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<title>Topic &#x27;AYHJAR anyone?&#x27; in forum &#x27;Overclocking / Modding&#x27; - dslreports.com</title>
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<description><![CDATA[shambler posted : bkhorn,try using the crucial memory ONLY and installing the<br>first DIMM in the LAST slot(DIMM 1 in a 2 slot board,&<br>DIMM 3 in a 4 slot board.I read somewhere that some mother-<br>board manufacturers recommend this setup with DDR memory.<br>Good Luck!!<br><br>Ron]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : <B><SMALL>and another crazed overclocker is born...stock just ain't fast enough</SMALL></B>;)<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:56:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DavGMac posted : Yes, I followed directions carefully and used a Credit card edge to smooth a thin layer on top of the chip and my temps look good .... Im at work right now so will have to try the 9.5 and fsb 142 this afternoon ... will check with you then okay .... <br><br>thanks !  :)<br><small>--<br>EPOX 8K7A, AMD 1.33 GHz Tbird, CoolerMaster 6131c w/HSF, 512 Mb DDR, 64 MB 3DGeforce 2 MX400 Video, 20Gb IBM 7200 UATA100 HD, DVD, Scanner, HP 970 CXI</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : there are "many" factors leading to a bsod . you have all good hardware . could be a usb port tripping ya up or the scanner . or your clock . back her down to 9.5 clock and set the fsb at 142 save to load (F10) and tell us what happens .<br>i guess now you have Artic Silver II on the cpu . just a thin layer ,right ?? to much is as bad as not having it . can't effectively transfer heat with "to" much <br><I>[text was edited by author 2001-08-27 08:16:48]</I><br><br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-27 08:17:12]</i><br>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DavGMac posted : I'd like an answer to that question too ... I think I bought my 1.33 GHz chip that didnt say the that online when I bought it ... I cant remember if it was the OEM or not .. So could that be why I cant OC very well, or keep hitting BSOD's ... after booting to W98SE. <br><small>--<br>EPOX 8K7A, AMD 1.33 GHz Tbird, CoolerMaster 6131c w/HSF, 512 Mb DDR, 64 MB 3DGeforce 2 MX400 Video, 20Gb IBM 7200 UATA100 HD, DVD, Scanner, HP 970 CXI</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : don't know how the 365vp will fair with the large pals ?<br>i know the big sanyo denki fan screwed with my 5v current badly . off it went . gotta be power with yours . that big axia should be at 10.5x142 with no problem long as you can cool it . i'm a true believer in cosair 2400 300mhz ddr. nice stuff . &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.memman.com/category.asp?catid=4" >www.memman.com/category. &middot;&middot;&middot; catid=4</A><br>with ramsink , does make a big different :D<br>BTW: nice mark post !! you bested every stock 133a mobo known to man . ya sweet lil proggie snagit :D<br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-27 01:56:11]</i>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:53:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : you ain't crazy (i don't think hehe) me 1.4 is the same way.<br>shes unlocked as unlocked can be but will not take mutilplier pass 10.5 ?? one thing i hate is a chip with a attitude :( i clocked her down to 10 and gave her 145fsb . she was ok . upped vcore 1.85 fsb to 150 posted ok . up to 160 fail :( suckie chip  no fun . 157 posted stable with sandra burn 10x . all but mem burn . but my temps suck !! even put on the big sanyo denki 80mm . dam thing is loud. a 1C diff to me ain't good enough to equal the noise . took off the 462 and mounted the old alpha pep66t ghetto mod . it worked as well . but i don't like 36idle and 48/49 full load . righteous case ven you know . sys temp 27c mobo 26c <br>idle 36 hmmmm ??? i know its alot of watts etc but i had more fun with me 1.2axia . posted just as good marks . amd couldn't product anything larger with this die . we would melt !!<br><small>--<br>GigaByte 7DXR power <br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:45:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : It seems to me that the system only has problems when the CPU is asked to run faster then default. So far running the CPU at or below default speed with higher then default FSB is very stable.  <br><br>I have tried both Auto Vcc and manual setting (at and above default 1.75v to max) with little or not difference being the result.<br><br>I thought my NIC would cause problem at a FSB of 140 and up but it didnt.  Ill see if I can duplicate that 9x144 because it just seems to good to be true.  It was the last setting I tried and I dont recall how well I tested stability.  If I can hit 9x150 or even 8.5x150 I would consider that to be a good sign for the AD11.<br><br>Right now I suspect the (AXIA, Y) CPU, the PSU and the RAM as possible culprits but not the mobo.  Ill swap out each component in turn and that should be good enough to isolate the problem.    <br><br>I just ordered another stick of 256 MB Crucial PC2100 RAM but I might opt to get some cosair as well.<br><br>Now I just need to order the Enermax EG-365P-VE.  I am sure it will be good enough for my next CPU but I have to question how well it will fair with a 2GIG and up Athlon.   ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:40:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : OK I finally ran some SiS MEM benches and Snagit. Very nice program that Snagit Thanks again Kat and Tencz51.  <br><br>Here it is in all it default FSB glory.<br><br>In QuakeIII I get something like 131 FPS at normal settings.  In Unreal tournament I see about 120 FPS. But in STV Elite Force I only see at best 99.0 FPS, which I dont quite get because STVEF uses the QuakeIII engine.  I guess the Raven mod is what accounts for the difference.<!-- 1343169  HASH(0x9669798)   --><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=96% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=MIDDLE COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/1343169?c=20993&ret=64urlL2ZvcnVtL3IxMjMxODA4LnhtbA"><IMG class="apic" id="p15963" BORDER=0 TITLE="73528 bytes" SRC="/r0/download/20993.thumb600~9ea9f41007dffc6d01314ae7fe0a5321/SISmem.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:04:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : kat remember what important...that is the essence and basis of learning...and learning leads to knowledge...someone always knows more<br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR><SMALL>memory is nothing more than the long-term electrical storage of minor impulses with great magnitude</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>kat pay attention to ten, oct, and others that <B>know</B> :)<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:47:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : kat how the heck did you remember all that ?? if i want a special chip i'll use them . but ya there rma policy sucks .<br>buy with 1 month warranty ! ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:19:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : my "wife's" rig (ad11) does not like fsb=138 much either<br>but it sure like 140 :)<br><br>have you tried - <br>vcc to autodetect (yes - 686b calculated vcc will show 1.81 - but should be ok)<br>mem timings to auto -<br>9x140 <br>that's where I start then up to 10x140 very nice and then push the mem timings, and after clean run through, reset vcc back to manual at 1.75 - she run good.  at 10.5x140 1.75 vcc post but shaky boot, so up goes the vcc and ok.<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:16:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : hey long time ago I post about atacom...guy say they no good on reseller rating...rma policy hard...I say old socket 7 mb no light...replace no rma...ask nice most-times get nice...<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:06:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : 10x138 = 1380MHz cranky, lockups and reboots even with upping the Vcc<br><br>Oct i believe its your DDR . your ddr should post 138 at only 2.5/2.6 vmem with no trouble . course high 140 up the vmem etc. but you ain't near it. i just put in a stick of cosair and also the heatsink mounted on it . look at the marks i posted . and there's alot left in my lil 1.2axia. my<br>crucial could post at 154 but it wasn't stable ?? cosair is Very Stable , smooth . <br>glad ya like the proggie :D got it from Kat . it rocks <br><small>--<br>GigaByte 7DXR power <br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:30:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Thanks for the link Ten, Snagit is a catchy title and I guess I will be posting screenshoots soon.<br><br>I have been playing with some multiplier and FSB settings.  It seems for the moment that default speed is the upper limit for this CPU. In other words at Vcc set to 1.75v:<br><br>9x144 = 1296MHz All good<br><br>9.5x140 = 1330MHz A.O.K<br><br>9.5x138 = 1311MHz Good to go<br><br>10x133 = 1333MHz Default rock steady<br><br>10x138 = 1380MHz cranky, lockups and reboots even with upping the Vcc<br><br>One thing I didnt try is lower then default FSB speeds.  I might give the 100MHz FSB a try just for kicks but I dont think I can set the multiplier higher then 12.5x.     <br><br>Now that I think about it, I should have written down the various error messages with respect to (unsuccessful) FSB/mult settings for later analysis. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : these peeps are ok . del what they say . &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom_www.cgi?cart_id=3695983_209_26_234_10&USER_ID=www&Pagecode=4|CPUX|FAN2|FAN5|THER" >www.atacom.com/program/a &middot;&middot;&middot; AN5|THER</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:30:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by Octavean:</SMALL><HR>I dont think that my OCing problems stem from the mobo but I am looking forward to getting a SiS 735 and an nForce based mobo as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>be very surprised if your probs center on ad11 -<br>been waiting for some mb breaks myself (just back from Mexico, again)...gonna try an build a "skank box" hehe...beyond ghetto...looking to do some "spacewalking" with the ak31 and 907 bios.  the mb got some raves with that 907 bios now available from shuttle ftp site - only thing - the via 266 still worries me, but the benchmarks from a couple of sites look good.  get my $ together and see what the lady with the hot axia (rem my wife?) on "my old ad11" will help with ;) you guy making me nervous about the cpu though - thanks to ten for the pcnut advice - they still selling axias - <br>way scared now of ayhjars :o -<br>what to do?<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:03:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : I mean to say "will NOT clock up" on my reply post bout the sis735 mobo from ecs . i'm so sad :(<br>Oct check this out ,kat send me a neat lil proggie &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.techsmith.com/download.asp" >www.techsmith.com/download.asp</A> called snagit .<br><I>[text was edited by author 2001-08-21 12:59:07]</I><br><br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-21 13:00:02]</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR> what is the truth? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <br><br>The truth is out there!<br><br>I just wish I knew what it was. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Hey Guff I agree with you on that hit and miss thing. <br><br>I have gotten very accustomed to judging a chip merely on its stepping and I guess that it would be logical for there to be some variation of quality within a given stepping or batch.<br><br>I guess this is along the lines of what Kat was saying.<br><br>BTW, looking forward to seeing those benchmarks. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:24:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Those are some nice MEM marks Ten.<br><br>I did a little tweaking that resulted in improved SiSoft MEM benchmarks.  Still, they dont quite reach yours or Kats.  My guess is that this is because you two have higher FSB settings because Im trucking along at default FSB (go ahead and laugh I can take it:)). <br><br>Ill post some SiSoft screen-shot as well but I havent installed a program that will allow me to do this yet.  Speaking of which, I see that you have upgraded or changed the program that allows you to do this.  <br><br>BTW, nice temps too.  My T-bird is still sweating it out at 42 to 44C idle.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Well Im looking forward to hearing about what that 1400MHz AYHJAR, Y, stepping chip can do for you.  <br><br>I agree with you on the ECS K7S5A 735.  The review I read on it didnt impress me one bit.  I can wait until other boards from well-known and reputable manufacturers are available. Hopefully, these new boards will have a better feature set as well.<br><br>I had no idea that the first 735 mobo would be so cheap though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : Oct you don't want the ECS K7S5A . its a no frill mobo . biostar with a sis735 chip :D hehe good board but will clock up .<br>now i've ordered a 1.4 (my first one) with the AYHJAR Y step<br>from pcnut.now if that chip don't run np ! he'll take it back . but it will run . with me gig i'm looking 4 bout 1.6+<br>with it :D the new power supply is a good choice . mine works like a stable rock . my 5v holds 5.18 to 5.08 on this 7dxr ,sweet huh ?<br><small>--<br>GigaByte 7DXR power :D<br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SMCinAZ posted : I have the Epox 8K7A and it rocks. OC's like a dream and runs very cool. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Well, when I bought my AD11 it was about $170 so I dont consider it to be the worlds cheapest but now it is only about $108 (I guess that is sort of cheap).  I think the cheapest 761 board is the Gigabyte GA-7DXC.  I wouldnt consider getting another AD11 if I wasnt happy with the performance of it thus far:)  <br><br>I dont think that my OCing problems stem from the mobo but I am looking forward to getting a SiS 735 and an nForce based mobo as well.<br><br>I just checked out pricewatch and saw that they have the ECS K7S5A 735 board out for only $63.  I dont know for sure but I think Ill pass on that one because it has no OC features other then FSB. Thats a little too thin on the feature set for my taste.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : LOL, J789 it took me awhile to get the full meaning of your post.  I cant say that I have or would have ever thought of this.  It would seem that you have found a neat little way to test a number of chips with having only paid for one or two.<br><br>Alas, I cant participate in this endeavor due to Karma (Im not judging mind you). <br><br>Thanks for the idea though.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SMCinAZ posted : Well, the AD11 is the world's cheapest MB, as I recall...<br>So, I guess you get what ya pay for. Hey, if it works well otherwise, I wouldn't sweat it. OC'ing is nuts anyway.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Smcinsjc, I would try your suggestion but I dont think my AD11 has user adjustable Voltage for the RAM.<br><br>As I recall, I was aware of this before I bought the mobo so I cant blame anyone but myself for not having this feature available.<br><br>Thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : OK, Ten <br><br>I thank you for your advice and the offer of the chip.  It seems to be a testament to your generous and good nature but I will only take the advice :)<br><br>Now I am just trying to figure out what I am going to tell the distributor.  Some how I dont think they want to hear, "yeah, it works fine at default speed but it wont OC worth a dang".  I forget the name of the dealer but it wasnt one of those OC shops with pre-tested OCed chips.  It came with a one-year warranty and no indication that it would do anything other then default but I can still give it a try because I have nothing to lose.<br><br>I cant help but think that it is very odd that the chip would be so unstable at even a very low OC (and bump in Vcc) but I will get to the bottom of this and post my results (hopefully soon).  Im only a little disappointed because I do like a challenge and if the chip fired-up to 1.5 or 1.6 with no trouble then..wheres the challenge?<br><br>What I am going try is:<br><br>New PSU - Enermax EG-365P-VE  (probably)<br><br>New CPU(s) 1400MHz (unknown stepping)<br><br>I need a new mobo (probably will get another AD11) for a general upgrade of an older PC (Celeron1 300A will OC to 450MHz).<br><br>Ill do a little research on PSUs and decide if I want 1 or 2 chips and then place my order. <br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-20 12:21:34]</i><br>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Guff$ posted : I am led to believe it is hit or miss with a lot of processors. I have a Duron 800 that'll oc to 1050 without any voltage mods, while another Duron 800 I have will only oc a little without some voltage increases. Ran into the same thing recently with 2 different AYHJAY 1.4 T-birds. One would overclock to 1.6, but not until I bumped up the voltage. The replacement (don't ask :)), will do 1622 without any voltage mods. As soon as I get the new one burned in, I'll pump it back up and post some benchmarks.<br><small>--<br>We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, which better be <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/seti">SETI</A> or <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/folding">Folding@Home!</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : starting to hear more on ahyja oc results from friends...much frustration on oc results...good but not near expected (or led to believe from all the hoopla at sites) - this is becoming more & more "open" as peeps talk & share truth...is axia the "king" of oc for 'birds? are other "steppings" just not as good?<br>some sites don't reflect what is being posted in forums...<br>what is the truth?<br><small>--<br>logic is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe to be true</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : i can understand Oct fustrations :( right now my lil 1.2axia is @1.43 stable . an my 1.33 ahyja y step can't and will not post that high ? it should , but wouldn't . don't know why either ??]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[BrushedTooth posted : You could also always order another one and decide you dont want your "new" I mean old one and send it back!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : you have got "the" chip Oct from amd. they don't come any better bigger or faster !! Said before , "sent it back" its lame ! if You can't OC it No one can . sent it back . if ya need a replacement chip to run on in the mean time till Rma is finished i'll mail ya one to use :D NP<br>that 1.33axia you have should rip right to 1.62/66 NP ..silicone isn't good . what the S   t ..sounds good to me as a rma excuse .<br><small>--<br>GigaByte power<br>un-politicialy correct person inside !!<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SMCinAZ posted : Something to keep in mind-many times when you think you have hit the "ceiling" on OC'ing, all you need to do is up the vltage to the ram. This happend to me-the furthest I could get on a 1.33 ayhja was 1.45, then I upped the juice to the ddr memory and I can go to 1.6. I am keeping it at 1.5 for now because it makes me feel less worried about it plus the heat gets past 50.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Well said indeed Kat.<br><br>Thanks for the info Ten, its good to hear about a nice OC even when I cant seem to get my rig to do any better then stock.  Sooner or later I will get the situation under control and get a little extra Hz out of this system even if I have to buy a new chip and OC that one. <br><br>With prices where they are now it is very tempting to just order a 1400/266 or two but I just cant shake the feeling that the A4 will be out (and at a relatively low price) right after I buy a T-bird or two.<br><br>In any case, I would give my 1333MHz chip to my wife but I would have to buy another mobo to go with it as well.<br><br>One thing that has always bothered me though was paying extra for a particular stepping.  It seems to me that if you should pay more then AMD would specify price according to stepping (not necessarily by MHz/GHz) and to the best of my knowledge they do not do this.  It is really just a matter of principle for me but when I bought my 1333MHz AXIA, Y the stepping was not specified in the ad and I didnt pay extra for it so I was pleasantly surprised to see what the dealer had sent me.<br><br>Hopefully, I will be just as fortunate the second time around (if I go for a T-bird) but I suspect that there will be little or no variation in the new stepping for the first set of A4 CPUs. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-17 12:25:12]</i><br>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : i'm sorry man . i've been busy playing with this gigabyte <br>7dxr mobo . already have my lil 1.2axia@1.46 1.825 volts with 5v@5.08 steady . now anything i can do to explain or post up 4 you to see , anything . kat is way more efficent at mark posting than i :D i suck at that . few benchmarks then i forget. <br>BTW: my 462 is fine on the gig . my idle temp is lil higher cause of gigs probe . but get this idle 41c 100% 43c solid. <br>hope it keeps that performance :D <br>on the Epox post i really didn't want to hurt my friends feeling on this forum . after much thought i feel it was  better to come out with the issues on the 8k.<br>well said kat  Kudos <br><SMALL>--<br>GigaByte power<br>un-politicialy correct person inside !!<br><br></SMALL><br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-16 23:06:10]</i><br>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by Octavean:</SMALL><HR>This is one of the reasons I started this thread...The review and the forum linked to it seemed to lack a great deal of substance and hard information...I was hoping that someone would have had some experience with the chips in question and would share...numbers/statistics... Unfortunately, this didnt happen. <br>I would expect that a newer stepping would surpass the abilities of the older steppings but as of yet I have seen nothing to indicate that this is true concerning the AYHJAR with respect to the AYHJA and AXIA.  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Sorry that you were disappointed...probably many others too.<br>With respect to the reviews, etc. I believe that "true data"<br>i.e. hard facts regarding hardware capabilities and performance are hard to come by.  Sites that objectively reveiw hardware are becoming more rare as commercial pressure increases.  Witness Tencz's open & honest comments re the "hot" EPoX 8K7A+ mb - what site will disclose that depth and quality of information he shared?  None really.  Examine the reviews and "stated" performance of the Shuttle AK31 rev 2.0 mb - outstanding, if you believe the reviews - yet how many know that the stunning performance was achieved with a Bios version (9.0) unavailable to the general public (still is as of to-day - e-mail Shuttle and ask for it...I did and got nowhere) yet supplied to reviewers with hand-selected mbs that would perform at very high levels.  Sorry folks, honest hardware reviews are getting harder to come by.  That's why sites like this are important...you hope to get some kernels of truth.<br>Regarding the latest TB steppings...I doubt that anything will equal the AXIA for oc-ability.  These chips were anomalies - process "freaks" in an era of strictly controlled processes.  As AMD's technology evolves/matures the silicon scientists will exercise greater control over the yields and quality of the process output - meaning that chips that overclock 30%-40% of "sold-as speed" will simply not be produced - it's bad business over the long run.  In the short-term the attention and market stimulation might lead some to believe that AXIA & AHYJA oc capabilities were intentional.  I believe that short term the process outran the controls and we all witnessed a genuine treat courtesy of AMD - we got much more than we expected and paid for.<br>The future isn't all bleak...we (all us "peeps") can openly share all we know and tip the balance of information (power really) in our collective favor.<br>just my 02]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : This is one of the reasons I started this thread.  <br><br>The review and the forum linked to it seemed to lack a great deal of substance and hard information. This was painfully evident.   <br><br>I was hoping that someone (many people) here at DSLR would have had some experience with the chips in question and would share some real numbers/statistics such as idle/load temp, Vcc, stock speed, OC speed, cooling devices and so on. Unfortunately, this didnt happen. <br><br>I would expect that a newer stepping would surpass the abilities of the older steppings but as of yet I have seen nothing to indicate that this is true concerning the AYHJAR with respect to the AYHJA and AXIA. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : i totally agree with your flame of those peeps at "OCZ" . i've known about their BS lies 4 a long time . alway check<br>"resellerrating.com" for safety in on-line buying . being a member of icrontics.com for past 10 months i know all to well of their lies , outright lies ..i hope all me friends here read up on them and don't fall prey !]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Xayd posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by Octavean:</SMALL><HR><br>Thanks for the advice about the overclockers store and resellersrating.com.  If there is one thing I hate its a distributor that doesnt distribute right or right away.<br><br>I still want to see what this new 6 letter stepping T-bird can do though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>BTW, just in case you guys didn't know, the same people that own the scheister store OCZ own AthlonOC and the other sites associated with/mentioned on it.  If you'll notice, a really unbelievable claim about certain CPUs shows up on AthlonOC about the time OCZ has them advertised on the front page of the store.<br><br>Hardly coincidence, they're all lies.  If you think you can go to 1.7ghz with nothing but one of those crappy OCZ heatsinks, you're fooling yourself.<br><br>Xayd]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted : no prob ;)<br>just wanna see what i'm missin' :D<br>that 35 fpu/ram is a pretty big gap ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : i'm just pic'n on you fic ad11 dudes :D i'll post up all the infro tomorrow nite ! been a long day ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by tencz51:</SMALL><HR>this will give you fic guys something to shoot 4 :D <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>Nice :) Very Nice! - some ?s<br>mb & bio v. (mb modded?)<br>cpu & oc rate<br>vcc<br>vio<br>mem type & timings<br>cpu fpu & alu<br>yes...we want all your secrets ;) hehe]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by Octavean:</SMALL><HR>Kat check out www.ocworkbench.com for a performance comparison of the AD11 with its new BIOS in contrast with the old BIOS (ABA42 I think)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>checked that out last night when you posted your mem timings<br>set me to thinking that perf was a bit shabby...:o<br>thanks for the oh-so gentle suggestion - without your post I would not have tweaked again :)<br>Thanks!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Octavean posted : Kat check out www.ocworkbench.com for a performance comparison of the AD11 with its new BIOS in contrast with the old BIOS (ABA42 I think). Once there, just do a search "AD11" and you will see it. <br><br>BTW, nice scores, I cant even come close to that.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tencz51 posted : senor 3 is me swiftech 462 doing a stand up job . new case with 3 120mm softblowing fans does a nice job .<br>Kat real nice . that 856 fpu is a very nice run.my gig is still burning in . monday i'll post up stock(no wpcredit)and see what we have . That Fic ad11 of your and Oct's are good runners and stable . Kudos guys :D<br>Hmm i see the stamp blocks me some with this version ! ain't buying a stamp so i'll change the version back . hehe<br><i>[text was edited by author 2001-08-12 17:27:37]</i><br><!-- 1270360  HASH(0xa542990)   --><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=96% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=MIDDLE COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/1270360?c=18135&ret=64urlL2ZvcnVtL3IxMjMxODA4LnhtbA"><IMG class="apic" id="p15963" BORDER=0 TITLE="11054 bytes" SRC="/r0/download/18135.thumb600~d01bd499672ba9af8769e7d12a5d8b8b/mbm%205%20new%20case%20temps.gif/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kat4 posted :  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>said by tencz51:</SMALL><HR>whats your FPU ? run us a memory sisoft an post up a pic...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>sandra mem & cpu - mem is @ 8:8:8:2:6:2:2<!-- 1270145  HASH(0xa3b4e48)   --><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=96% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=MIDDLE COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/1270145?c=18125&ret=64urlL2ZvcnVtL3IxMjMxODA4LnhtbA"><IMG class="apic" id="p15963" BORDER=0 TITLE="44780 bytes" SRC="/r0/download/18125.thumb600~5588225bcf3cfb93a46cc33afae33036/mem.gif/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=MIDDLE COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/1270145?c=18126&ret=64urlL2ZvcnVtL3IxMjMxODA4LnhtbA"><IMG class="apic" id="p15963" BORDER=0 TITLE="37564 bytes" SRC="/r0/download/18126.thumb600~19929e1667d5881b35312343733fab80/cpu.gif/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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