The Sun Sets on CD

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Umm..excuse me...the V in DVD stands for Versatile (as in Digital Versatile Disc-Audio).

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It was originally intended to be Digital Video Disc, but when they realized that it was good for more than just video, they renamed the V to Versatile.

Here you go:

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In Car entertainment from Dolby (tm).

I dunno... starting at around $600 it costs about as much as I think.

said by snotspill:

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were not the pirates, they are. Consider this it probably costs them less than a dollar to make the disc, then to sell it for 16 bucks. Ask yourself who the pirates are now! That is the biggest consumer rape job ever made..

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This is just going to encourage piracy.. let's look at what they're ACTUALLY doing here.

1) Stepping on the feet of people who actually BUY cds.
2) Wasting consumer money on another futile attempt to defend against the inevitable
3) Basically challenging people who pirate shit "Can you crack this?" and guess what, they can crack it--and they will. And all the money you spent on this trash will be down the toilet.

Yeah CD's will never go out. They still sell new albums on Vinyl for Dj's and who ever use's vinyl. Remember 8 track lol. Cd's are here to stay! they should just give up already. If we hear it we will put it on the net.

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I dunno... starting at around $600 it costs about as much as I think.

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Well, I didn't say it was cheap. A good 2 channel car stereo with CD player costs about $200. $600 for a 5.1 system in my car is a good deal, IMO.

There are alot of audiophiles who would easily have more than than $1000 worth of equipment in their cars, even for just a 2 channel system.

OTOH, there are alot of people who are happy with their simple car stereo with cassette, they are not going to get 5.1.

uhh...I have $1500 just in my trunk. No 5.1 though....

Actually, Hayward, it looks like you and Jimboe are in agreement.

like i'm tellin you. Cd r here to stay !

In my last car I had a decent system, with Sony Xplod gear, but now that I am car-less and soon to be buying a new car, I think I'll get 5.1 for the next ride

on the next episode of RIAA Plays the Fool:

RIAA passes legislation through congress to get the ban passed on computer keyboards due to them being the #1 tool of software and digital media copyright "thieves" everywhere.

More idiotic news to come.

Uther

I agree that we are being "raped" with CD pricing. 20/20 did a report years ago about it. CDs are actually CHEAPER than tapes to produce and yet, they cost more. Why?

said by XxLoneWolfxX:

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I agree that we are being "raped" with CD pricing. 20/20 did a report years ago about it. CDs are actually CHEAPER than tapes to produce and yet, they cost more. Why?

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Because its a better medium to buy music on. Tapes wear out. Tapes age, & the sound deteriorates over time. Has anyone here ever had a tape player eat a favorite tape? Has anyone have a CD player destroy a CD?

CD's offer more benefits to the consumer than tapes do. For example, tapes are linear. If I want to jump to track 8 on a cassette, I have to fast forward through tracks 1-7. On a CD, I jump just to track 8.

CDs offer better sound (especially over the life of the medium), more convenience, durability, and a wider choice of playback options than tapes. Supply & demand. Plain & simple. Which is why CDs are the dominant format.

And they're still cheap by historical standards.

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Has anyone have a CD player destroy a CD?

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Yes. Make sure you don't use that player too much, now, because when that servo motor breaks... GRIIIIIND... SCRAAATCH...

Oh, please! Are you trying to tell me you've had numerous CDs destroyed by breaking servo motors on CD players? I've lost over 20 tapes to various tape players in the last 10 years. Zero is the number of destroyed CDs.

I'm not saying it can't happen. Just that its much, much easier to lose a tape than a CD.

Well, you asked, and I answered. I've only had one CD destroyed, and yes, tape players eat tapes regularly.

I don't disagree with your sentiments here. Unfortunatly, (or fortunatly depending on your viewpoint) the music industry as a whole depends on technology for it's survival.

I don't think anyone would argue your point on making music part of our lives. Even those that use the technology can appreciate live vs recorded music.

Most of us really do like to listen to our favorite artists and since it is impossible to create a live music show at any given moment featuring your favorite musician, we are relagated to the radio, tv, cd, cassette or whatever to get our fix.

In order to stop or minimize the tit for tat scenario being played out between the industry and fileswappers, there has to be a comprimise. The industry has basically ignored the consumer and believes that the same approach to marketing and sales of it's products that worked 20 or 30 years ago, will work today. They need to start listening to the consumer and make some changes. Otherwise, this sort of thing is going to continue.

It's hard to say which way this will go. We have DVDs, which are a raging success, which are quickly taking the place of VHS. Back in the '80s, we had a similar thing called laser disc, which failed.

As far as replacing CDs, it just seems like the industry is doing this for the wrong reason. If it's really that much better, I guess I'll grudgingly replace my audio equipment AND my vast music collection AGAIN (there are still a few cassettes I haven't gotten around to replacing with CDs yet.) But if they think this will stop piracy, they're smoking crack.

said by The Antihero:

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It's hard to say which way this will go. We have DVDs, which are a raging success, which are quickly taking the place of VHS.

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Only in the rental market. Hard Drive recorders will replace the home recording side not DVD I don't think. (Other than perhaps as ulitimate storage of "keepers"

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Back in the '80s, we had a similar thing called laser disc, which failed.

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Whole different thing.... VERY expensivive and large media (hold over from the 12" LP I think) due to technology not quite being there yet.(The Laserdisc predates the CD by a few years) Equipment was also stayed rather pricey as it never reached critical mass. (also they were never recordable, and few places rented them)
DVD though are the same physical size and read technology as CD and therefore can be made backward compatible.

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I guess I'll grudgingly replace my audio equipment AND my vast music collection AGAIN

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WHY??? DVD will be backward compatible with CD so where is the need? You'll need a new player, but that is hardly need for replacing all your audio gear. (Or the CD's)

As I said earlier here, I still have lots of vinyl LP's and a turntable I have replaced only handful with CD's if they were real favorites or worn out.