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Comments on news posted 2007-07-06 17:09:09: Verizon and Comcast are still fighting over the FCC's decision to grant Verizon a waiver to new rules designed to kick-start CableCARD adoption. Comcast wanted a waiver from the rules and didn't get it. ..

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steelyken
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Plainfield, IN

steelyken

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Sounds Familiar...

"arbitrary," "capricious," "preposterous,..."

Sir, your fly is undone...
underdog58
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join:2006-06-25
Philadelphia, PA

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FCC

I just don't understand why do they keep aiming at cable. Now it just something else to piss off cable customers.

dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29
Mason, OH

dcurrey

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And VOIP isn't POTS.

SrsBsns
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK

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have your cake and eat it to?

"AT&T meanwhile reminds everyone they're exempt because their U-Verse service isn't technically CableTV"

Yet they use immanent domain laws to put the fugly boxes in people's yards without compensation because, they claim they are a utility. (IE the phone company) but technically its for CATV which is not a utility.

Talk about double standards!

ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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Corona, CA

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ColorBASIC

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So what

Verizon had to share their DSL lines with competitors and Comcast didn't seem to mind that too much while the telcos cried like schoolchildren.

DBS, telcos and cable are all 'picked on' and Comcast is still posting record profits. Get over it.
MeKuN
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Eugene, OR

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Re: Sounds Familiar...

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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

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well, they DO have a point

its bullshit that verizon doesnt have to play along like everyone else.

ifarrell
join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC

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Raise Cable Rates?

Oh yes, that's it, the FCC imposes new rules so get your own back by raising Cable Rates.
How bloody childish.
All they are going to do is antagonize the FCC who will just put more restrictions on the Cable Companies.
If the Cable Companies put rates up high enough people will start ditching Cable TV as the crap and drivel that's on there now won't make it worth paying.
I'll stick with OTA TV and anything else I'll get from iTunes or other means.
mrks
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Re: well, they DO have a point

Well cable got the all digatal lineup deadline extended three years (canning analog)

Mactron
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3 years, 11 years, tick tock

"and they're also blasting Verizon for doing nothing the past three years"

Hmmm Comcast has had 11 years...

Poor Comcast, BooHoo.
Joe12345678
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Des Plaines, IL

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Re: Sounds Familiar...

comcrap wants to be locked in there cable box with AD's in the guide and they also want to roll out SDV to force cable card users to there boxes and DRVs

ftthz
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raising rates

will just get me to get uverse when its here...

Rob
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Miami, FL

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LOL

This is too funny.

Comcast is upset.

Verizon received a waiver..

AT&T is exempt.
bogey7806
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Re: have your cake and eat it to?

Eh? You ever read anything about telecommunication engineering? Do you know what the difference between RF overlay and IP?
grandpinaple8
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Re: LOL

Must be the reason why AT&T went with a new (new to massive corporate deployment anyway) technology like IPTV. All the benefits without all the regulation.

imrf
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Re: well, they DO have a point

said by mrks:

Well cable got the all digatal lineup deadline extended three years (canning analog)
That has nothing to do with cable. The analog shut down only deals with broadcasters.

insomniac84
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Re: LOL

Why do you think the AT&T forum is called the funhouse.
grandpinaple8
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LOL when you do a forum search for AT&T nothing comes up. When you do funhouse alot of AT&T comes up. Why is that again.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: raising rates

UVerse is priced in the same area as cable so how do you figure it will be cheaper? You do know that Comcast owns a lot of networks and controls the price on how much AT&T pays per customer? They just raise the rates when their contract comes up for renew. AT&T doesnt pay you don't have TV. Either way Comcast would win.
rid0617
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Re: Raise Cable Rates?

I'm already at that point
jmallory
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Essexville, MI

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I realize that is trendy to hate Comcast here...

...but they do have a point. Technically there is no difference between a traditional cable plant and what Verizon is doing other than terminating the fiber at the home instead of a node on the pole. I don't mind a little government oversight of big businesses that have natural monopolies (or duopolies in a best case scenario), but this is government intervention at its worst. Singling out certain companies and imposing regulations on them while letting other companies skate by giving them an advantage in both equipment and support costs. Frankly AT&T, Verizon, DirecTV, and Dish should be made to seperate the security from the tuning and let everyone compete on equal footing.

And mark my words, no one is going to be busting down the doors at Circuit City, Best Buy, Wal*Mart, etc to spend hundreds of dollars on something most consumers would just assume lease from the provider.

-- Jim

justbits
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Re: have your cake and eat it to?

In Illinois, a bill was pushed through that classifies video service and cable TV as utilities.
»ilga.gov/legislation/bil ··· ionID=51
cableguy619
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Isn't aTV a TV???

Okay so TV service sisnt TV service if you broadcast which ever way you do it to a TV set???????

FCC is a bunch of TARDS!!!!!!

You change the channel to watch a different program hmmmmmmmmmmm go figure, I guess that must be umm TV????

Nwow if it was a dvd and I had to push play to work well that isnt tv thats a fruinting DVD..
fiberguy2
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Hey - to be fair, Cable modem service was ruled an information service while DSL was ruled "internet"... So, on that base, I have to side on AT&T (I think I'm gonnna barf, Lou) in that they are not a "Cable company" or "TV provider"... same goes the other way for VOIP service not being a telephone.
bogey7806
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Re: I realize that is trendy to hate Comcast here...

The problem is AT&T's boxes don't "tune" into the channels. It does an IP stream. Making a cablecard work with that is most likely impossible.
TheMayor
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Verizon is fighting with themselves

"Verizon and Comcast are still fighting over the FCC's decision to grant Verizon a waiver"

Maddogmike
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Re: Sounds Familiar...

I wonder which outta the two providers is paying of the special interest groups , and the FCC
Maddogmike

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Re: LOL

lol, well for one the cell service is for kids, they hans out little toys to play with
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Re: FCC

Way to go FCC!!! Shmucks
Ope
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I just got to say it!

Wish I had 11 year to get ready for #$%&!!!
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