 intellerSociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
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must already be an HBO subscriberStrike 1 2 and 3 you're out!
YOU FAILED IT! |
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HBO has ALWAYS been anti-newtechI remember the battles in the 80's to be able to subscribe to HBO via big satellite dishes.
Not all that unusual..HBO is Time-Warner. |
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A trial here, a trial there, we'll make more money somewhereSo, in TX, they will be testing the new "over 5Gb - charge by the GB" internet plans, justified by the "network abusers" downloading too much. And elsewhere they'll be giving users the new option to download up to 600 HBO movies a month.
Nothing like charging more to cure a problem you created. |
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
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to inteller
Re: must already be an HBO subscriberYep, flawed logic on this one. Companies like HBO who are stuck in the 80's will die a slow death at this rate. Internet is here to stay. It's not going anywhere. Adapt, or be run over. |
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Re: A trial here, a trial there, we'll make more money somewhereIn the future, they will get to double dip. 1) for being a HBO subscriber and 2) for going over your monthly download cap. How convenient. Does HBO have anything worthwhile? Besides Entourage & Curb Your Enthusiasm, is it really worth the extra money for the "new" release movies? I can think of better things to do with my time and money. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC |
axus
Member
2008-Jan-21 9:49 am
HBO on broadbandheh, how can someone complain about them poisoning torrents... they are allowed to make derivative works and share them.
They should stick to their current formula, of attracting premium dollars from people who define themselves by the quality of television they watch. Those people aren't going to use their broadband service, except for a few that spend a lot of time on business trips.
NBC has a pretty good player, anyone can watch it.. I wish they had more commercials though, and not the same one 5 times. |
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Time Warner CultureDick Parsons and his minions are so lost that they have become the company that time forgot. We'll see if Bewkes is any better but I wouldn't count on it. The corporate culture is one of 1980's based subscriptions or advertising and they don't know how to think beyond that old dying model. Maybe they should take a queue from companies like Apple and how they applied a halo effect into their strategy but that's not likely. |
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Re: must already be an HBO subscriberthat and you must have cable internet. man how much did TWC pay HBO on that one. |
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Rick5
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join:2001-02-06 |
to Pictor Guy
Re: Time Warner Culturesaid by Pictor Guy:Dick Parsons and his minions are so lost that they have become the company that time forgot. You appear to be a bit lost yourself. Dick Parsons resigned his CEO position last year. » cbs3.com/business/dick.p ··· 576.html |
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 badtrip
Premium Member
join:2004-03-20 |
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Re: A trial here, a trial there, we'll make more money somewheresaid by wolverine_99:Besides Entourage & Curb Your Enthusiasm, is it really worth the extra money for the "new" release movies? Entourage isn't as good as it used to be but Curb is getting better (last season was good). Flight of the Conchords is why I'm keeping my HBO subscription. However, I think it's crazy that Time Warner is doing this considering they are implementing 40GB DL caps at the same time. They must really want to see this fail... |
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join:2005-12-17
New York, NY |
to Rick5
Re: Time Warner CultureHehe, if you happened to look at his next sentence, it said "We'll see if Bewkes is any better..." |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Miami, FL |
to inteller
Re: must already be an HBO subscriberSo you think that HBO shouldn't charge for their content, when they've successfully demonstrated that enough people find enough value in it to pay the price they ask? I do think that it's silly that they have no means for satellite subscribers to access the service, and that they require that you use the cable company's Internet service, if you're using cable. I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with access control. After all, HBO subscribers don't get let in on some secret handshake.  |
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moonpuppy (banned)
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD |
moonpuppy (banned)
Member
2008-Jan-21 10:39 am
Make the DVR illegal........and watch cable companies lose a ton of money. I know many people that time shift HBO stuff. If they could no longer do this, why even have a DVR? Why pay $12/month for something that can record everything?
This will not end well. |
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Re: must already be an HBO subscribersaid by wierdo:So you think that HBO shouldn't charge for their content, when they've successfully demonstrated that enough people find enough value in it to pay the price they ask? I do think that it's silly that they have no means for satellite subscribers to access the service, and that they require that you use the cable company's Internet service, if you're using cable. I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with access control. After all, HBO subscribers don't get let in on some secret handshake. And what are Cox customers supposed to do? Cox is looking at implementing caps and Comcast has super secret caps on their service. A few movies and some Netflix here and there and there goes your bill straight up. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA |
Poisoned?If there was anything that I really wanted, it can be obtained without the worry of poisoning.  HBO On Broadband. Must be a subscriber - this may apply for either transport. Must have HBO on Cable - LOL! Why would I want it on Broadband then? Comcast has Channel 1 VOD. Anything they got, anytime I want it. When/if this does expand, sure aint going to go over too well in Comcast-land.  What about all the Sat people? Screw them?  |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny Yours
MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI |
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Re: HBO has ALWAYS been anti-newtechsaid by Scoot_NJ:I remember the battles in the 80's to be able to subscribe to HBO via big satellite dishes. Not all that unusual..HBO is Time-Warner. Name me one company that has been open to this kind of technology. I can't think of one in the TV programming business. |
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Re: Poisoned?Milwaukee or Green Bay? Ummmm, ok, that just, oh that's right, it's HBO!  |
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Re: HBO has ALWAYS been anti-newtechOnce the VideoCipher II came into play, TONS of programers were interested in selling subscriptions. The much lamented Sunday Ticket due to it's only being available via DirecTV currently got it's start on C-Band Sat. The NFL embraced us with open arms!!!
At one point, C-Band subscriptions made the market a virtual cable system with more subscribers than any single cable operator. |
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Re: A trial here, a trial there, we'll make more money somewhereHave you seen any hard facts from TW about the 40Gb cap? The only thing I've seen is a speculation based on canadian telco plan, where it ranged from 5Gb up depending on the connection speed. |
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Re: must already be an HBO subscriberThe only reason I have HBO is for Real Time with Bill Mahr. If they outlaw or take away my ability to record the show and watch it later, I'd just drop them completely. Screw HBO! |
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amungus
Premium Member
join:2004-11-26
America |
amungus
Premium Member
2008-Jan-21 12:52 pm
backwardsSounds like a convoluted step backwards.
Here's how online video should work...
-unlimited viewing, which Netflix finally did.
-access from anywhere that has a fast enough connection
-no drm, because it's a waste of time for both parties and excludes Mac and/or Linux thereby reducing potential viewers
-charge a flat rate if you must. who cares what ISP you have.
This is just silly. So, I have HBO and Cox internet service, but I'll be darned if I couldn't go to a friend's house, a hotel, wherever - who DOESN'T have either Cox, or HBO, and still be able to use this... Where's the incentive to even care about this???
I must say, I'm rather impressed with the quality of video from Netflix. It buffers on occasion, but if/when they increase their streaming selection, it is going to flat out rock.
Heck, I might even cancel HBO at that point. |
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI |
to Nightfall
Re: HBO has ALWAYS been anti-newtechsaid by Nightfall:Name me one company that has been open to this kind of technology. I can't think of one in the TV programming business. Vongo. Vongo is owned by Starz. I thought Starz was owned by a cable co consortium. |
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88615298 (banned)
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness |
88615298 (banned)
Member
2008-Jan-21 1:24 pm
Give customers what they wantPeople are willing to give companies like these their money if they would only listen. The NFL is the same way.
See baseball and hockey will allow me to watch their games on my computer. Maybe I don't have a TV or I'm just not willing to fork over $170 for Extra innings or Center Ice. So they charge mess less because of the lesser quality but they stil make money from me.
Charter charges like $13 for HBO. Sorry I'm never going to pay that. Charge me $5 for HBO broadband and offer me the same stuff I can get on cable maybe I'll pay that. It's better have a customer than not. |
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI |
jtel
Member
2008-Jan-21 2:44 pm
IronicHow ironic that TimeWarner is testing pay per gb plans while at the same time pushing bandwidth intensive services like this. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Miami, FL |
to moonpuppy
Re: must already be an HBO subscribersaid by moonpuppy:And what are Cox customers supposed to do? Cox is looking at implementing caps I'll believe it when I see it. They have had "caps" for years, but they've never been enforced except against the most egregious of bandwidth hogs. (I know a few people who probably deserved it but were never hassled) |
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Well, if they didn't use the Cable providers internet, then how would HBO know you were a customer? If I was providing a premium service, I wouldn't just "take your word for it". The arrangement is there so they can pull the content the minute you say "I'm done with HBO". If you had a national "come to us with anyones service", then you'd have lots of people getting free HBO because nobody would tell the vendor the bill is no longer being paid... |
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Re: A trial here, a trial there, we'll make more money somewhereDidnt you know that anything DL'd from Time Warner doesnt count against the caps? |
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Re: IronicThe irony is that Time Warner has lead you to believe it is ironic. Understand that anything that is 'sponsored by' or 'brought to you by' or 'owned by' Time Warner isnt going to count against your cap.
EDIT: Ok, sorry to confuse. This is my prediction. It only makes sense that TW would reward you for DL'ing their content versus the other guys. Hence, no penalty against the cap. |
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jtel
join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI |
jtel
Member
2008-Jan-21 4:54 pm
said by rkrocha: Understand that anything that is 'sponsored by' or 'brought to you by' or 'owned by' Time Warner isnt going to count against your cap. Where does it say that? The caps are just now being tested. |
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moonpuppy (banned)
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD |
to wierdo
Re: must already be an HBO subscriber |
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