Topic 'Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768' in forum 'Verizon DSL' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780024 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 13:59:31 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 13:59:31 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12834792 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12834792 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:57:04 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12832691 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12832691 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:13:00 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12830961
If you have a modem that reports statistics, you can see what the line is provisioned for, not the actual throughput.
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The distance cap for 3/768 service is an EWL of 11,000' or less. Depending on the condition of your line, you might only get 80% of the rated maximum due to TCP and ATM overhead. While anything over 80& is considered good due to the overhead involved, I consistently get at least 90% of rated download and over 95% of rated upload.

Line capability is dependant on both the physical distance plus the quality of the line which taken together equals your Equivalent Wire Length (EWL). Factors that can affect the quality of a line are wire gage, rotted wire, bridge taps, etc.

As others have said, give a call to make sure your loop length matches what is in their database because getting a manual over-ride is hard to do and requires a lot of effort. It took me 3 months to get mine as the RT that serves me was not in the database when I first got my DSL turned up in 2001 and I was stuck at 768/128 for that long before I finally got the 1.5/384 service I ordered.

All the best.

Mike
really intelligent post lol, i wouldn't call 3360/864 cap 3.0/768 because it isn't. you're still 80-85 percent of the real cap.
if your cap were 3.0/768, you wouldn't get anywhere near that speed. more like 2.5/600 at best.
This is very close to qwest's 1.5/896 except twice the download speed. Rock N' Roll!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12830000 Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:57:13 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12824875 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12824875 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 20:44:25 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12817067 said by Artluo100:

... is the new 3.0 Mbps DL / 768 UL fast? and if so do you think I can host a fast enough FTP server? If I can host one, will the uploading affect my download? ...
In practice, I've found I can use 2/3 of my upload (for seeding) and not notice any problems downloading at full 3.0 mbit speeds. You could probably push your dedicated upload a bit more but I prefer to keep 256 kbits for myself to use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12817067 Wed, 02 Mar 2005 23:22:53 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12815200
They had problems during the end of December and most of January. The upload stayed the same, but the downstream fluctuated horridly. This was fixed over a month ago.

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but if I do upload, does it make my download slower such as slower webpage load, games, and reg. file downloads?


Can't you test this right now, since you have OOL?
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I came from OOL about 2 or so weeks ago. I run an smtp server, for a very small user base (about 10 people) to play around with email.

Its as simple as this. I was paying 50 a month for OOL, with the ports I needed closed.

With VOL, I pay 29 a month (its like 31 after taxes, cant beat that), I am on a contract for a year (they cant increase anything while on the contract), and all the ports are open.

I consistantly get 2.9down and 705up, pretty close to the advertised speed.

With OOL, on average i would download at around 300 to 350 (taken over many months of web sites, file downloads, ect..) Even though OOL supplies you with a 10Mbps download link, you will very rarely see that (most times only when your downloading from a large company, such as microsoft) so the 300 to 350 average (what i get with VOL as well) is fine to me.

My upload is only 100 or so k slower then OOL, wont notice that in the real world.

What would I do if I were you? I just told ya ;)

Best decision I ever made.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12812244 Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:43:37 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12806706
thats gay...

hmm..

any other advice?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12806706 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:19:35 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12797504
Though the fiber part of the cable systems were built to handle a lot of that bandwidth, it was the connections to the world outside the cable system that were getting clogged up. So the AUPs were written to allow the cable and telco ISPs to throttle usage, caps were put in and now the 2-3% are moaning about how their servers just don't work like they should.

For $20-$50 bucks a month, we're getting 98% service at our residences. If we wanted 100%, we'd never be able to afford it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12797504 Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:49:14 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12795322 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12795322 Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:10:18 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12794795
Here is the relevant TOS from »www.optonline.net/Cservi ··· ,00.html

21. Prohibited Uses of Optimum Online: Subscriber shall comply with all of Cablevision's standards for acceptable use with respect to the Optimum Online Service and the Services and shall refrain from any and all illegal and/or inappropriate activities, including without limitation as outlined in the Acceptable Use Policy. The Cablevision Internet Product Acceptable Use Policy will be updated from time to time and the latest version will supersede all prior versions. Please click here for the most updated Acceptable Use Policy.

In addition to the prohibitions outlined in the Acceptable Use Policy, Residential Optimum Online users may not:

(a) Run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;


And if you are thinking about moving your activities to Verizon; please be sure you can live with their TOS as well found at »www2.verizon.net/policie ··· /tos.asp



5. You may not use the Broadband Service to host any type of server personal or commercial in nature.

3.7 Verizon reserves the right to audit connections electronically to enforce these or any other provision of the Agreement.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12794795 Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:25:27 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12794201 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12794201 Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:16:24 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12790452
Line capability is dependant on both the physical distance plus the quality of the line which taken together equals your Equivalent Wire Length (EWL). Factors that can affect the quality of a line are wire gage, rotted wire, bridge taps, etc.

As others have said, give a call to make sure your loop length matches what is in their database because getting a manual over-ride is hard to do and requires a lot of effort. It took me 3 months to get mine as the RT that serves me was not in the database when I first got my DSL turned up in 2001 and I was stuck at 768/128 for that long before I finally got the 1.5/384 service I ordered.

All the best.

Mike
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Verizon DSL: $29.95/month Optimum Online: $44.95/month Its kind of a no brainer here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12784817 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:40:54 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12784440 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12784440 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:47:25 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12783312 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12783312 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:15:43 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12781361 --
Always Reach Beyond Your Grasp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12781361 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:44:49 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780725 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780725 Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:19:03 EDT Re: [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780427
upload is 768kbps so its almost the same as Optimumonline ( 1mbps).. and there is no caps..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780427 Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:26:57 EDT [trouble] Question: Question about new 3.0/768 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780024 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/trouble-Question-Question-about-new-30768-12780024 Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:20:08 EDT