Sony PS3: Doom & Gloom

Does XBox 360 even have 1080p games?

Everyone whined about the shortage of 360's and said the PS3 will be better at launch... well it looks like its heading down the same road..

Time will tell.

Ryan

Must be a slow news day. Another PS3? problem memo lol ::Yawn:: When is TiVo 3 coming out?

Wasnt there a post around here saying that 1080p has no real purpose?

yea, after bluring of the image, and anti aliasing you can't tell the diffrence between 1080p and 720p

that and 1080p requires allot of bandwidth, and is locked into using HDMI and all that DHCP crap.

The PS3 having 1080p is not going to be a huge advantage. Even so, 1080p isn't a night and day increase, considering most LCD 1080p capable displays will upconvert th 1080i signal to 1080p anyway it's a mute point.

Technicaly it's better than the XBOX launch, but hardly. People who want a PS3 will either be camping out on launch night or waiting a while.
I think the important thing for Sony is that they have enough for holiday sales.

Nintendo Wii to take marketshare from Sony and Microsoft.
Nintendo won't charge for online gaming access, only for oldskool Nintendo games. This is a PLUS.

Sony won't make the numbers it forecasts.

Game magazines will utter "ultimatte fan-boy praise" for Sony PS3.

Microsoft has secret weapon ready to drop once Sony can get the PS3 out. Will steal thunder. Likely the rev2 of Xbox 360 (smaller 65nm processors, Halo 3, new accessories)

ebay will see thousands of scams of PS3 units and Wii units.

Just ask the developers who write the games: MS and Nintendo have cheaper development kits. Better licensing deals for retail software.

Am I biased against Sony? maybe. But until it's out and I see that all my friends have bought one, an extra controller, online access, and games...then I'll not be so skeptical. FOr now, it is just Sony FanBoy Hype. Long Live SoNy BluRay!

agreed.

i camped for my 360 and found it to do the 3 red lights of doom a week later..

and rumor has it the PS3 is being shipped where 1 or more cores on their 8 core CPU is dead. However the PS3 only requires that 7 cores be operational for it to boot.

Ryan

Thats like saying theres no difference between ... running your desktop @ 1600x1200 vs 1024x768. Duh big difference.

Although for HD, its actually 1920 x 1080 resolution or 1280 x 720.

XBOX360 & PS3 FTL - I'll keep my "higher than 1080p" resolution on my Dell 24" LCD thank you very much.

I really hope Nintendo can grab more market share from Sony and Microsoft, they can use it.

Are you contributing stories????

Why do you feel the need to reply to something you don't find interesting? maybe someone does.

Move On.

I think people are going to be buying 360's and Wii's....then having a hard time justifying a PS3 unless the killer exclusive titles are there, which I've yet to see....

Strange and mundane as it sounds, a big part of this gen competition is getting users to pay absurd amounts for old arcade and Nintendo classics, and I've yet to see Sony focus much on that front....

your comparing two diffrent things, i run my computer at 2048x1536, and can't stand anything under 1600x1200, but remember, a console renders diffrent then a PC does where with a PC you can change the size of text and icons to make them look bigger and smaller in relation to the resolution, where the console allways renders the same scale regardless of resolution.

example being, it's a tv not a monitor, where with a monitor you can easily tell the diffrence between 1024x768 and 1600x1200, with a tv 1080i and 720p basically look the same.

Isn't that the fan-boy calling the fan-boy, Fan-boy????

Wow.

I want to get a wii so bad over ps3 for price. But just can't. That damn controller is gonna be why that system will fail ultimately unless they create an alternative.

there are other controllers for the wii.

geez, I just love PS3 fanboy rationalization.

upconverted 1080i != 1080p

I have looked into this over and over, everything says that both gamecube controllers and wii classic contollers can only be used for classic nintendo games and gamecube games. Not Wii titles.

Take your own advice.

Last I heard, they haven't even started producing units yet.

Is this still the case?

Actually it is: 1080i film-based content can become true 1080p

The following examples refer to content that is encoded in progressive-scan form during recording or transmission—what would be considered "native" progressive signals. However, where 24 fps film-based material is concerned, a 1080i encoded/transmitted stream can become a true "1080p" signal during playback by deinterlacing to re-combine the split field pairs into their original progressive film-scanned frames. Regarding 24 fps film-source material presented in conventional 1080i60 form, the deinterlacing process that achieves this goal is usually referred to as "3-2 pulldown reversal". The importance of this is that, where film-based content is concerned, all 1080-interlaced signals are potentially 1080p signals given the proper deinterlacing. As long as no additional image-degradation steps were applied during signal mastering (such as excessive vertical-pass filtering), the image from a properly deinterlaced film-source 1080i signal and a native-encoded 1080p signal will look exactly the same. As more and more processors and displays come to market able to apply 3-2 pulldown reversal to film-based 1080i60 signals, the amount of available "1080p" content for viewing expands (encompassing film-based 1080i60 feeds from broadcast HD, cable, and satellite).

Source: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

If it's outputting 1080i/60, then it can becomes 1080p/30.

Fight nice, children...

2048x1536 definately below my display native.

you can see the diffrence in the video because you are displaying 1920x1080 on a display above the video resolution.

set your res to 1280x720 and run the first vid, then 1920x1080 and run the second.

and you will see my point.

They started production a week ago in China and Taiwan.

Once the price of the PS3 was announced.. and the time frame for release.. I went and bought a 360. By the time I bought the console, extra controller, rechargeable battery packs, XBOX Lve sub, and 4-5 games.. I dumped 6-700.
Sony PS3 will cost just that for the console.... And with games now hitting $70 a piece (Madden 2007).... It's getting out of hand. My only complaint with the 360 is that there aren't many games geared for family playing or smaller kid play. I'd like to see some games that I can get the kids in on and all of us enjoy a rainy day or winter afternoon (in a couple months).

I had done the camping out for a 360 last year, only for resale (Paid for X-Mas).

You can bet this will have an effect on Sony. They struggle in all other divisions and can;t even make battery packs without massive defects.

Anyone remember when SONY meant something? I think their ability to ride that tide is running out.

Where are finding Madden 07 for $70? Fill us in so we won't shop at a place that is ripping the consumer off. Walmart is around $55 for the same game.

Well, it's been a rough year over at Sony, not just a rough week.

First, Dell announces a massive recall of Sony produced laptop batteries that burst into flames, then Apple announces a similar recall of laptop batteries. Both recalls will cost Sony millions.

Now, no PS3 for the Euro market for the holiday season, and half the units they thought they would have for North America.

Tough times at Sony. It's a shame, they've been one of the best producers of consumer electronics for over 20 years. I have several Sony products I am very happy with (among them, a 55" projection LCD TV).

I may find myself waiting in line to buy a PS3, but you can be it won't be to play it. If they're gonna be that scarce, I'm buying one and keeping it until 2 weeks before Christmas, and making a killing on E-Bay.