Topic 'Re: ugh' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083306 en Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:18:47 EDT Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:18:47 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12135779 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12135779 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:10:31 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12134153 hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_ ··· 14A1.doc The way I read it.. Nextel does not have to give up on 800mhz entirely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12134153 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:03:11 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12127879 I work with all Wireless carriers at various levels and we get the best service from Verizon because we have the most phones with them- but Nextel CS sucks more than even the old Cingular (Cell One) ever did. I like Sprint better than any of the others- It works for me in most places and I like it well enough to tolerate the gaps in coverage.
I won't say I hate Nextel- but I think Nextel is the winner here because now they inherit a massive consumer base which they have been having a hard time aquiring- they are the small businessman's friend- and mostly blue collar stuff, too.
Oh well, at least it will be interesting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12127879 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:58:53 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119642 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119642 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:34:36 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119389 said by seadoor:

Correction: Nextel isn't looking for the spectrum, And with the CDMA technology comes the spectrum. As I said, there is a large chunk of spectrum that Sprint owns and does not plan on ever using, Nextel wants it, merging with them is cheaper than buying it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119389 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:20 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119343
On the other note...I'm so sick of everyone saying "X sucks and Y is better". If "X" works for you, go with them!, but realize I may drive different streets or live in a different community than you and it may suck for me... Coverage is largely a personal experience...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12119343 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:09:39 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12117914 --
4 More years and we won't have a country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12117914 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:33:20 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12117903
Current options in Nothern VA, AT&T/Cingular, Cingular, T-Mobil when I do a search here.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12109083 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:57:51 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12107635 quote:
Sprint has always been the best and always will.

Wow. That's the first time I've heard that...!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12107635 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:23:52 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12104799
Isn't most of Verizon's system at 800 (or 900) MHz? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12104799 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:23:28 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12098730 said by bigcat777:

what kind of phones do you people have the free ones they GIVE away? You get what you pay for I thought sprints service was bad until I bought my Sanyo 8100(Greatest phone ever made)which sounds like a land line phone it's so clear. It's just so sweet Never a dropped call Never a static call Always get every single call to and from the phone, not to mention the fact that my signal strength Stays full no matter where I'm at.(Even in Walmart).
I know what you mean, I recently got the Sanyo 8200 (In September) and I always get good signal, clear calls and the only time I get dropped calls is in the basement of my apt. complex.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12098730 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:03:57 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12098212
If you try celling, err, selling your IDEN phone now, there is likely still a market. Some months from now, unless it is a multiband phone that will also accomodate the higher frequencies, it will be a paperweight.

Good luck,
Patrick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12098212 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:55:56 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12097568 Sprint has better wireless coverage than Nextel.
Sprint has better high speed wireless data than Nextel.
Sprint and Nextel both have a ton of MMDS spectrum. Sprint and MCI bought up most of the country. Nextel bought all of MCI's MMDS spectrum, when MCI went bankrupt. The merger would mean that they would own a large majority of the MMDS spectrum in the United States.
Nextel is has a test trial in North Carolina with a company called Flarion.
Cingular's high speed wireless data, well it just sucks.
Verizon has EVDO in some markets. There are test reports that show the SEVERE latency in Verizon's EVDO markets. Que buckets 3 minutes deep. Don't look for Verizon to provide quality high speed data service. They don't and can't. They don't understand the technology. This has already been demonstrated first hand. But, don't take my word for it, you can test it yourself and you'll see that Verizon EVDO is a latency ridden, poorly designed network.
Flarion is an awesome company. 2.8mbs at 80 miles an hour, all the way on a sector edge.
I CHALLENGE ANYONE ON THIS FORUM TO SHOW ME A BETTER HIGH SPEED WIRELESS DATA SERVICE THAN FLARION.
You simply can't.
Cingular will start losing some of it's AT&T wireless customers that it aquired from the AT&T Wireless purchase, as soon as AT&T's NEW wireless network is up and running. Customer loyalty will run its course.
The merger of these two companies will create the best wireless high speed data service available. Their combined ARPU's will generate enough money to invest in the new technologies.
But then again, what do I know?

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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12095811 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:13:26 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12095785 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12095785 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:05:13 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12094675 For mountainous terrain, 850 is the only choice. PCS simply won't work here, or even on the highway. When I had Sprint for the 14-day trial, even on the major interstates, Sprint was dropping my calls between every cell tower (about every 3-4 minutes at 65mph). And 1/2 mile from the interstate, there is no service at all. And PCS won't work inside buildings because 1900MHz doesn't penetrate masonry very well.

It looks like I'll not be using a cell phone after this contract I'm on is up for renewal.
This is one case where 'going forward' with technology is in fact 'going backward'--I won't be able to use my cell phone at home anymore. It also looks like the $300 I paid for each of my i90c phones will become trash and a total loss of investment, reducing the resale value of the phones to zero.
Oh well, at least I'll save $94/month between the wife's phone and mine. Maybe we'll go back to Trackfones and just using them for emergencies on roaming service.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12094675 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:50:32 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12094369
But yes my credit is not the greatest.
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They have been slow making the move because the other cellphone companies have insisted that Nextel buy their new spectrum at an FCC auction just like everyone else did. Nextel finally worked out a swap from 800 to 1900 Mhz with the FCC. That means that Nextel will need all new transceivers at their towers and that all of their subscribers will need new phones anyway.

The higher frequencies that Nextel will end up on will more easily carry the high-speed (3G) internet services and television that are coming. Sprint just announced a few days ago that they are buying $3Billion in new equipment to help make 3G (third generation) happen. One informative article is at:
»www.internetnews.com/inf ··· /3446571

Patrick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12093737 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:34:19 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12093397 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12093397 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 20:51:45 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12092756 said by xrobertcmx:

Do you have TDMA or GSM, the TDMA was garbage I had TDMA. The thing with AT&T wireless was that they were particularly crappy in the Philadelphia area, but they were great in Central PA.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12092450 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:49:57 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12091492 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12091492 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:48:11 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12091125 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12091125 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:04:55 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12090835 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12090835 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:29:01 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12088660 said by xrobertcmx:

Everywhere I've gone in NY, DE, PA, MD, VA, FL, and Nc no problems. But I have lost service in WV. I used to have AT&T wireless... every time I exited an Interstate highway my phone crapped out.
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Hey Fast Eddie... you're next!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12088660 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:37:43 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087886 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087886 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:15:42 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087876 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087876 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:12:45 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087155 Everywhere I've gone in NY, DE, PA, MD, VA, FL, and Nc no problems. But I have lost service in WV.
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4 More years and we won't have a country.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12087155 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:56:22 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086726 Of the four cellular companies that serve my area, Nextel was the only one that had a signal and that allowed me to use my phone. This merger is sad news.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086726 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:46:40 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086712
As far as the merger goes, I will probably cancel service if anything at all gets remotely bad. I do not like Sprint at all and see this move as very bad for Nextel. I have incredible service with Nextel and can get a signal in remote places absolutely nobody else in my family can get with T-Mobile or Verizon or Sprint right now (In the middle of the lakes at Coldwater/Quincy, MI). I never get any dropped calls with Nextel, and the walkie-talkie feature is very useful as well. The only bad side to Nextel phones is how they make ticking noises in unshielded nearby speakers when you aren't even using them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086712 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:43:40 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086638 said by TheMetrix:

I've been wanting to switch to Nextel for the past year now but haven't been able to afford the cost of having to put a deposit for the first year of service.
Nextel wants a deposit for service? When I activated service 5 years ago it wasn't needed, and my parent just activated Nextel service 3 months ago and they weren't required to put a deposit down. Do you have bad credit? I know of others who just activated service and didn't need deposits either and some of them had fair credit. Are you going to the Nextel retails stores? Like the on right over by you on 26 Mile.

I don't think much will be done to the network for quite a few years. They will probably leave the network alone for 5 or so years, then slowly start getting customers to switch over to the new network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086638 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:29:04 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12086219
When I first joined service was great and has progressively gotten worse. I live right next to a cell tower that Sprint uses and I constantly get dropped calls.

I've been wanting to switch to Nextel for the past year now but haven't been able to afford the cost of having to put a deposit for the first year of service.

If or when the two do merge will sprint customers be forced to purchase new Nextel phones or will they be given to current Sprint customers as part of the merger? Only time will tell, I guess.
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I hate sprint... they NEVER took the customer's side when considering dropped calls, billing mistakes, and poor customer service (did I mention bad equipment).. that was years ago, maybe they improved somewhat, maybe not.. Nextel at least tries to do right by the customer, sometimes... not all the time.. I wish there were more towers in the Nassau/Suffolk areas of Li, NY though... service is spotty here.. but good when traveling to the city.

If nextel goes into the crapper because of sprint, guess what?!?!?! Verizon will go KA-CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They better consider this merger VERY CAREFULLY!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12085493 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:03:46 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12084415 --
Ama me fideliter. Fidem meam noto decorde totaliter et ex mente tota sum presentialiter absens in remota]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12084415 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:50:13 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12084259 said by Smokey:

I thought Nextel was going GSM as part of the new spectrum swap?
good question? I thought they just wanted to whore-up spectrum to later resell? If they really intended to move their users to 1.9ghz why are they putting up some serious dime to move public service throughout the country. I really don't know all of these details pertaining to the band acquisition.. all I know is they have to pay to cities, states, and counties.

Maybe they will keep iden on 800mhz, and had plans all along to use different GSM or CDMA on 1.9ghz. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12084259 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:33:05 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083955 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083955 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:57:05 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083827 said by xirian:


well they better continue to use cdma. I Love sprint. I hate nextel. Even the ringing goes lower and distorted when calling a nextel subscriber. Why are hey even merging when their technology is different?
agreed.. nextel is neat for people like plumbers, electricians, carpenters...etc. but there phone service is pretty bad to call, atleast around here. "please standby while we attempt to reach the nextel subscriber".

not to mention the iden coverage map is seriously lacking compared to CDMA, TDMA, or GSM. and no roaming agreements to analog providers, same problem that keeps me away from GSM.

I am not ready to give up CDMA yet. and not rich enough for verizon.

In the past few years I have seen sprint get better and nextel become worse.

Lets not even get into the interference and extortion nextel has practiced on our public service agencies.;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083827 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:42:25 EDT Re: ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083574 said by xirian:

I Love sprint. I hate nextel.I'm the opposite. I love my Nextel service, and have for the last 5 years, and I completely hate the Sprint service that I just dropped a few months ago.

Even the ringing goes lower and distorted when calling a nextel subscriber.
That can happen with any service, it has nothing to do with Nextel. I have heard the same thing when call from my landline to all the phone companies at one time or another. It is related to how busy a tower is at any given time.

Why are hey even merging when their technology is different?
Nextel wants the spectrum that Sprint has had for a long time who has no plans on using.

Personally I think it will great in the long run. It will bring better customer support to Sprint and a better network for Nextel.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-ugh-12083574 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:14:37 EDT ugh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/ugh-12083306 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/ugh-12083306 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:47:06 EDT