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Mr Anon
Anon
2004-Apr-29 4:12 pm
Remeber this when...Remember you dislikes and your un-approval of this when you go vote. Remember that the ELECTED officials are the ones who hastily put this into law and that they have gone against what this country stands for and what their citizens say. This should have never made it into law and the persons(s) that suggested this should have been evaluated and watched themselves. This does nothing to stop terrorists but goes lengths to terrorize citizens. |
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hear hear
write your congress people and vote in November |
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shit
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to Mr Anon
I hope they get rid of it soon,if bush is reelected I am moving Canada,hey I already have a place picked out,just in case. |
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 OutOfMemopenSUSE 11.4
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OutOfMem
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2004-Apr-29 4:24 pm
said by shit:
I hope they get rid of it soon,if bush is reelected I am moving Canada,hey I already have a place picked out,just in case.
You guys crack me up. Grow up already.  |
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to shit
America was created to get rid of the taxes the British had installed.
TODAY, we are taxed 10 fold and NO ONE cares? Do most people have blinders on to what is happening to our rights and freedoms?
I wish HISTORY was taught is school! |
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said by daniyel:
America was created to get rid of the taxes the British had installed.
TODAY, we are taxed 10 fold and NO ONE cares? Do most people have blinders on to what is happening to our rights and freedoms?
I wish HISTORY was taught is school!
You should double check your history. It was not the taxes themselves, but that the people who were taxed had no representation in goverment. "No taxation without representation" BTW inflation since then is much more than 10 fold anyway. |
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to Mr Anon
Well, lessee... I can vote for a guy who SUPPORTS the USA PATRIOT act... or I can vote for a guy who VOTED FOR the USA PATRIOT act.
That LaRouche ticket is looking better all the time... and he ain't getting any saner. |
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Yes, most of our reps voted for the Patriot act. However the bush admin has pushed (and likely will push again) for the Patriot Act II, and for the Patriot Act I to be extended.
That's why writing to them to tell them you don't support it is important (and yes they do listen), and voting out the current administration is important to get this country back on the right track. |
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Bush showed his support by "pushing" it. Kerry showed his support by voting for it. What's the difference? They both supported it. said by ihaddsl:
voting out the current administration is important to get this country back on the right track.
The only way "to get this country back on the right track" is to completely vote out everyone, and then wait for all the federal judges to die, resign, or be impeached by the new Congress. Why do we all complain about the government, only to turn around and re-elect the same people? |
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said by dosbubba:
Bush showed his support by "pushing" it.
Kerry showed his support by voting for it.
What's the difference? They both supported it.
The difference is our Prez wants to extend the patriot act, that was pushed through congress through fear and false patriotism. We need to vote him out for pushing these things as president. Yes Kerry voted for it, but he does not support extending it or voting in the PA II. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but it's only because so many americans don't participate that we have the sad state of politics that we have today. And no it doesn't require voting everybody out, it just requires that we the votes take our representatives to task by expressing our views to them via writing and or voting. |
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pcscdma
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2004-Apr-29 7:29 pm
The difference is that Kerry 'flip-flopped' on the USA PATRIOT act and is now against it. Bush didn't flip-flop on it.
So Kerry was for it and turned against it, and Bush continues to support and even wants to extend legislation that takes away your rights.
Flip-flopping doesn't seem that bad now, does it? It looks quite damn good, now that I think of it. |
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to Mr Anon
Rights?!! What rights?
They could find all the info they ever wanted about you without the Patriot Act. |
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said by pcscdma:
The difference is that Kerry 'flip-flopped' on the USA PATRIOT act and is now against it. Bush didn't flip-flop on it.
It's called changing your mind. I find it surprising how many times the term flip flop comes up. Let me guess... you never changed your mind. Anyway when the bill was put to a vote there really wasn't a lot of time to actually look through it and discuss the ramifications. Plus there was a big "get with the program" mentality concerning anything related to 9/11. Lots of congressmen voted for the Patriot Act. A lot of those same people are against it now. Isn't it great how a politician can look at something they thought was a good thing only to find it wasn't AND be able to change their mind about it? |
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said by nokken:
Rights?!! What rights?
They could find all the info they ever wanted about you without the Patriot Act.
So, you agree that the PATRIOT ACT is totally unnecessary, and should be allowed to sunset as originally promised in the enabling legislation? I sure hope so, because contrary to the original promise to let it expire, BUSH-CHENEY-ASHCROFT want to extend it, and enlarge the scope and application of these fascist tools in PATRIOT ACT II. |
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said by SRFireside:
It's called changing your mind. I find it surprising how many times the term flip flop comes up. Let me guess... you never changed your mind.
I know that. It just seems that flip-flop is a cool word nowadays. I was just using it to stress a point that changing your mind from something bad to something good is superior than supporting something bad for eternity. I might as well throw something in here on Clinton too. After the Monica thing he said that what he did was wrong. What the heck is is up with that? Who in their right mind would turn down a BJ? |
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I'd rather have a president with a fickle pickle than an itchy trigger finger any day.  |
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Orwell 1984 to daniyel
Anon
2004-Apr-29 11:10 pm
to daniyel
They will start teaching history again, as soon as they are finished rewriting it. |
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 hpguruCurb Your Dogma
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to Mr Anon
Anyone have a list of incumbents who voted for the patRIOT ACT? Hell does anyone have a list of incumbent republicans? |
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janos to ihaddsl
Anon
2004-Apr-30 11:33 am
to ihaddsl
No taxation without representation isn't technically accurate. U.S. officials were used to doing their own thing after the period of saluatory neglect on the part of the British. If they had received representation, this country would probably still be a British territory as they would still be easily outvoted in any of the legal houses of the time. "No taxation ..." sounds really good though. |
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macmouse
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to nokken
Well, yes and no.
They could find out whatever info they wanted, just not legally (without a court order)
Which means, some checks and balance vs none-at-all. Or, allowing them to blatantly abuse VS having to carefully think/work it out. |
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 jap
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to pcscdma
said by pcscdma:
said by SRFireside:
he said that what he did was wrong. What the heck is is up with that? Who in their right mind would turn down a BJ?
Geez, man - the answer is in every bad movie & sitcom: the guy who wants to get one again someday from his wife! |
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 museheart
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said by ihaddsl:
hear hear
write your congress people and vote in November
Oh, like we have a real choice.  |
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to ihaddsl
"No taxation without representation"
And you call what we now have representation?
Some peoples memories are short. |
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