Kerry on Broadband

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Kerry, like Bush, hopes appealing to the broadband have-nots will deliver "upscale swing voters" in the upcoming election.

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And Kerry, like Bush, is reading a script.

Bah.

If Kerry's speech writers are wise, and they are , they will include details like FTTH and speeds of 100mbps synchronous to every house by 2007

I will definitely vote for that!

Until more regulations hit the Bells and cable companies to stop their overpricing for limited service, none of this will work.

PS: Kerry invented broadband to compliment Gore's invention of the internet

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PS: Kerry invented broadband to compliment Gore's invention of the internet

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I was just waiting for somebody to post that!

What matters is this proposal of theirs would foster more competition. All the rhetoric in the world will not do a bit of good without limiting monopolies.

If the utilities have proven anything these past few years it's that they
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lets see the improvements first. we'll compensate the utilities for improvements once they're complete.

I think that they have the wrong idea of what "BROAD" means here.

»the-peoples-patriot.blog ··· pot.com/
That blog needs more pro Bush input...

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That blog needs more pro Bush input...

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That BLOG needs to be more respectful of people’s rights. I do not enjoy sites that decide to resize my IE window without my permission.

As far as the thread topic is concerned I'd much rather see a more grass roots effort at the muni level then yet another Washington mandate. The problem is with the way things work in Washington if this becomes a Federal program it will be co-opted by the Telcos and Cablecos. We will get Fiber to the Premise (FTTP) but the Telcos and Cablecos will get to be the gatekeepers. I don't think that is a good idea.

/Tom

Tom,
Your right "that blog does need more "pro bush". Want to be that part of it?
We agree on how Washington works as well.
Let me know,
David

Tom,
Thanks for telling me of the resizing when you go to my blog. I have found another blog site, »www.webspawner.com/. I wanted to and you post made me get off my, you know what, and find it.
Blogger is owned by google and I real don't like them or the way they do busiess.
Thanks,
D

Not because I think he'll do all the things he promises for broadband internet but because I can't stand the thought of another 4 years of listening to George W. slaughtering speeches.

Why of course everyone on planet earth will vote for Kerry. Didn't he invent broadband?? Oops - my mistake - it was Gore that invented the Internet - I got my losers mixed up!!:D

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Why of course everyone on planet earth will vote for Kerry. Didn't he invent broadband?? Oops - my mistake - it was Gore that invented the Internet - I got my losers mixed up!!:D

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I guess I'll have to keep posting this until the cows come home. The rhetoric is getting old... especially when it's not true.

»Re: Standard Bush MO

Kerry a loser? You are confused.
What did Kerry ever do that even comes close to the things Bush has done wrong?

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Kerry a loser? You are confused.
What did Kerry ever do that even comes close to the things Bush has done wrong?

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Right on brother! Amen to that!

[QUOTE=Netbum What did Kerry ever do that even comes close to the things Bush has done wrong?[/QUOTE]
Try looking at Jim Carey John Kerry's pro-union, anti-consumer, anti-business platform...

Sure, wanting to bring overseas jobs back to America sounds good on the surface, but look at the effects and his motivations behind it:

1. Doing anything to force employers to bring these jobs back to America would create a situation that has them paying more for the same labor. (In reality, since these are mostly union jobs, it would have them paying much more for less efficient labor.)

2. This increase in production costs from manufacturers will lead to an increase in price to wholesalers. The increased prices to wholesalers will lead to increased prices to retailers. This directly translates in higher prices for consumer goods for you and me. Paying more for the same thing is not a good idea. I don't like the idea of unions lining their pockets at my-- and America's-- expense.

3. I don't need to get into all the bad things that will happen due to the inflation predicted in (2) above. Rising interest rates will lead to less large consumer purchases, causing a slowdown in industries such as housing and durable goods manufacturing. This will, of course, cause home values for you and me to drop-- a good thing if you're looking to buy, a bad thing if (like me) you already own. The same amount of money will also buy less-- the general effect is that you and I will essentially have a pay decrease (unless you're getting a larger raise to offset inflation).

4. Faced with inflation and higher labor prices, manufacturing companies will be forced to show less profit. This will very likely lead to a decrease in the dividends they issue (if any) and their stock prices. This directly translates into lower portfolio values for you and me; the net effect is that we're screwed again.

John Kerry doesn't understand the fundamentals of how the economy works. He just likes playing the role of union puppet and espousing plans which (on paper) may sound good but which (in reality) have the potential to cause some serious problems. John Kerry is the typical liberal, pro-union, screw-business, screw-the-middle-class-and-the-rich person that the Democrats have been pushing on America since the beginning of time. I don't want rampant inflation. I don't want more money going to useless social programs. I don't want to lose the tax breaks enacted under Bush (which have benefited the majority of the middle class). I don't want to see my portfolio value decrease. John Kerry will likely cause the majority of these things to occur.

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1. Doing anything to force employers to bring these jobs back to America would create a situation that has them paying more for the same labor. (In reality, since these are mostly union jobs, it would have them paying much more for less efficient labor.)

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Actually no. Most of the jobs going overseas are not union jobs. Sure many of them are non-skilled such as manufacturing but to say it's all about supporting unions is a bit far fetched. You are also forgetting the thousands upon thousands of tech support and software development jobs being taken overseas. Those aren't union by any stretch of the imagination.

The reason these jobs are moving overseas is more about corporations maximizing their numbers to please stock holders than just trying to stay afloat. If the dependency of pleasing those people were put aside for the welfare of the company and its workers you wouldn't have so much overseas outsourcing. Your economic theory might sound feasible but that's not how it would work out. Companies who outsource overseas are competing with companies who don't outsource. That's happing at this very moment. To say cheap labor is an overriding factor in today's economics is ignoring the other factors.

Every person who ever took the Presidential office says deficits are bad. It's money that has to be recouped. Bush Jr. putting us in a multi-trillion dollar deficit right after the budget finally went surplus is just plain bad management no matter how you slice it. You do cite some tax advantages Bush gave to a lot of people but those small benefits outweigh a lot of other decisions that make his term in office a train wreck in my eyes.

Also the policies that hurt the economy today are by large part due to lax financial reporting laws enacted during the Bush Sr. administration. Big companies fudge the numbers to please the stock holder (there they go again with the stock holders), which eventually comes back to bite them. Enron and AOL are two examples. What policies did Clinton actually put into effect that have come back to bite us? I wouldn't try mentioning NAFTA since you already support international outsourcing.

Oh yeah. If you really want to be treated seriously please stop with the Jim Carey/John Kerry rhetoric. Leave that to the propaganda pundits (on both sides) who use sarcasm over logic.

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Jim Carey

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Are you in kindergarten?

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Try looking at John Kerry's pro-union platform

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Yeah, I like it, UNION YES!

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Wanting to bring overseas jobs back to America sounds good on the surface

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And it sounds good everywhere else too.

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1. Doing anything to force employers to bring these jobs back to America would create a situation that has them paying more for the same labor. (In reality, since these are mostly union jobs, it would have them paying much more for less efficient labor.)

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Hmmm, your NOT for the AMERICAN WORKER here, just like Bush.

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2. This increase in production costs from manufacturers will lead to an increase in price to wholesalers. The increased prices to wholesalers will lead to increased prices to retailers. This directly translates in higher prices for consumer goods for you and me. Paying more for the same thing is not a good idea. I don't like the idea of unions lining their pockets at my-- and America's-- expense.

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How long will it take before all the jobs go over seas, and you don't have any money to buy anything? PENNY WISE, DOLLAR FOOLISH my friend!

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3. I don't need to get into all the bad things that will happen due to the inflation predicted in (2) above. Rising interest rates will lead to less large consumer purchases, causing a slowdown in industries such as housing and durable goods manufacturing. This will, of course, cause home values for you and me to drop-- a good thing if you're looking to buy, a bad thing if (like me) you already own. The same amount of money will also buy less-- the general effect is that you and I will essentially have a pay decrease (unless you're getting a larger raise to offset inflation).

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So if all the jobs are over seas, people here in the US will have more money to buy your house, makes sense to me, NOT!

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4. Faced with inflation and higher labor prices, manufacturing companies will be forced to show less profit. This will very likely lead to a decrease in the dividends they issue (if any) and their stock prices. This directly translates into lower portfolio values for you and me; the net effect is that we're screwed again.

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The net effect of four more years of an APPOINTED DICTATOR does equal "that were screwed again". So vote for John Kerry.

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I don't want to see my portfolio value decrease.

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I don't want it to see it decrease either. Under Clinton, we had a great stock market, let's get back to the good old days, elect Kerry President! If you want to live like a republican you better vote democrat!

Well said! Kerry's got my vote too!

Im tired of our boys being killed by the hundreds for Bushes oil. Im tired of millions out of work from Bushes
policies. Im tired of paying 2 dollars a gallon for Bushes gas. I will not tire you liar. cut taxes for the rich.
4 more years of appointed Bush ...stop and think we can't handle 4 more years of Bush. From surplus to billions in det. do the math america. You don't have to love Bush to love America. Send bush back to Texas. vote for Kerry vote for Democracy.

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Im tired of our boys being killed by the hundreds for Bushes oil. Im tired of millions out of work from Bushes policies. Im tired of paying 2 dollars a gallon for Bushes gas.

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Bush's policies haven't had time to truly effect America and our economy, due to several lags that occur with any shift in directions by administrations. What we've seen during this past year (economic growth and recovery) is what can be attributed to Bush. What we saw the first three years can be attributed to three things (in the following order): (1) a typical economic cycle (recessions follow periods of great expansion), (2) certain unexpected events (like 9/11), and (3) policies from the last few years of the Clinton administration.

As for our military being killed, I agree-- that's a bad thing. However, having them over there in the first place was a good decision, and I applaud Bush for it. Hey, we got rid of Saddam Hussein-- even the biggest of idiots can tell you that's a good thing. I guarantee that Al Gore wouldn't have had the guts to do what Bush did.

Oh, yes, and do you realize that John Kerry has supported a $0.50/gallon tax increase on gasoline in the past? If you're tired of $2/gallon for gas, then vote for Kerry. I guarantee gas will no longer cost $2.00/gallon; it will cost more in the range of $2.50/gallon.

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I will not tire you liar. cut taxes for the rich.

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I'm hardly rich but have enjoyed several tax breaks under Bush. Perhaps you should stop blindly buying the crap that Kerry has been slinging in his ads.

Bush has effectively decreased taxes for married couples and families with children-- regardless of whether they are rich, middle class, or poor. That's a good thing-- but that's also part of the tax breaks that Kerry's plans want to take away.

Bush has also created many other ways to decrease taxes. It's just up to you to take advantage of them. Try opening an IRA and contributing up to $3,000 into it-- instant tax break. And the tax break continues every year you contribute to it. (Heck, if you haven't filed your taxes yet, you can still open an IRA and contribute up to $3,000 for the 2003 tax year... Up until April 15.)

And let's not forget the record lows in interest rates that we've seen. In many cases that's better than getting a tax break. During the Bush administration, I refinanced my mortgage twice-- a net result of saving hundreds of dollars per month.

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4 more years of appointed Bush ...

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Appointed? Bush won the election any way you choose to count the ballots from Florida... Unless you want to use the most liberal of methods-- but that would require the use of Madam Cleo to determine what the voters actually intended...

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stop and think we can't handle 4 more years of Bush. From surplus to billions in det.

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Do you mean debt? Perhaps you should stop listening to rhetoric and actually do some thinking for yourself. Our government running a debt is completely different than you or I running a debt. When the government runs a debt it's no big deal-- so long as the majority of that debt is internal (held by people within our country's economy) rather than external (held by people outside of our country's economy).

I'm not the slightest bit worried about adding to our deficit. If Bush hadn't done that when he did, several things would have happened:
(1) Taxes would have been raised. Lower incomes during the recession led to lower overall tax revenue. Even keeping the same level of spending would have made a slight tax increase necessary. You don't want to increase taxes during a recession-- you want to decrease them. Decreasing them gives people more money to spend and helps the economy get jump-started and moving in the right direction again. But that's something that Democrats have failed to realize many times.

(2) We would not have been able to respond to the credible, viable threat that Saddam Hussein posed. There wasn't enough extra money in the military budget to handle current obligations plus fight a war.

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do the math america. You don't have to love Bush to love America. Send bush back to Texas. vote for Kerry vote for Democracy.

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I have done the math. A vote for Jim Carey John Kerry is a vote for inflation. A vote for Kerry is a vote for higher taxes. A vote for Kerry is a vote for weakening America. A vote for Kerry is a vote for someone who simply does not understand how the economy works. A vote for Kerry is a vote for increasing funding to Socialist programs. A vote for Kerry is a vote for weakening Social Security and Medicare. A vote for Kerry is a vote for higher gasoline prices and higher taxes across the board.

If you want to hurt America, impede progress, and simply support a person whose campaign platform is "I'll undo the progress we've made during the past 10 years" then vote for John Kerry.

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Bush's policies haven't had time to truly effect America and our economy

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I really wish this one was true, but Bush has had three years, and done a tremendous amount of damage in a short period of time.

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However, having them over there in the first place was a good decision, and I applaud Bush for it.

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Four words "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION", there aren't any! Bush LIED and our TROOPS DIED!

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tired of $2/gallon for gas

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Yes, I am. Bush is a BIG OIL MAN, why can't he take care of this one? I am disappointed, BIG TEXAN should be able to handle this one with no trouble.

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Bush has effectively decreased taxes

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Bush has effectively increased out NATIONAL DEBT with his BIG WAR TIME SPENDING.

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record lows in interest rates

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An emergency procedure Greenspan had to do to keep the economy afloat. Personally, I like collecting interest on my money in the bank.

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Appointed?

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YES, by the Supreme Court.

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Bush won the election any way you choose to count the ballots from Florida

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Bush lost the general election!

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Do you mean debt?

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Yes, created by BIG TIME WAR SPENDING

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When the government runs a debt it's no big deal

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No big deal?! OMG!

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I'm not the slightest bit worried about adding to our deficit.

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Me neither. Got kids? We'll just pass it on to them. Sound good?

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(1) Taxes would have been raised. Lower incomes during the recession led to lower overall tax revenue. Even keeping the same level of spending would have made a slight tax increase necessary. You don't want to increase taxes during a recession-- you want to decrease them. Decreasing them gives people more money to spend and helps the economy get jump-started and moving in the right direction again.

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I guess if you screw things up bad, you will need to take drastic measures to keep the thing afloat. I remember W's dad once said "VOODOO ECONOMICS" he was right about that.

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(2) We would not have been able to respond to the credible, viable threat that Saddam Hussein posed.

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Where are the WMDs? Bush LIED and our TROOPS DIED!

Live like a Republican, vote DEMOCRAT!

Next week Kerry will say he is against broadband. :D

Well I am just glad he has not come out as the inventor of the internet.

I am sure he would vote for it before he votes against it...

Just as he said about supporting our troops "before he voted against it"........

I would bet he has a plan to raise taxes on Broadband just just like everything else. So get ready...he has got to find some way to tax us more to support all these no work people he wants to support.

Let's just say Kerry is against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against being against... well... he's undecided until he sees what would get him the most votes.

Yeah that is my take on him. I am sure he has scum bag liberal interns surfing BBR just to see what we think...then he tells everyone what they want to hear to get votes.

Well I wouldnt vote for him if he said broadband would be free.

if kerry is a joke then i guess we know what that makes bush dont we??????? all politicians are liars & greedy they just have different names!!!!!! if it will get them elected there in there like swim wear!!!!!!!

You're 100% Correct... No one has any idea what Kerry stands for. All he does is listen for Bush to say something and then he does whatever will get him the most press.

What's even more sad than him being two-faced on everything, is that the Liberals and the Liberal media has stated he changes his mind to much.

Kerry might do that but look what Bush got us more people than we can count killed. and taxes that are soooo low our debt will take 10+ years to pay off at the way he is spending. Next thing you'll see is Bush wants to buy a NEW Airforce One and then wants to rename it after him or some dumb shit.

VOTE KERRY!

PS. BUSH GETS IT..THE US CAN HAVE MY CITIZENSHIP CAUSE I'LL TURN IT OVER!

I wish all of you incompetent socialists would leave the country. You morons keep promising your going to leave… BUT YOU NEVER DO IT. Screwhead liars that you are.
GO ON… PLEASE GET THE HEL_L OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!!!! It will be a better place without you whiny incompetent sorry sacks of worthlessness.

Nobody said i was leaving.

I said i'd turn over my citizenship still means i can live here. just simply have to live in Canada for a short period every few months.

But from the way you should you didnt know that did you? well we see who the dumb ass is around here in this topic.

The only reason you are saying that is because you live in texas with damn bush...have a higher air pollution record than the rest of the cities put together cause your damn ol' lying govnor dropped the pollution standards that way businesses could get away with a lot more than they did.

Everytime this country does get turned around it goes down hill again cause people like you try to run the country that don't know how.

and BUSH WILL NOT get President.

I'm far more educated than you. You’re just an incompetent moron who needs a scapegoat for all your failures. Why don’t you move to Russia where society generally shares your utopian ideology? For me, I’m doing just dandy here in Texas making plenty of money and now providing 37 good paying jobs with great health care plans. I am sure I pay much more in federal taxes than you do.
What the hel_l are you doing to contribute to society? Taking? All liberal/socialist idiots like yourself do is take and SUCK from others.
BTW... Losers like you are nothing but worthless liars. Your ignorant statement that Texas has more pollution than all cities combined is a gross outright lie. I assume you drive an electric car… Right? I assume you don’t use plastics… Right? You hypocrite. You drive a gas powered car and consume resources that were processed utilizing energy.
Get a life you stupid uneducated moron.

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and taxes that are soooo low our debt will take 10+ years to pay off at the way he is spending.

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I would rather have low taxes and run up the national debt than pay higher taxes and be screwed twice (once for the existence of wasteful, useless social programs and once for having less money in my pocket to buy new stuff).

The thing that Democrats don't seem to understand after 200+ years is that people want lower taxes and smaller government-- not socialist programs like welfare and some ludicrous form of national health care. I resent having my hard-earned money go to pay for some lazy idiot to sit on his/her butt and collect a welfare check every month. And I also object to paying their medical expenses.

And please.... Don't wait for Bush to win the election. Do us all a favor and run to Canada now. Or would you go to one of the former Soviet states to protest America like Clinton did during the '60s?

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You're 100% Correct... No one has any idea what Kerry stands for. All he does is listen for Bush to say something and then he does whatever will get him the most press.

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He stands up 100% of the time for what he believes...the problem is he stands up on both sides of almost every issue.

He could further Broadband...but I suspect the ones that already have Broadband will have to pay for those who do not.

If you don't believe me...look at your Phone Bill.

The democrats have been running pollster campaigns for years.

Kerry will just put through a secret tax on your phone bill just like Gore did. Then say sorry there is not enough money so we have to tax you more. Sorry to say but I already pay enough fees and taxes on my phone bill, I don't need another.

This is a man that denounced his military service.

This was a man who had an alliance with the treason queen herself who was famous for befriending the enemy.

This is a man who was the head of the antiwar movement.

This is a man who not only called for, but embraced the idea of men to dodge the draft and move to Canada.

This is a man who called for men to turn their back on their country.

This is a man that called combat murder.

This is a man that now embraces what he once denounced and is now considered a war hero.

This is a man who once called his fellow war veterans baby killers, but is now proud that he himself killed while in combat.

This is a man that is despised by the veterans of foreign wars organization.

This is a man who may become our president?

This as a man that according to the national democratic committee, if he really wants to win, will name Hillary as his running mate.

Kerrys wife owns Heinz 57 Sauce and Thay have most of all there factory's in athere country's Ohio has lost the most jobs in Bush's term so far i would like to see lower gas prices and more civil rights Bush has taken alot of them with all the new acts that are in place some states wont even alow you to oun a router in Bush's term all we have lost was civil rights and we keep on loseing them ide have to say kerry and Bush ain't that good I'm sick of seeing the usual suspect in office Nader would be better then both of them as for broadband ya right !! if we all had all these fat pipes what would we do ? ide be happy with 3000/768 But Waite the cable CO has a Limit did ya know that ? so what dose broadband meen ? nothing if ya have it and cant use it i think it be nice to see the telco drop there prices Thay want 219$ here for 1.54 by 768 but yet want 42 for 1.54 by 256 you guys see a prob there i think we should fix the Broadband we already have Go Nader !! sorry to say that but i think the last gore bush thang realy made ya think of the Lesser evil if ya know what i meen and kerry is a usual suspect if ya know what i meen maybe I'm just ranting and raving but i live in Ohio and i don't see anythang Thay can do to help us here with the jobs lost kerry shows us he is for having jobs over seas look at his wife ok I'm don't some one correct me if I'm wrong

You really should learn to punctuated. I quite reading the moment I noticed any.

Try this one:
It doesn't matter whether I like Kerry or not.
I had decided to vote straight democratic about the time his oil cronies raised gas prices 50 cents a gallon on his inauguration day.
This decision was re-inforced when it became apparent that their goal was to impoverish everyone but executives.
Its too late for me. IT is dead and gone.
Im stuck in a McJob that i wouldn't have blown my nose on if there was a healthy economy and that won't correct without regime change.
I want bush fired and i dont care who -OR WHAT - takes his place.

Bush = Clinton.
Kerry = Dole.
2004 = 1996.
Results = Same.

None of the serious Democratic candidates ran this time around because Bush has too much support. The Dems ran a stiff this time just like the Republicans ran a stiff in 1996.