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Screw that!!!"assuming, of course, that the truck carrying Telkonet's gear makes it"
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Question"The installation process is normally only a matter of a days assuming, of course, that the truck carrying Telkonet's gear makes it from the airport to downtown Baghdad without incident"
So who is providing security? Is the US military going to give a business more protection than it does its own convoys?
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2004-Dec-15 1:30 pm
Re: Questionsaid by runlevelfour:"The installation process is normally only a matter of a days assuming, of course, that the truck carrying Telkonet's gear makes it from the airport to downtown Baghdad without incident" So who is providing security? Is the US military going to give a business more protection than it does its own convoys? Place your bets. Of course it will. The Administration is determined to make Iraq look so good to the rest of the world. Once their Internet is up, you can bet the Administraton will make press releases saying how well Iraq is doing . | |
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2004-Dec-15 4:11 pm
Re: QuestionNice sig. I wish only some of it were true. But ... back on topic: the administration is determined to GTFO of Iraq as soon as it sees an opening. Trust me. | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:21 pm
WTF?Now that is weird...
You mean they actualy have a backbone going into Iraq? w0wzaaaa... | |
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Re: WTF?They were actually streaming their main tv station on the internet up until the war started. | |
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hmmm oookAnd whats the point?
Do they really need it over there? What they need is security and food dammit, not high speed internet access.
WE need Powerline Broadband more then them! | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:28 pm
Re: hmmm oookOutside Information!
Of course this is important, we are trying to turn them into western zombies.
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Re: hmmm oookWestern zombies? We let woman vote, and gasp, we even let women go to school and show their faces in public. We're so horrible. | |
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2004-Dec-15 2:37 pm
Re: hmmm oook(Speaking as they would) | |
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said by davebenham:Western zombies? We let woman vote, and gasp, we even let women go to school and show their faces in public. We're so horrible. *drools* USA USA USA! | |
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just FYI - iraqi women CAN vote and CAN go to school. They are JUDGES and POLITICIANS in power positions. They DO NOT have to wear covering on their head and faces. U're thinking of afganishtan, probably... | |
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Huh?Now how does Baghdad get broadband and I, living in semi-rural PA, cannot?
Dial up is getting to me... | |
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Re: Huh?do they even have computers over there?
Also why do they need broadband anyway, give them dialup. I am sure we can give them 19k modems.
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2004-Dec-16 1:55 am
Re: Huh?Your right. It makes no sense that they are going to get faster internetservice then I am and getting. Send them all our old PCs and Modems and give them dial up and give us the Powerline internet. We deserve it more then they do. We are fighting and dying everyday in Iraq. For what. High speed Internet and porno for people that hate us. Bring our troops Home! | |
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said by mccarltone:Now how does Baghdad get broadband and I, living in semi-rural PA, cannot? Actually, one of the troops I know there told me that Baghdad has had somewhat-usable DSL service for the past few months now. I agree with you totally though, its pretty pathetic how Baghdad got DSL but Verizon won't sell it to us here. Oh well, too bad you don't have Comcast either! | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:45 pm
Re: Huh?said by pnh102:its pretty pathetic how Baghdad got DSL but Verizon won't sell it to us here. Well said. | |
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I can see it now...The US issuing another ultimatum to invade and overthrown the new Iraq government years from now due to terrorist actions against surrounding nations who are complaining about their communications being disrupted by a newly developed WMI (Weapon of Mass Interference).  | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:44 pm
Re: I can see it now...If you gave bush money and your company builds waterfalls, you get to build in Iraq. I am sure if you look at the people who gave bush money you can figure out who is building the backbone. | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:49 pm
Re: I can see it now..."Now how does Baghdad get broadband and I, living in semi-rural PA, cannot?
Dial up is getting to me..."
Do not forget how iraq is getting brand new schools while California has the worst school system in the USA. We have schools with concrete instead of carpets because we have no money. We have never won a war when the government calls it a "War on" Never won the "War on drugs", never won the "War on poverty." We are making more people hate us around the world. Bush wants war becasue the carlile group that bush senior and the bin laden family own part of are making alot of money. Funny how Bin ladens family profits on the war on terror. | |
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2004-Dec-15 3:00 pm
Re: I can see it now...said by bushsux:
"Do not forget how iraq is getting brand new schools while California has the worst school system in the USA. We have schools with concrete instead of carpets because we have no money. And whose fault is that? Democrats were totally running the show there until 2003. You'll be lucky if Arnold is able to undo all the damage that Gray Davis and his girlie-men cronies in the state legislature did to the Golden State. | |
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said by bushsux:
"Now how does Baghdad get broadband and I, living in semi-rural PA, cannot?
Dial up is getting to me..."
Do not forget how iraq is getting brand new schools while California has the worst school system in the USA. We have schools with concrete instead of carpets because we have no money. You can always trade places with us here in CT: we have schools with Olympic sized swimming pools, a stage in the HS auditorium that has a hydrolic-motorized sliding, hideaway orchestra pit, and even a top-rated (in some international observatory registry) stellar observatory! The only problem is that you'll have to give up the price of a brand-new automobile in property taxes every year. Still wanna' trade places with me? | |
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How did BPL in Iraq turn into a Bush bashing session??
Any sore losers in here?? If so......waaaaaaaaa!! | |
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Re: I can see it now...said by Elrond:How did BPL in Iraq turn into a Bush bashing session?? Any sore losers in here?? If so......waaaaaaaaa!! Let's see...a luxury is being installed IN ANOTHER FUCKING COUNTRY while many pieces of infrastructure here are being neglected. It's not a matter of win or lose, but rather of priorities: obviously, the Iraqi people are MORE important than the citizens of the UNITED STATES. If that's Bush bashing, then sign me up. The CEO of this country should care more about his own country first. Oh right, we're talking about Cheney (I mean Bush). | |
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Re: I can see it now...So if an American country decides to do business in another country before taking care of you, that is bad? And then you attack the president out of anger? I don't get it.
The world criticizes us for having too much, then when we try to share with the rest of the world, then we get our hand slapped. Being the lone surviving superpower is a tough job, but to quote Spiderman's dad, 'with great power comes great responsibility.' | |
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2004-Dec-15 11:14 pm
Re: I can see it now...said by davebenham:So if an American country decides to do business in another country before taking care of you, that is bad? And then you attack the president out of anger? I don't get it. The world criticizes us for having too much, then when we try to share with the rest of the world, then we get our hand slapped. Being the lone surviving superpower is a tough job, but to quote Spiderman's dad, 'with great power comes great responsibility.' The problem most people have with this is that they are being FORCED to pay for it with their tax dollars, against their will. I for one am sick and tired of having the IRS put a gun in my face, only to fork over the money I worked hard for, to Iraq and other useles points on Earth. I'd be much happier if a fraction of the money were spent on a few well-placed nukes, to end the problem permanently. We're bleeding to death--death by a thousand cuts!! | |
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2004-Dec-15 11:24 pm
Re: I can see it now...I don't think anywhere in the article it said that US tax dollars were being used to pay for it. It says a company is installing it, not US troops. | |
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said by garagerock:If that's Bush bashing, then sign me up. Sore/Loserman '04! | |
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Re: I can see it now...Wow, the elementary school level grasp of this issue is just confounding. 1. This is the USA. The government's first duty is to us, the citizens of this country who support their fiascoes financially through taxes, NOT to Iraq or anywhere else that "we do business". 2. The point that "sharing" is somehow at work here is ludicrous. We aren't "sharing" the petroleum that's coming out of the ground there with anyone, or the massive government contracts needed to support that pipeline. The topic deals with BPL in Iraq-funded in part by: quote:
The Media Center, a U.S. State Department-sponsored program, is a joint effort of the International Republican Institute and the National Endowment for Democracy
The insinuation is that tax dollars are being used to help deploy a luxury technology in a foreign country. If you don't think this is bad, well, have fun paying back your part of the national debt. At what point in history did we stop caring about our own country? Why is Iraq's problems our problems? | |
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2004-Dec-15 3:55 pm
Re: I can see it now...WTF are you crying about?? Did you even read the article??
Powerline broadband specialist Telkonet has been tapped to provide a powerline network for the Baghdad Media Center in Iraq. The installation is believed to be the first of its type in the war-torn country.
The Media Center, a U.S. State Department-sponsored program, is a joint effort of the International Republican Institute and the National Endowment for Democracy. Telkonet President and CEO Ronald Pickett called powerline broadband a solution to "the significant networking challenges associated with rapidly evolving government and military operations." | |
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said by garagerock:Wow, the elementary school level grasp of this issue is just confounding. The Democratic view on the war has been completely and totally rejected by the American people. However, instead of trying to understand why the American people kicked the Democrats even further to the curb, the Democrats continue to insult the same people from which they need the votes to ever gain power once again. The Democrats are complete losers, their ideals and principles are losers, everything in which they believe and all that they stand for are losers. If you do not like that, then adopt a set of ideas that have a chance of winning at the ballot box. Until then, all Democrats are losers. This is not an insult; it is an indisputable fact that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by last month's election. | |
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said by garagerock:Wow, the elementary school level grasp of this issue is just confounding. 1. This is the USA. The government's first duty is to us, the citizens of this country who support their fiascoes financially through taxes, NOT to Iraq or anywhere else that "we do business". You are correct BUT it depends on how you do it. Before WWII, this country was isolationist. We didn't really care what was going on in the rest of the world and we didn't act when the war in Europe started in 1939. When our friend China got invaded, we told the Japanese we weren't going to sell them any more oil or raw materials. We weren't going to get into the fight but we weren't going to supply Japan either. Pearl Harbor was the end result. said by garagerock:2. The point that "sharing" is somehow at work here is ludicrous. We aren't "sharing" the petroleum that's coming out of the ground there with anyone, or the massive government contracts needed to support that pipeline. The topic deals with BPL in Iraq-funded in part by: quote:
The Media Center, a U.S. State Department-sponsored program, is a joint effort of the International Republican Institute and the National Endowment for Democracy
And? I'd rather build relations with a country then have to watch my back when they feel slighted by us. Look at Germany post WWI. We rebuilt Japan and Germany for a reason. said by garagerock:The insinuation is that tax dollars are being used to help deploy a luxury technology in a foreign country. If you don't think this is bad, well, have fun paying back your part of the national debt. At what point in history did we stop caring about our own country? Why is Iraq's problems our problems? Our own problems are partly the result of poor choices of the population. Drugs are bad but people still make stupid decisions to take them. If it were up to me, after 3 trips to rehab, I would let addicts die in the streets. They don't want help so let them ruin their own lives. | |
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2004-Dec-27 4:15 pm
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the H.O.P.don't try to double back on yourself pnh. You were the same person that was screaming bloody murder when Philly was merely considering the idea of muni wireless, saying the local governments need to worry more about other things like lowering property taxes, reducing welfare, etc. etc. (Of course, VZ or any other corporation writing legislation--no problem!) So it's okay if the govt. funds broadband in a country halfway 'round the world, when we've got folks starving/dying/poor here and there?  Where do you get your crack? Must be good stuff. | |
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said by Elrond:How did BPL in Iraq turn into a Bush bashing session?? ...somehow bashing Mr. Bush just seems so natural - seems obvious to me. | |
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2004-Dec-15 1:48 pm
People's priority'sPeople's priority's are all messed up. Now a days, They can show blood on tv. But, not a boob. I think people are getting less liberal then ever before.
How the media is the old tv shows like. All in the family and Jefferson's and other television shows. Would not even get on the air in today's world.
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2004-Dec-15 2:34 pm
How about..Fixing our own damn internet infrastructure FIRST before a third world countries! | |
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2004-Dec-15 4:04 pm
Intel and reconIf we can offer a lower priced and better service than the local companies then obviously many of the countries users would switch to it (maybe they will be offering it for free). Of those who are switching how many would be potential terrorists or other means of destructive persona? Then of those how many would attempt to use this as a form of low cost international and global communication medium? For example if we were to place eschelon or a similar data filter on that connection, and a terrorist sends an email message to Abdula Blowyurassup in France with the precise time of detonation and location, then we would be able to intercept and intervene. I dont think that a service like BPL is very favored here in the United States but if there is no competition in Iraq, and the people would embrace a new technology then it makes perfect sence to deploy it and "listen" for intelligence. | |
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2004-Dec-15 4:19 pm
Do you fail to see the humor in this?Many small towns in the U.S. do not have broadband, yet Iraq will, courtesy of us. People forced into dialup because there's no alternative for them must be going back and forth between committing homicide or suicide upon reading this. | |
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This is just stupid, Americans should be ashamedWe're spending billions on an illegal war with no clear exit plan. People are starving in that country and in need of basic provisions. Our beloved country is wasting money on a THIRD-RATE, UNPROVEN broadband solution for the extremely wealthy. The U.S. continues to plummet in to debt. How stupid is that? Why don't we focus on basic infrastructure? If they need western brainwashing, let them start with satellite TV. Let them have Fox News, then they can learn to ignore basic logic, stop making simple distinctions between right and wrong, and support policies that do nothing for them. Only then can they become lemmings that post silly conjured up cartoon images.
BPL causes interference. It's unavoidable and therefore not a viable solution. People need to quit looking at BPL and start looking at DSL. That's were there is real progress. Earthlink recently said it sees no market for BPL or even WiMax, that DSL paves the way. | |
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2004-Dec-15 8:41 pm
Military Communications(sarcasm on) Oh, Boy. Let's hope that BPL doesn't interfere with the military HAM Band communications, otherwise we might not be able to restore peace to Iraq... (off)
Seriously. I'm glad that the benefits of this technology can have far reaching benefits even in a country who's data communications has been severely, ahem, blown to shreds. Pardon the Pun. | |
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Reality exceeding fiction???I remember posting this BPL in Iraq story over a year ago as a very bad ***joke***. Check out what Uday looked like after testing this technology: » Re: About time tooAm amazed that this BPL thing is still going. Don't think deploying BPL is going to help cleaning up the mess. Don't think we are doing them a favor either. Still A+ on BPL for the soap entertainment value! | |
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2004-Dec-16 3:35 pm
When will it come HEREYeah that's great that the third world country of Iraq is getting it but WE can't get BPL. What about all the people out of range of DSL. What about people who can't get cable? Power companies are doing a sucky job over here | |
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Dont cry about Ghetto broadband...Its amazing how some of you were critical about NYC plans to offer free internet to low income residents. Now i see where my tax dollars are. Free internet for Iraq. What a shame. This is criminal what this president has done but its going to take several more years for you die hard supporters to wake up. By then we will be offering social sercurity in Iraq. | |
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