TX |
kmac1
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 9:47 am
One Bad thought..... SELLOUTS!!! |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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KrK to NPGMBR
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 10:03 am
to NPGMBR
Copy protection is really pissing me off. Period!Case in point:
Just bought C&C Renegade, brought it home, and installed it.
Installed fine, but won't run at all. Won't load or run.
I suspected *strongly* that it was CD copy protection, and I was right--- it is.
Basically, the game checks the CD. If it is in a CD-R or CD-RW drive, *it refuses to run* even if it is the original silver disc.
So, it's not compatible with my DVD-CD-RW drive (drive bays full). Here's the real kicker. Under our anti-consumer laws, I can't even return it for a refund. So to sum it up:
1) Copy protection makes legitimate copy not work
2) Law forbids refunds on *defective* software
3) Westwood won't even acknowledge the problem, more or less fix it
Result:
4) Consumer is SOL and TOTALLY RIPPED OFF |
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 elias
Premium Member
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL |
elias
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 10:05 am
Neuter KaZaA and Move-ahead!Just go here: » Here's how to disable the Kazaa spywareAnd neuter your KaZaA to disable the spyware. You'll be able to share files really fast, and no worries. Worst case scenario, run older versions of the P2P apps, they'll work just fine with little registry edits: » www.oldversion.com-- Elias |
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Re: *sigh*There is a fix to use Grokster without the spyware |
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I believe WinMX is Spyware free. At least that's what sold me to it in the first place. |
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 DataDocMy avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
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join:2000-05-14
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DataDoc to KrK
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 10:15 am
to KrK
Re: Copy protection is really pissing me off. Period!Take it back to the store and make a fuss if they don't give your money back. If you paid by CC, protest the charge to them.
BTW, what kind of idiot thinks we all pay for a read-only cd player and a R/W just so they can protect their stupid game? |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny Yours
MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI |
No stopping free P2P file sharingMaybe Morpheus didn't learn from the Napster snafu. They are going to incorporate anti-copying technology? To please who, the RIAA? Almost all their customers were people like you and me. They wanted to download music and other stuff off the net for free.
The spyware portion of this angers me even more. Software companies infringing on the rights of others by installing programs that track where you go. That is total BS. This isn't going to stop at just certain applications though. I can see games and other software including it.
The next P2P file sharing application is on the horizon. Someone out there is already coding it and testing it. It won't take long for it to be released. Then, spyware or not, everyone will jump on the bandwagon. In essence, there will be no stopping the file sharing. It will continue to grow. These attempts by the RIAA may stop one program, but another will fall into place. |
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Re: *sigh*said by msnerd:
unfortunately, I don't think there is another P2P program without spyware, is there?
I think it's called ' ftp', and it's been around for about--oh--30 years... |
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 NeoGeo64
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join:2001-09-22
Leesburg, GA |
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Re: No stopping free P2P file sharingMorpheus who?
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My Morpheus classic still works, ya jealous?I have a version of Morpheus classic on my Win98 partition, which I hadn't used in a 3 - 4 of weeks.
I use Windows XP now, and keep the windows 98 only until everything is moved to XP. I hadn't booted into it for 3 - 4 weeks.
Just for fun, I tried Morpheus classic a few days ago.
Guess what? It still works. This means that someone or something must have sent out some code to make sure that Morpheus didn't work anymore. Pretty scary.
Those of you with WinXP or 2K: try to System Restore to a point before the shutdown of Morpheus. It's worth a try. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK Netgear WNDR3700v2
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KrK to DataDoc
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 10:57 am
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Re: Copy protection is really pissing me off. Period!said by datadoc:
Take it back to the store and make a fuss if they don't give your money back. If you paid by CC, protest the charge to them.
BTW, what kind of idiot thinks we all pay for a read-only cd player and a R/W just so they can protect their stupid game?
Yes, that's an option, however, they would be breaking the law if they actually gave me my money back. I could dispute the CC charge, but that penalizes the merchant--- not the software company. Besides.... *I want this game*  My whole squad has it. I'm sure going to express my displeasure to WW tho. And I'm going to use those "Illegal Cyberterrorist Hacks" to make the program I BOUGHT work. Go Crackers, you are our final best hope for Freedom! |
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And this works how?They're going to incorporate anti-copying technology in a system designed specifically for copying? Oh, yeah, that'll work. |
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EasyJust run your old versions until that version is blocked out or whatever. I remember two years ago using a Paint Shop Pro version released in August of 1996. It was a small download, freeware, and satisfied my needs so I don't have to pay $100 for the latest version.
Didn't Napster try filters later on its life? Didn't those fail? |
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join:2002-02-24 |
Daishi7
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 11:33 am
p2p2 apps protocols etc.Morph's current preview edition is based on an open source freeware app called Gnucleus that uses the Gnutella protocol and is not spyware. you can replace morph with it. WinMX is another decent non spyware p2p progie based on the OpenNap protocol. There is one out there named giFT that is based on an open version of the fast track protocol that kazaa currently uses (called openFT). My primary p2p app is currently Gnucleus, with all it's new found attention it's getting a great deal of support, and future versions should offer a great deal of improvement. |
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Aqueronte
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join:2002-02-15
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Re: Copy protection is really pissing me off. Period!said by KrK:
Go Crackers, you are our final best hope for Freedom!
Look thru here. All the answers.
»www.cdrfaq.org/faq.html |
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horsemouth1Please Clarify My CSP
Premium Member
join:2002-03-13
canada |
super NEWSI had the same problem as KrK {I have given up on Westwood]
and now put my cash in super news]funny they had a working copy. |
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 SMCinAZ
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join:2000-11-29
Glendale, AZ |
to Daishi7
Re: p2p2 apps protocols etc.The old version of Morpheus (and the new one) use the slow Gnutella network. Pee-yuuu. The neutered Kazaa is much better. AND...be sure to do the registry edit thing so that you can search for music by it's BITRATE quality that is above 128. |
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 NYR 56
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join:2000-12-05
Smithtown, NY |
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Re: *sigh*said by richb01803:
I think it's called 'ftp', and it's been around for about--oh--30 years...
FTP isnt a P2P service. |
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NYR 56 to KrK
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 3:08 pm
to KrK
Re: Copy protection is really pissing me off. Period!I think you are having a different problem. Renegade runs fine on my cdrw drive and I doubt they have that kind of protection. |
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 ztmikeMark for moderation
Premium Member
join:2001-08-02
La Porte, IN |
ztmike
Premium Member
2002-Mar-14 3:59 pm
*lol*lol @ morpheus takes the blue pill lmao |
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 BSDealityWork Smarter, Not Harder.
join:2001-12-19
Ridgefield, CT
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Re: p2p2 apps protocols etc.No, winMX is /NOT/ based on the opennap protocol, the coders did not follow the protocol and other clients that connect to opennap servers ( teknap, audiognome, napster beta (yes they still exist) gnapter, and lopster ) have a very hard time gettin files off winMX users. The client also needlessly pings the servers which lags them. That's why many opennap networks /BAN/ the client.
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Anon
2002-Mar-14 4:13 pm
spywareless p2p apps Another p2p application that also uses the gnutella network is gnucleus. Its my personal favorite because its open source free and doesn't include any spyware. It's pretty good too. The new preview version of morpheous even appears to be built on gnucleus (look at the source code by clicking source code button on morpheous web site). gnucleus is free and has no ads or spyware. » gnucleus.sourceforge.net/ is its home page |
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