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highjinx
join:2000-10-12
Alturas, CA

highjinx to mdurkin

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Re: Interesting how ISP's claim pricing is unfair...

Can you make sense?
To clarify, PBI signed a sweet deal with SBCIS and it was grand-fathered when ASI was created? Your company wasn't offered the same deal? How are you certain that PBI is the only ISP with this deal?

Did you sign up for this deal and the contract was canceled? Or are you mad because certain ISP's (PBI included) bought into a deal two years ago that made business sense for them but not for your company?

I'm not sure I understand your gripe.
mdurkin
join:1999-08-11
San Bruno, CA

mdurkin

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said by highjinx:
Can you make sense?
To clarify, PBI signed a sweet deal with SBCIS and it was grand-fathered when ASI was created? Your company wasn't offered the same deal? How are you certain that PBI is the only ISP with this deal?

Did you sign up for this deal and the contract was canceled? Or are you mad because certain ISP's (PBI included) bought into a deal two years ago that made business sense for them but not for your company?

I'm not sure I understand your gripe.
Pacbell/SBC structured a deal that was designed so that only their own affiliated ISP could buy in. No other ISP but perhaps AOL could justify buying 750K lines. I could have bought in if I could conceivably sell that many. I can't, nor can the vast majority of other ISPs, Pacbell and SBC knew this and designed it that way. Sure, they would have honored a commitment from me too, but they knew they never had to worry about that. And they cannot justify their pricing by any economy of scale.

I am quite certain that SBCIS/PBI is the only ISP with this deal because I have logical thinking skills, a knowledge of the industry, and have spoken with a number of other industry reps including Pacbell reps about this issue. The only other ISP with a chance to have it is AOL, and while they may, the belief is that they didn't sign up with SBC/ASI for the deal before it was withdrawn in favor of the BCG for new contracts.
[text was edited by author 2001-08-13 03:19:13]

boogie74
join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI

boogie74

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said by mdurkin:
Pacbell/SBC structured a deal that was designed so that only their own affiliated ISP could buy in. No other ISP but perhaps AOL could justify buying 750K lines. I could have bought in if I could conceivably sell that many. I can't, nor can the vast majority of other ISPs, Pacbell and SBC knew this and designed it that way. Sure, they would have honored a commitment from me too, but they knew they never had to worry about that. And they cannot justify their pricing by any economy of scale.

I am quite certain that SBCIS/PBI is the only ISP with this deal because I have logical thinking skills, a knowledge of the industry, and have spoken with a number of other industry reps including Pacbell reps about this issue. The only other ISP with a chance to have it is AOL, and while they may, the belief is that they didn't sign up with SBC/ASI for the deal before it was withdrawn in favor of the BCG for new contracts.
[text was edited by author 2001-08-13 03:19:13]

Sounds like sour grapes to me- in effect you are saying that ASI favored PacBell because they set up a volume discount that no one else has taken advantage of yet. This isn't anti-competititive, as it is available to anyone. EVERY business offers volume discounts. Just because it favors larger purchasers, doesn't mean that it is logical to conclude that it was designed to keep competition out. It in fact encourages others to strive to reach the larger purchase amounts.

Boogie74