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Comments on news posted 2007-02-13 18:22:13: A leaked letter (pdf via Slashdot) notes how the RIAA is trying to get ISPs to put pressure on illegal file downloaders, in a new plan that would let ISPs offer 'guilty' p2p users a $1,000 settlement option -- provided an ISP holds on to 180 days wor.. ..

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X_Digit
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On another note...

Tell me where to mail the check! Personally, I'd be happy to send $1,000 to download all the pirated, non-DRM, music that I could get my hands on within 180 days (about 6 months). In that time, I'd have about every song ever published & recorded!

Hyperspace71
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RIAA & Money

Has the RIAA lost its mind?

It should be $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000.01
volcomssj48
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Re: RIAA & Money

said by Sircolby450:

I say we take all the retarded anon posters/Hyperspace71 and fine them for stupidity and lock them in jail for a minimum of 2 years.

Hyperspace71
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Re: RIAA & Money

Make that 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 years!
volcomssj48
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Re: RIAA & Money

we should lock you up for that long. good idea
volcomssj48

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PETITION!

BTW everyone sign this petition...
According to the see signatures page, they have 97100 signatures. They need 100000...about 3000 more

»www.eff.org/share/petition/

Hyperspace71
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Deadbeats

I hope the RIAA issues many more lawsuits against all the deadbeats...mainly a bunch of teens that are just like mommy and daddy...people who are the leeches of society!
volcomssj48
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Re: Deadbeats

How would a teen downloading make the parents leeches of society?
The majority of parents don't even know their kid is downloading...
Question, Why are you defending the RIAA anyway?

Hyperspace71
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Re: Deadbeats

They are echoes of the parents’ mentality...people who want a “free lunch”...deadbeats. You know...the apple does not fall far from the tree...

I am not defending the RIAA. The RIAA are the same as the person into illegal files...criminals. It’s just funny to see two types of crooks complain about the other.
jsouth
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Re: Deadbeats

Ahh nothing like a new RIAA/MPAA shill.

Alpine6
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Re: Deadbeats

Ah yes, he must be a "shill" if he disagrees with you. Typical immaturity around here...

He's right, though.

95% of this site seems to be pro-piracy. Whether they have the guts to admit it or not, piracy is illegal. So those complaining about the RIAA (which really does suck, of course) really don't have much of a leg to stand on. Sure they're major jackasses and sometimes get the wrong people, but I bet 95% of the time the people they get DID steal music/softwawre/movies/whatever.

So it really is funny that crooks are bashing crooks. I'm guessing the average age around here is about 16 since few seem to grasp the irony...

Adam

guitarzan
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Re: Deadbeats

said by Alpine6:

but I bet 95% of the time the people they get DID steal music/softwawre/movies/whatever.
Adam
I bet the 95% figure you tossed out and are betting on is speculation. The falsely accused grand mother was counted as part of the 95% figure among others.

If 95% of the people DID steal
music/softwawre/movies/whatever as the RIAA claims. Where is the headlines of these cases going to court? The diaRIAA, PR machine would be in full spin mode, blaring out congrats to patting itself on its back

Why settle out of court, when they could make more money through the courts. Oh, wait its much easier to take the path of extortion. There are lies, damn lies and then there is the diaRIAA.

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Re: Deadbeats

How are you counting the grandmother as part of the 95% of guilty people? I was including people like her in the 5% that were falsely accused.

Looking at your point in another way, if so many of these people are completely innocent where is the mass of court cases taking on the RIAA? If they're sure they're innocent they would go to the courts with the assumption that they'd get their legal fees returned when they won. Why pay them off if you're totally innocent?

No, the reality is that the vast majority of people caught in this are guilty of some sort of illegal activity. One thinking otherwise is either very naive or just ignoring facts because of anti-RIAA or pro-piracy bias.

Adam

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Re: Deadbeats

OH puHlease .....

The vast majority of victims of these extorions can NOT afford a lawyer or any sort of viable legal defense without bankrupting themselves first and having their lives turned completely upsidedown.

The grandmother (and the few others) put up a fight because they had the time and enough resources to bring to bear.

Most everyday people are terrified of the U$ Ju$tice $y$tem and for good reason....

guitarzan
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quote:
Said by Thrudd

The vast majority of victims of these extorions can NOT afford a lawyer or any sort of viable legal defense without bankrupting themselves first and having their lives turned completely upsidedown.
We are finally beginning to see these cases appear, however, Thrudd, has perfectly answered your question.
quote:
Looking at your point in another way, if so many of these people are completely innocent where is the mass of court cases taking on the RIAA?
Bear in mind, these suits are civil suit filings. Meaning the defendant NOT the plaintiff, must offer the burden of proof he/she did not do as was accused.

All the diaRIAA , had as evidence was to tie an IP address to a blank, John Doe (fill in the actual name) paper lawsuit, taking both those guilty and innocent to kangaroo court. Where the diaRIAA offered a "settlement" or pay much more if you can not prove we (the RIAA) are/was wrong in court.

I have no proof, yet I believe the diaRIAA, had a gag order tied to each persons acceptance of extortion.

Could I sue you in civil court & take you to the cleaners.? Yes. Would I actually do so? F**K no.
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said by Hyperspace71:

They are echoes of the parents’ mentality...people who want a “free lunch”...deadbeats. You know...the apple does not fall far from the tree...
And squirrels hide their nuts in the same apple tree.
dialupsux
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Re: Deadbeats

Same tactic DirecTV used to sue people over satellite card programmers.

Glaice
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O Rly?
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said by Hyperspace71:

I hope the RIAA issues many more lawsuits against all the deadbeats...mainly a bunch of teens that are just like mommy and daddy...people who are the leeches of society!
If you live in America you're almost certain to be guilty of something. Title 26 of the U.S. Code is over Eight THOUSAND pages long. (The last time I checked: 2003)

At that rate most "laws" are meaningless. Ya gotta look at them as guidelines. Just because some second rate politico decides to flex some muscle after some third rate corporate thug sends him a check doesn't make it "right."

If I drive 80 mph in a 70 zone it's going to cost me over a hundred bucks. A grand for "stealing" Louie Louie?
What a bargain.

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Q.E.D.

Q.E.D.
robertfl
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Time to boycott the RIAA

Stop buying cds, people! Plain and BLOODY simple.

Rob
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Unless the RIAA change their tactics ignore them

So far they have only gone after the poor and either the poor and elderly or the very poor and young. I can tell you they get the wrong person or persons in the wrong country and they'll do more than just lean on them. They want to see tomorrow and they don't want to see the courthouse. That's all you have to know.
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