UMTech join:2004-10-18 Miami, FL |
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2004-Nov-15 10:43 pm
Just thought of something?Hypothetically, can one person using Bellsouth dsl use another person's PPPoE login information to use their account? Implied is that both people are on dsl enabled lines. If so, can another person using a dsl company different from Bellsouth, that lives in the same area code, be able to use my bellsouth pppoe account info to use my dsl?  Or is the PPPoE account details locked to the number that its supposed to be used on?  |
· actions · 2004-Nov-15 10:43 pm · (locked) |
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A person with a BellSouth account would be able to logon on a different BellSouth DSL line than the one their username is assigned to.
As for someone with DSL from a different company being able to authenticate on the line...I doubt that would work, but I don't know for sure. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-15 10:50 pm · (locked) |
Cod2 join:2000-07-05 Kernersville, NC |
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I'm in Alabama, and I've used my login @ my friend's BellSouth DSL connection in Atlanta and it worked fine. We were trying to troubleshoot his connection and just for the hell of it, tried it and it worked. So to answer your question, it appears to work. Atleast it did in my case. Keep in mind that we both have both BellSouth Fast Access accounts. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-15 10:51 pm · (locked) |
jtudor MVM join:2002-12-07 Morganton, NC |
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Yes it will work, but I found out the hard way there is one problem.
Lightning destroyed my brother in laws modem, so I took a spare Westell over to get him back online. The Lightning had also destroyed his NIC. I made the mistake of leaving the modem connected (it had my login information in RAM). While waiting on tech support to get him a new MB. my DSL at home stopped working.
After some troubleshooting I discovered that my loaner at his house was logging in, and kicking my other login at home offline.
When I had him disconnect the loaner, my account at home started working again.
The moral of th story is that your login information will work at any BellSouth DSL line, but your username can only be logged in (on DSL) in one place at a time. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 1:07 am · (locked) |
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2004-Nov-16 10:41 am
I guess that means that two or even three people on the same Bell South system could share an account if they worked out their on/off times? |
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jtudor MVM join:2002-12-07 Morganton, NC |
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2004-Nov-16 11:25 am
I pretty much doubt that, because I don't think you would get the DSL signal put on more than one line for only one paying account. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 11:25 am · (locked) |
Zoder join:2002-04-16 Miami, FL |
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2004-Nov-16 11:29 am
Curious. I thought I read here in the past that Lite customers are provisioned at Ultra speeds but are throttled down at the port? So would a Lite customer who logged in with an Ultra customers info receive Ultra speeds? |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 11:29 am · (locked) |
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jtudor is half correct, only one logon can be actually logged on the radius at one time IF it is a static account (which most today are) however if it is still dynamic than you can have more than one location logged on with the same PPPoE info. As far as using another service in the BS area code the answer is absolutely not, the radius info is bellsouth proprietary, it would not work. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 11:36 am · (locked) |
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said by Zoder:Curious. I thought I read here in the past that Lite customers are provisioned at Ultra speeds but are throttled down at the port? So would a Lite customer who logged in with an Ultra customers info receive Ultra speeds? Errr..that is not correct info as far as I know. Lite customers are provisioned at lite speeds. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 11:40 am · (locked) |
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When BS first rolled out DSL Lite, it was possible to have DSL Lite but logon with an Ultra acct name and receive ultra speeds, but now it is all done through line provisioning so it will not work anymore. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 12:00 pm · (locked) |
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2004-Nov-16 12:06 pm
So the other person who uses another dsl provider can't get use my Bellsouth account? Even if the other provider is selling from Covad and Covad getting it from Bellsouth?  |
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2004-Nov-16 12:14 pm
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The vast majority of BSFA have dynamic IPs and only a small minority have static IPs. |
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Covad has their own DSLAMs and ATM network, so it's completely separate from Bellsouth except for the copper phone line.
Where this might work is between Bellsouth partner ISPs where PPP and BBG are in use. Bellsouth's ATM network is used to route the traffic to the respective ISPs and the domain portion of the login info is used form the ATM endpoint. So, for example, a PPP/BBG Earthink customer might be able to log in via a PPP/BBG Bellsouth customer's line and vice versa. |
· actions · 2004-Nov-16 12:55 pm · (locked) |
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2004-Nov-16 3:42 pm
It didn't work when I had Earthlink and the line was provisioned by Bellsouth. I borrowed my neighbor's Westell to see what my line stats were and it would not let me login with their user info which was stored in the modem. |
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2004-Nov-16 3:47 pm
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You would also have to change the VPI/VCI. |
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2004-Nov-16 3:53 pm
said by Knowofnothing:
You would also have to change the VPI/VCI. it will still not work even if you change it to 0/35 or whatever they happen to be using. unless you're paying customer to a specific ISP(s), you can't logon to any ISP other than your own. |
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2004-Nov-16 4:02 pm
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I was going on the assumption that both users were on BBG and both had active accounts with differnt ISPs as mentioned by graysonf. |
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2004-Nov-17 9:42 am
said by Knowofnothing:
I was going on the assumption that both users were on BBG and both had active accounts with differnt ISPs as mentioned by graysonf. it'd still not work. unless they both have accounts from the same ISPs. then it becomes pointless. why would anyone use someone else's acct when you already have your own. i'm not even sure BS is letting anyone have two or more ISPs on one DSL line at this point. so however you look at this, it's not gonna work. plus, modem vpi/vci setting is local to DSLAM or remote DSLAM. it's just there to let your modem sync up w/ the dslam. it doesn't really have anything to do with login. keep trying... |
· actions · 2004-Nov-17 9:42 am · (locked) |