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hahaThis will motivate people even more. Since your fines are so low. The RIAA are newbions and should just give up! |
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 thender2Glamour Profession
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thender2
Premium Member
2007-Feb-13 5:51 pm
Just use usenet.Then you don't have to deal with this nonsense.
Or, only share between friends.
Why bother opening yourself to a ton of people you don't know for no benefit when there is a possibility of getting nailed to the wall for it? |
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pmizelll
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Re: hahaIt doesn't get any sleazier than this.
Pay a grand ... do not pass go and you DON'T GO TO JAIL!
Absolutely amazing! This is borderline extortion!! |
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 swintec
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swintec
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2007-Feb-13 5:54 pm
Yea But..Will they accept PayPal? |
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riaastrikesagain
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2007-Feb-13 8:15 pm
said by swintec:Will they accept PayPal? Paypal. The other anti-christ. LOL |
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NOCMan
Premium Member
2007-Feb-13 6:30 pm
Cant waitTill a US court hands the RIAA the largest fine in history for technically searching without a court order. Even the FBI has to get a court order to gather records such as those.
Talk about invasion of privacy. They will get their collective arses handed to them. |
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
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To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your...""...grip Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your
fingers."
That famous Star Wars analogy is appropriate here. This is
only going to alienate the RIAA in the eyes of the consumer
even more. Many ISPs will simply refuse to go along with it;
those that do will find themselves losing customers. And it
will do nothing to deter filesharing.
The RIAA needs to stop seeing p2p users as the enemy and
instead see them as competition or free publicity for their
music. If they were to adopt a model like that of Allofmp3,
they would make a fortune. Instead they cling to their old
pre-digital technology ways of doing business. |
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to swintec
Re: Yea But..Sorry Western Union transfers only!   It used to be $3,500 for extortion a settlement, now its down to $1,000 for a Quickie! Hmm, Maybe next your RIAA settlement will be bidded on Ebay!  |
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Re: To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your..."The RIAA are no longer relevant, what they are trying to do is save their jobs. |
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Targeting downloaders now?I don't do any uploading, but now we can expect to get sued for downloading? |
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 x30n_Not Sure What Color Pill To Call It
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x30n_
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2007-Feb-13 6:46 pm
P2P users = cannon fodderSo what do the ISP's get for the increase of hardware they will need to store 180 days worth of records of all their users, then the time that is needed to sort through all those records when needed?
Oh, to let the ISP's offer 'guilty' (without a trial) p2p users a $1,000 settlement option that goes to the RIAA. They might as well dump their logs and just send the letters like they have been.
Other then that, p2p users are the lowest on the totem in the scene anyways and they are the Usenet users cannon fodder as long as they keep it up. Way to go p2p, keep the heat off of us!!! |
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Re: hahasaid by pmizelll:It doesn't get any sleazier than this. Pay a grand ... do not pass go and you DON'T GO TO JAIL! Absolutely amazing! This is borderline extortion!! Nothing borderline about it at all. This is straight out of protection racket schemes. Instead of breaking legs, they just use other methods. What this appears to be is more like law firms and the **AA's maintaining a cash stream by any means they can muster. Like SLAPP lawsuits, they bank on no real legal challenge being mounted to their tactics. Add to that their generous political contributions which serve to stave off legislation that might nip their extortionary behaviors in the bud. Sooner or later, a Dickey Flatt or Mike Papantonio-type lawyer, expert in the dark and eldritch arts of the class action lawsuit, is gonna rest his or her laser targeting pip on these shysters. Then, the real fun is gonna begin. |
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Re: P2P users = cannon foddersaid by x30n_:So what do the ISP's get for the increase of hardware they will need to store 180 days worth of records of all their users, then the time that is needed to sort through all those records when needed? Immunity. Passing the buck, so to speak. |
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 MizzatWill post for thumbs
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join:2003-05-03
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Mizzat
Premium Member
2007-Feb-13 7:02 pm
It says nothing of a $1000 settlementIt says DISCOUNTS of $1000 or more on settlements, but never says the settlements will BE $10000, or am I missing something. It also says they will be launching a website for the lawsuits at www.p2plawsuits.com later this year....interesting. Quick one stop shop for litigation! |
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 RideRedVista needs a popup blocker for Vista
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join:2005-06-18
USA
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RideRed
Premium Member
2007-Feb-13 7:05 pm
Dump the data dailyThe ISP's should simply stop keeping logs more than 15 days unless they absolutely need them to operate. I don't run an ISP so I know know if logs (more than say a week's worth) are necessary to operate but if they aren't, simply don't keep them. |
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Shack
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2007-Feb-13 7:11 pm
Would this be legal? Sound almost like racketeering? It is at the very least not ethical. |
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Re: hahaActually, since no subpoena was obtained probably to get your info and/or you had no court input, I'd probably sue them for Invasion of Privacy. One can oppose a civil subpoena of records. A criminal subpoena goes unless it is private psychiatric records. A Judge won't approve those. |
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 guitarzan
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to BabyBear
Re: Yea But..Does anybody really expect the new RIAA extortion site to stay up on the web for long.?
That is like putting an un-patched, unprotected XP box on the web, saying in huge letters: Here I am.
IMO, that site will get hacked, infected by a very large botnet zombied DDOS attack in minutes and disappear from the web.
I hope they have the bandwidth to handle the traffic. I wonder if the pirate bay will notice their site...hmmm |
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join:2003-10-29
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to Shack
Re: Would this be legal?No, it will not be without a court order. Knowing these sleezballs, they'll just randomly send out notices to anyone and everyone asking for $1000 because they can't track absolutely everything going on all at once. |
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Call Katheryn at 303-866-0408I love the sample letter. Basically "if you want to find out exactly why you received this letter, call the RIAA". I'm sure the first question the RIAA asks is "What's your name and address?". Then all the idiots out there who actually answer such a question are sunk. I think ISPs could get in trouble for suggesting consumers call the RIAA.
I think everyone on this site should call the legal counsel indicated on the letter: Katheryn Coggon at 303-866-0408 and let her know what you think of these underhanded tactics. |
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getbentnow
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2007-Feb-13 7:59 pm
This is a gift for PiratesI say take every Pirate to court, prosecute them and make them pay the full $10,000 per copy plus court fees and then sentence them to a minimum 1 year in jail. |
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strange?This seems like peanuts to them. Almost not worth the effort. There has to be some other thing brewing... |
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Scifience
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to shellenberg
Re: P2P users = cannon fodderAFAIK, ISPs already have immunity as common carriers. They don't need to join into the RIAA's little racket to get that. |
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Re: Dump the data dailyOn all of my servers, log files are kept for 24 hours, processed into a form that doesn't retain any info on a user's identity for statistical purposes (total unique visits, pageviews, etc.), and then trashed. |
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Re: This is a gift for Piratessaid by getbentnow :
I say take every Pirate to court, prosecute them and make them pay the full $10,000 per copy plus court fees and then sentence them to a minimum 1 year in jail.
I say we take all the retarded anon posters and fine them for stupidity and lock them in jail for a minimum of 2 years. |
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 batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.
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to getbentnow
said by getbentnow :
I say take every Pirate to court, prosecute them and make them pay the full $10,000 per copy plus court fees and then sentence them to a minimum 1 year in jail.
I would go farther; I demand Islamic law be established in the US and their hands be cut off for the first offence and stoning for the second. I am sure you will applaud the SWAT raids on DJ's that mix music. quote:
Make Mix Tapes And The RIAA May Send A SWAT Team To Bust Down Your Door? Apparently a federal SWAT team "assisted" the RIAA in raiding the studio of a DJ in Atlanta.
Now I am sure you will find this a total abuse of police power. quote:
NEW YORK — The five largest music companies and three of the USA's largest music retailers agreed Monday to pay $67.4 million and distribute $75.7 million in CDs to public and non-profit groups to settle a lawsuit led by New York and Florida over alleged price-fixing in the late 1990s.
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 EricthornIt only hurts when I laugh
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to pglowiak7
Re: To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your..."said by pglowiak7:The RIAA are no longer relevant, what they are trying to do is save their jobs. Exactly. The music and movie industries will be just fine without them (MPAA included). The day will come when those groups will just be a handful that put the "Tipper Gore" ratings out, nothing more. And they won't be making millions off of the backs of others... |
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 POBRes Firma Mitescere Nescit
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POB
Premium Member
2007-Feb-13 8:49 pm
Revenue Generation by RacketeeringI can see why the DiaRIAA would go this route - the legal fees alone just to file complaints are indicative of just how much money they're rolling in. If they afford legal counsel to file complaints in all these cases, including internationally, then of course, a quick cost analysis would tell any moron to take the path of least resistance. Just have your legal goon squad create a form letter to snare in all the ignorant n00bs and voila! Pick up a quick, one stop, no fuss, no muss grand. There is a special ring of ice reserved in Dante's hell for these RIAA assholes. I'm thinking the tenth circle under Lucifer himself. |
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Re: To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your..."You happen to see the latest brainy idea they are proposing over on Slashdot and Digg?
Settle out of court for less? What a crock of crap! The only reason they want to do that is they can't win it IN court. |
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