Topic 'Shaw/3web' in forum 'Shaw' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Shaw3web-12235939 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:27:56 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:27:56 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12781785 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12781785 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:03:26 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12777219 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12777219 Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:12:13 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12776857 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12776857 Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:17:14 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12776612 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12776612 Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:44:41 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12772073
Just FYI.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12772073 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:43:03 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12760817 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12760817 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:57:03 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12760338 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12760338 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:08:26 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755910 said by brownstein:

No offence taken wes, but no I am not lying.Does saying that he didn't lie prove to you that he didn't lie, wes? From reading brownstein's posts here and over at the RedFlagDeals forum, I just don't see any red flags (excuse the cheap pun). If he were lying, I would have to applaud him for the most elaborate setup to a prank that seemingly only he would get. Btw, I'm expecting a gratuity thru my paypal account, brownstein :)

said by TELUS:

"HS Service Termination: 3web reserves the right in its sole discretion to disconnect any HS User where the configuration or usage by that HS User is identified as causing network problems of any kind or where the HS User otherwise makes improper use of the HS Service. A cancellation fee will be levied for disconnection of the HS Service."
Don't you love how all the ISPs seem to have a catch-all "nuclear option" in their AUPs, which they can use as a last resort no matter what the case is?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755910 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:24:31 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755730 said by classical:

said by brownstein:

just helpin the community by posting my findings, or is this info of no use to anybody?
I don't know about anybody else, but it's useful info to me--so thanks, brownstein. All you did was make an off-handed comment at the end of your post, and for whatever reason, it required a reply from reymus.
Thanks classical, I appreciate it!
»Re: Fibre Optics in Vancouver
reymus, the guy in the above link makes a comment about shaw and others being a monopoly, I didn't see a response from you there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755730 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:53:48 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755721 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755721 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:50:38 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755615 said by wesleyw9:

just so that you all know, 3web's AUP says nothing about excessive bw use, or a 30gb limit.

so, either
a) brownstein is lying (a *lot* of ppl on dslreports do)
b) 3web is enforcing a policy that is not in their AUP (which would make it unenforcable i think)

but yea, i don't know which it is, so no offense brownstein if you are telling the truth
"HS Users shall not be permitted to utilize any type of telephone service over the said HS Service including, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, Voice Over Internet Protocol ("VOIP"). HS Users shall not use their HS Service to access any third parties' device, computer, CPE, server, etc. without obtaining the third parties' prior express written consent to do so."

"HS Service Termination: 3web reserves the right in its sole discretion to disconnect any HS User where the configuration or usage by that HS User is identified as causing network problems of any kind or where the HS User otherwise makes improper use of the HS Service. A cancellation fee will be levied for disconnection of the HS Service."

Try at least 250GB with 3web first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755615 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:49:42 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755430
so, either
a) brownstein is lying (a *lot* of ppl on dslreports do)
b) 3web is enforcing a policy that is not in their AUP (which would make it unenforcable i think)

but yea, i don't know which it is, so no offense brownstein if you are telling the truth]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755430 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:21:34 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755298 said by brownstein:

just helpin the community by posting my findings, or is this info of no use to anybody?
I don't know about anybody else, but it's useful info to me--so thanks, brownstein. All you did was make an off-handed comment at the end of your post, and for whatever reason, it required a reply from reymus.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755298 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:40:26 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755240
Edit: I just read some of your posts and you seem to be a strong Shaw advocate. Just so you know, I have been a shaw customer for about 6 maybe 7 yrs now, and have actually loved their service and have had no problems up until I got into newsgroups and they started sending my bandwidth emails. You are right they must be a successful company, I dont know all the details about them paying to install the infrastructure and laying all the cable and what not but I do know that it is kind of annoying to have paid so much money to them over the years and then have to leave because they cannot accomodate heavy downloaders like myself with some kind of heavy user plan ( I wouldnt mind paying a bit more for say 100 gigs a month or so), it just doesnt seem right to me (my opinion). On the other hand, 3web is worse as they state right on their webpage that there is no download limits, then they turn around and tell me it is 30 gigs a month (unofficially), which I figured would happen but I wanted to test them right away and see if they had the ability to enforce such rules (which they do seem to have), so now I guess I will switch back to shaw and try to stay within 50 on their extreme, which I doubt will happen, so I will probably switch back to 3web, by that time their platinum will be out so I may get 50 with them too, at which time I will test their limits again. I believe that us heavy users are an inevitability that ISP's are going to have to face, it will just take time. Until which, I guess I will just keep swapping between the two.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12755240 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:26:36 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12754672 I will stick with them for another month or so and then switch back to the monopoly that is shaw I guess.

That's funny.

You essentially said that you would switch back to a monopoly from the competition of the monopoly....

I'm just curious how Shaw is a monopoly. Yes, they have the largest customer base for internet. No, that does not make them a monopoly, that makes them successful. There are lots of other broadband companies out there, they just aren't as successful as Shaw.

Shaw installed their own lines, costing them hundreds of millions of dollars, and I actually have a problem with the idea of the CRTC forcing Shaw/Rogers/etc. to open those lines to companies that don't have to bother installing those lines. I think that gives an unfair business advantage to the resellers.

But saying that Shaw is a monopoly is a little on the ignorant side, don't you think?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12754672 Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:38:06 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12743669 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12743669 Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:19:48 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12742968
If you live in the GVRD area, you likely will be throttled. Anywhere else and you're fine with 3web.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12742968 Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:57:48 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12741690 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12741690 Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:36:49 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12733925 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12733925 Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:52:55 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12720092 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12720092 Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:03:24 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12719981
when i first got them, i left bittorent open 24/7 for a month with 45KB up the whole time. Thats a total of 120gb upload alone, nevermind how much i downloaded.

So yea, 3web definetly does *NOT* harrass you about bw at this time in vancouver.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12719981 Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:59:44 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12717628 said by classical:

said by st7860
so, it looks like that 3web might be a good option, $25/mo. but thats only if you sign up for their long distance package.
Their LD plans look pretty good, though.

I think hearing about how many gigs people have transferred with 3Web is ultimately moot because it really depends on how active your node is. If there are many users on your node, if it slows down during peak hours, if anybody calls in to complain--if all of that is true and you can still download a lot, then maybe 3Web truly doesn't care about how much you download.
yes, exactly. their anytime rate to call canada/usa is excellent. telus's closest option is $25/mo for 1000 minutes but only during evenings and weekends. 3web is something like 4 cents anytime of the day.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12717628 Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:55:03 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12716916 said by st7860
so, it looks like that 3web might be a good option, $25/mo. but thats only if you sign up for their long distance package.Their LD plans look pretty good, though.

I think hearing about how many gigs people have transferred with 3Web is ultimately moot because it really depends on how active your node is. If there are many users on your node, if it slows down during peak hours, if anybody calls in to complain--if all of that is true and you can still download a lot, then maybe 3Web truly doesn't care about how much you download.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12716916 Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:11:25 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12716463 said by beecue:

ive done 54.6gigs so far in feb ... i hope i dont get a call from 3web which would be from shaw
wow. 54 gigs on a regualar shaw plan without extreme-i(which 3web is copying) WILL get you a call from the bandwidth police. If you were paying shaw $10/mo for their extreme option, they wont call you till around 70 gigs or so.

so, it looks like that 3web might be a good option, $25/mo. but thats only if you sign up for their long distance package.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12716463 Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:01:40 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706986 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706986 Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:33:51 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706977
even shaw isnt silly enough to say that. they might say something like "unlimited access" or "always on" but both of those statements dont necessarily mean unlimited GB. but now.. when 3web says "unlimited downloads". how could they explain it away , it has to mean GB , right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706977 Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:32:44 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706917 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12706917 Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:25:22 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12704997 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12704997 Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:30:08 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12704771 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12704771 Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:56:48 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12640776 forums.redflagdeals.com/ ··· ght=3web
Thought you guys may find this of interest, it is a thread I started at RFD about 3web, I have been downloading like a mofo since I signed up a few weeks ago to test it out, will let you know how it goes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12640776 Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:09:39 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12640647 said by st7860:

wet what??
It happens with other companies as well.

As long as you adhere to the AUP/TOS, then it's okay.

But of course, the AUP/TOS can change on the fly.

What does Shaw say when someone transfers too much?
"You're deteriorating the network performance, and that's against the AUP/TOS."

He said, she said?

Their email and their webchat hasn't yielded any information.

And people with 3web really haven't used a lot of bandwidth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12640647 Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:26:56 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12639558 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12639558 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:16:22 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12637181 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12637181 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:41 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12637162 said by guest1234:

Hey, when you sign up for 3web, they tell you to buy the 3web software, what is that? is it downloadable? cause its kind of waste of money if its just some sort of internet browsing software.

by the way, if you guys could email me if you are using 3web in vancouver... Cause when I called 3web, even though its unlimited on www.canadianisp.com they said they still follows the Shaw cable guidelines as 3web shares or borrows shaw cable's internet.
on the sign up window on www.3web.ca it says under the Questions and Answers section: "Is there a download limit" and it says "no there is no download limit"

»www.3web.ca/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12637162 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:45:08 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12631060 www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/E ··· 4-69.htm
Note the service charges at the bottom of the document. All drop replacements are free and will be provided by the cableco. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12631060 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:47:08 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12606256
Shaw will charge them once 3web passes their allotted bandwidth quota. Shaw would probably would not care if 3web users suck bandwidth because Shaw will just bill more. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12606256 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:02:01 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12580694 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12580694 Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:24:53 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12578168 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12578168 Fri, 04 Feb 2005 07:31:47 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12568283
by the way, if you guys could email me if you are using 3web in vancouver... Cause when I called 3web, even though its unlimited on www.canadianisp.com they said they still follows the Shaw cable guidelines as 3web shares or borrows shaw cable's internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12568283 Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:18:38 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12568276 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12568276 Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:17:02 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12562766
I rep internet services and one of the services I sell is ADSL through Uniserve (no, I'm not trolling, this is relevant to the story). Originally I was going to resell Uniserve but after wrangling with them to get what I considered a do-able price, I decided that repping for them was a better solution. For the record, I use 'repping' to mean I simply refer people to them and those people then become Uniserve customers, not mine.

Anyhow, if I had become a reseller then it would have been my decision whether to allow servers or not. Uniserve wouldn't care, they would just bill me for the bandwidth my customers used. As it turns out Uniserve allows servers so this is a bad example, but you get the point.

Things like porn, warez, hate sites, etc usually do transfer down the AUP from provider to reseller because ultimately it is the provider who ends up hosting this stuff and there are legalities involved with it. However, things like bandwidth, support, billing, etc may or may not be handed down to the reseller. It all depends on what deal the reseller has with the provider.

So, just because Shaw has caps or server rules or whatever doesn't necessarily mean that these are passed down to 3Web. Maybe they were and 3Web needs to enforce them; maybe they weren't but 3Web thinks they sound good so they're enforcing the same limits..shrug...who knows?
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best speed test is shaws at 2608 down, 480 up.

worst is 631 down, 313 up to test server in England.

all speeds are kbps]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12556583 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:19:39 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12431139 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12431139 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:17:57 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12363622
Any inputs?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12363622 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:31:44 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12347787 said by hesty:

quote:
Is there any truth to the story that you have to have their software running on *every* computer that you want to use your connection on?


No, it's not true. I'm using 3Web and I can't use their software even if I want to, as I am using Linux.
Cool. I was worried about that because:

1. I'm behind a router and
2. 2 of my 4 computers run Linux :)

Thanks
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Is there any truth to the story that you have to have their software running on *every* computer that you want to use your connection on?


No, it's not true. I'm using 3Web and I can't use their software even if I want to, as I am using Linux.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12347274 Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:53:54 EDT Re: Shaw/3web http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Shaw3web-12346147
This board from Calgary:

»www.casemp.com/integramo ··· ghlight=

has a user who says that is the case.
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