http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13265046 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 13:52:44 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 13:52:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13920483
I run my Xincom in dual wan shared 70/30 mode between two DSL lines of different bandwidth. I run Azureus bit torrent client set to use 50% of the total up bandwidth, and tie the appropriate mail server addresses to the appropriate WANs. QOS gives priority to time service and surfing.

Bandwidth sharing of course cannot, at least with a 502, operate with precognition and actual sharing will depend on what different connections will supply or ask for.

kirby]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13920483 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:50:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13897502 said by foneguy9:

Setup on the Network with WAN port 1 for DSL(PPOE) and WAN Port 2 for Cable Modem. I can see I am using both WAN ports for DL and Web surfing. I still need to see how I can tweak it any.
Connections are working with a Dlink DI614+ for Wireless.

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I'll put together the network diagram for all...
Foneguy,

How you making out with this?? You said your able to see that your using both ports for download and web surfing...does this mean you actually see an increase in speeds?

I am also looking at a solution like this, but im going more towards the speed end.

and hows that network diagram coming :)

Very interested, let us know :)

John
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Disclaimer: These are MY comments, my emplyer cant be held responsible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13897502 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:01:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13449242 I purchased from Eagle Store the Xincom 502 for 132.00.

Setup on the Network with WAN port 1 for DSL(PPOE) and WAN Port 2 for Cable Modem. I can see I am using both WAN ports for DL and Web surfing. I still need to see how I can tweak it any.
Connections are working with a Dlink DI614+ for Wireless.

YESSS:>>>

I still need to setup the Dlink 804HV for the VPN and setup the passthrough to it.
Also, I need to setup my NEC phone, it is connecting to the Voice server, however, no voice Packets(UDP being held up in this setup). I could use it as an expensive and fancy clock
:)

I'll put together the network diagram for all...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13449242 Thu, 19 May 2005 20:34:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13318713
My company currently has a Fortinet FGT200 at our main facility and a smaller FGT60 at our remote Atlanta facility. They both work flawlessly. We use it for not only firewall, but content filtering, antivirus, and VPN. It wasn't difficult to set up to be honest. It did take a little reading though as well as a call to tech support initially. :)

I have a Linksys RV082 router with dual WAN capabilities. I don't have the dual WAN running at my place, but I have set up a dual WAN with this router at a friends. It works great as well. Neither myself or my friend who I set this up for has had to reboot the router yet. Now that is uptime!

If you are recommending a dual WAN solution for a company, I can recommend Fortinet. The extra cost of antivirus scanning as well as content filtering are easy to justify, especially for a work environment. The content filtering is $1000 a year for the FGT200, but it is cheaper for the lower models. Advantage is that I don't have to babysit the employees anymore. :)

However, for home, I can recommend the Linksys RV0 series of routers. I know there are other dual wan routers out there. I used to have a Nexland and those were nice until Symantec took them over. Now the support sucks pretty badly. :(
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The Xincom XC-DPG502 TWIN WAN ROUTER 4PORT 10/100BTX
@ $150.00
»www1.bottomdollar.com/p_ ··· 094847//

I will make do without the dial up backup and bandwidth aggregation.

I have an Existing 8 port Switch which I will connect to one of the Xincom ports. Every other device will be attached to this switch.

Now, My question now is:
For the VPN portion, will an existing Dlink DI-804HV work BEHIND the Xincom?
I have established gateway to gateway and client to gateway VPN connections with this device connected directly to either the DSL or Cable WAN.
I have sent an email to Dlink support and Xincom, but haven't got a response yet.

Any thoughts?

(The DI-804HV is a 4-port Ethernet Broadband Router with VPN (Virtual Private Network) capabilities. The VPN feature allows users to securely connect multiple computers over the Internet. It also features 10/100Mbps Auto MDIX Ethernet ports allowing CAT 5 cable (straight-through or crossover) to work with the DI-804HV.

The DI-804HV includes a new setup wizard and D-Link’s easy-to-use web-based graphical user interface (GUI) to help users configure network settings with a few simple clicks. With its built-in firewall protection, this router will also help to prevent unwanted Internet intruders from accessing your private network.

Oh, and by the way, if I didn't have the DI-804HV already, and I needed the VPN connection(s) more often, I would definately go with the ZyWALL 35!!!!!:o

Also, the price is somewhat still above my budget...
Still the possibility of getting this device when I can get additional funds funneled for it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13317424 Tue, 03 May 2005 02:55:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13304077
Too bad after an extensive google search I could only find reviews on the 602 with smal references to the 603.

I have to agree with ANAV there is simply not enough data from real users to support their claims.

However the good news is that the 603 is $520+ which is much lower than the $799 on the xincom site. If it drops below $400 I will take the plunge on one for the inbound loadbalancing, however I will be up for testing with others.

Would be great if xincom sent out 603 to some test sites.
Someone in another forum said that they believe the proc on the 603 would choke under the load that dual wan vpn would cuase. Perhaps that is true. I remember when the pro800 turbo did noteven work for lodbalancing and the makers did not seem to have an understanding of their own tech untill one year after release and much user input. We were rewarded with the symantec purchase :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13304077 Sun, 01 May 2005 13:23:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13303402
If you own the office and the fast 100Mbs connection at the office you can afford to install a fast line at your home. And then just how fast does your home connection really need to be.
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No.

You have an amount of bandwidth at home (1.5mbps, 3.0 mbps, or whatever you are paying your ISP for). That is all you have. To get more bandwidth you need to buy it from an ISP. Once you buy more bandwidth the 603 will allow you to combine the bandwidth if you bought the bandwidth from two different ISPs but only to the 603 you are connecting to (the office in your example).
You ar enot understanding my question or I am not understanding your answer. What I want to know again is the 603 or fatpipe a way to get arround binding connections with out the isp.

So lets say you office has a 100mb connection. Lets say you have 2 6mb connections at home. You and the office both have fat pipe or the 603. Would you be able to connect first to the office with vpn aggr4egating through fate pipe or the 603 and then through the office vpn connection be able to get out to the internet at the full 12mb minus the vpn overhead?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13301947 Sun, 01 May 2005 02:07:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13298434 quote:

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Close I am asking is if the office has a much faster internet connection and I vpn to the office using a 603 would I in fact be using both connections aggregate?

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No.

You have an amount of bandwidth at home (1.5mbps, 3.0 mbps, or whatever you are paying your ISP for). That is all you have. To get more bandwidth you need to buy it from an ISP. Once you buy more bandwidth the 603 will allow you to combine the bandwidth if you bought the bandwidth from two different ISPs but only to the 603 you are connecting to (the office in your example).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13298434 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:58:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13297117
You and ALL, and I do mean ALL, the people that post to threads like this with statements and or questions about this or that hardware making it possible to COMBINE 2 or more connection need to read up of the whole internet/(TCP/IP)/networking/protocol/packet transfer system.

It CAN NOT BE DONE. Just how many times does it need to be stated.
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What would the cost of vpn overhead be on total bandwidth?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13297024 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:15:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13293920 quote:

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Lets say your office has a 603 and you do also. Then lets say your office has a much faster internet connection then your home. Using vpn aggregation would you not be able to connect through the office and then connect to the internet to infact have both connections act as one since the vpn aggregation would be combining them?

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I am not sure I understand what you are asking. If you and the office both have the same device then you can setup a VPN connection to the office. but it doesn't matter what connect your office has - you are still limited by the speed of your connection. If you obtain a second connection and setup a tunnel using each ISP and the 603s work properly then you could get the total bandwidth of each of your connections to/from the office. However any traffic which does not go via the office will only get the bandwidth of one or the other ISP connections.

Is this what you are asking?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13293920 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:07:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13291134 --
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What everyone says is impossible it just what I described. And it is still impossible.
I believe I understand your point, but what I am sying is this.

If you can agregate connections via vpn with equipment on both ends bypassing the isp alltogether, then one could have the desired efffect of combining 2 connections into a single one.
This would not be a cheap solution to start but over time I could imagine it falling in price.

Lets say your office has a 603 and you do also. Then lets say your office has a much faster internet connection then your home. Using vpn aggregation would you not be able to connect through the office and then connect to the internet to infact have both connections act as one since the vpn aggregation would be combining them?

Where am I going wrong? And sure this is not cheap but prices will fall. I could see where my friend would have a fiber connection and I am stuck with 2 dsl and he would act as a proxy for me and the isp need not be involved. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13289463 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:08:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13287207 quote:

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And the fact that this exist for me at least is proof of concept of a proxy like service that could do the "impossible"

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You mis-understand the point. No message I have seen on this site has ever said or even implied that using multiple VPN point-to-point tunnels was impossible. It has been possible (and has been done) for a while. In fact you could do this with just about any encapsulation you can think of as long as both ends agree.

What everyone says is impossible it just what I described. And it is still impossible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13287207 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:06:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13285718
Can you give me the name of the website in order to test my 502 on the site?
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I have had no problems whatsoever with the 502 rebooting. The only reason it is not showing a longer uptime is because a wireless device was added and I had to flush IP and DNS information.

I have found that many routers are very sensitive to "BAD" power. It may be a good idea to keep them on a ups to clean the power. Also I have found that certain rare websites can cause some routers to have issues with that site. My 502 sffuers the same issue that linksys routers seem to have accessing local real-estate multilist website. The work arround is a temp sight they provide people like myself with router issues with their sight. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13279667 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13279649 said by michaelr7:

But aggregation of VPNs between the same end points is not what most people mean when they ask about getting two broadband connections and doubling their download speed.
But for many at work at home people this is a way to accomplish just that. And the fact that this exist for me at least is proof of concept of a proxy like service that could do the "impossible"

I have seen so much mis information given here over the years. things like you can not use all the bandwidth on 1 pc where I can do that with out a router at all using rout tables in windows. That being an example.

And what is now an enterprise solution could very wel come to the masses in a few years if history is any indication.

Inbound load balancing is now a viable option for many now and new to soho market. TZO sold a service at one time for it, but now their are routers that authorize their own dns which trivilize the problem.

The real question I have is who is using fatepipe or dual 603s and how well does it work?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13279649 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:17:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278791 Re: Recommendations for VPN Router for Telecommuter?

You may want to look at something like m0n0wall. »m0n0.ch/wall

It's a very feature rich and free firewall based on BSD.

It's designed to be installed on a solid state (no HDD) box like a Wrap. These can be purchased with 2-3 NICs in them for around $150 or less. I believe the m0n0 site has info on where you can purchase them.

m0n0 can also be installed on a normal low end PC as well, if you or the users have any to spare.

I've been using m0n0 and a m0n0 derivative pfSense (»www.pfsense.com) for some time now and have been amazed with the amount of power and flexibility they offer for free. IMHO, unless I really needed something that only a high end Cisco unit needed, I would use m0n0 or pfSense anyplace I needed a firewall.

Check them out and see what you think.

foneguy9:
Also says the m0n0 will have dual WAN capability... Not yet though...
I still sifting through the hardware options...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278791 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:08:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278716 said by foneguy9:

Check what these guys say!!
Ha...
»www.networkingsmallbusin ··· rev.html
Interesting what they say about the tz170. I'm a big fan of sonicwalls, but haven't used any of the tz series boxes. I have spoken to a few folks that hated them, though. Not sure if was really the boxes were as bad as they described, but I have heard reports of randomly dropped TCP streams that these folks SWEAR are not problems with their ISP connection, etc.

They HAVE had a run of bugs that should have never gotten past the beta - right now for instance my box (a pro4060) refuses to advertise the default route to my LAN routers over ospf.(even tho I have it specifically configured to do so) Sort of a drawback for a device intended to be used as an internet gateway. It advertises it's VPN routes just fine, just not the default route. Not the kind of bug that should slip through testing before the code is released.

I get the feeling management is pushing their programmers a little to hard to hurry up and get the code out the door.

Go to www.sonicusers.com, and search the discussion board for posts that contain the phrase "stable firmware" and you'll see what I am refering to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278716 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:51:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278704 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278704 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:50:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278548 Ha...
»www.networkingsmallbusin ··· rev.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278548 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:23:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278508
sonicwall tz170sp - about $600 street. 1 wan port, 5 lan, serial for dial backup, and one "opotional" ethernet port which becomes a second wan port that willl load balance if you buy the enhanced firmware, which will run another $425. So just over a grand street price.

I give this for comparison to the other recommendations here only, since it meets yoyur spec. I do NOT recommend it. I have never used one, but from what I have heard sonicwall seems to be struggling to resolve the bugs in their lower end boxes such as this.

That said, it does have some nice options (that cost extra of course) such as content filtering, anti-virus at the firewall (looks into the TCP streams on the fly), anti-spyawre that works the same way, email filtering, dnsrbl list spam filtering, a "snort like" signature based IDS system on the firewall, etc. They tried to make it like a swiss army knife.

I know on the higher end boxes they make that all works quite well for the most part and makes a nice supplement to server and desktop based anti virus,anti spam, etc. I hear otherwise about the lower end boxes. To many bugs keep popping up in the firmware. In fact the latest rev of the enhanced firmware has been held in beta for almost 5 months now after it was released for the higher end boxes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13278508 Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:17:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13277699
Device Statistics
System UpTime 19d 23h 44m 51s since 2005/04/07 19:40:23
CPU Usage 2 %
Memory Usage Heap 1%
Queue 2%
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Don't know much about Fortinet

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I tried once to use a Fortinet device to connect to a non-Fortinet device. Didn't work correctly. The Fortinet device had a lot of things hard-coded instead of allowing the user to configure them. And the hard-coded values are sometimes not ones other vendors use or even support.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13276864 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:07:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13276837 quote:

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Anav but for years people have sworn up and down how that was not possible, and yet here we are with xincom and fat pipe offering solutions.

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What most people have sworn is not possible is for a user to get the total bandwidth of both ISPs when accessing a single site. Accessing multiple sites you can get the total bandwidth if each individual site maximizes a single link.

The functionality mentioned above which maximizes traffic over two or more VPNs is standard on most enterprise class routers when the end points are the same for each VPN (or the end points work together) and the brand of router is the same on both ends. (I have 4 VPN tunnels - two primary and two backup - for this purpose.)

But aggregation of VPNs between the same end points is not what most people mean when they ask about getting two broadband connections and doubling their download speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13276837 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:04:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13272469 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13272469 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:29:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13272260
Also look at their manual and read as much as you can stand to get a feel for them.

I have learned the hardway that you get what you pay for in this space. I have 2 hawking paper weights.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13272260 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:05:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13271921 Could it be a contender?

FortiGate-60
The FortiGate-60 system is an ideal solution for small offices. The FortiGate-60 features dual WAN link support for redundant internet connections, and an integrated 4-port switch that eliminates the need for an external hub or switch, giving networked devices a direct connection to the FortiGate-60.


* Dual WAN link support for redundant Internet connections, and an integrated 4-port switch provide flexible deployment
* Delivers superior performance and reliability from hardware accelerated, ASIC-based architecture ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13271921 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:22:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13271845
The short answer may have been no, but I see it becoming yes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13271845 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:11:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13270587 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13270587 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:23:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13270433
»xincom.com/twr603.html

"VPN Gateway-to-Gateway Aggregation & Redundancy
The XC-DPG603's primary features are full VPN Aggregation with Automatic Failover and the Authoritative DNS function with Inbound Load Balancing. The VPN capability will allow for two aggregated VPN tunnles to effectively work as single tunnel combining VPN traffic over two broadband connections. Full redundancy is assured when establishing a VPN tunnel on each WAN port. The authoritative DNS feature load balances inbound traffic requests to the respective IP address on a network infrastructure that hosts content on multiple servers. High throughput of inbound and outbound requests are managed by dual WAN ports that utilize the combined bandwidth of two separate concurrent broadband connections including DSL, Cable, and/or T1."

I just can not help but be impressed with this router. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13270433 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:33:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13269186
I suspect the throughput one way on the xincom is for the firewall only and is 27Mbps.
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Also, I have seached others who use the Xincom 502, and are having problems with reboot.
(»Xincom 502 Reboot Problem)

And you're very right, @$700 for the Zywall 35 is looking better!!!
Still, I'd like some comments for the Zywall or the Xincom 503. Either looks good, however, since dial up backup is on my wish list only and not required, I could get used to the PRICE of the Xincom 503 :)

I'm still open to any other suggestions and recommendations you all might have!

Xincom 503 Twin WAN VPN Gateway
$356.99 on PCMall.com
Model Number XC-DPG503
Product Specifications
Physical Interface Features -

WAN:
• 2-port 10/100 Mbps RJ45
• Auto-MDI/MDIX; 802.3/802.3u

LAN:
• 4-port 10/100 Mbps RJ45
• Auto-MDI/MDIX; 802.3/802.3u

Hardware Features -

• RISC 166 Mhz Processor
• 1 Mb Flash Memory
• 16 Mb RAM

Performance Features -

Throughput: Over 54 Mbps

Load Balace & Backup:
• Outbound load balancing by bytes, packets, or sessions
• Auto backup connection

Supported Protocols:
• Security: NAT, UPAP, CHAP
• Network: TCP/IP, DHCP, PPP, UPAP, PPPoE, Multi-session PPPoE
• Routing: static route (WAN & LAN), ICMP, ARP Proxy, HTTP, RIP I/II
• Connection: static IP, dynamic IP, PPPoE, PPTP

User Support: LAN: Up to 253 users

Security Features -

VPN:
• Gateway-to-Gateway Endpoint
• IPSecTunnels: 30
• Encryption: DES(56-bit), 3DES(168-bit), & AES(128-bit)
• Authentication: MD5, SHA1, SHA2, Manual key & IKE
• VPN throughput: 10 Mbps

Firewall:
• Stateful Packet Inspection
• NAT (Network Address Translation)
• NAPT (Network Address Port Translation)
• DoS (Denial of Service)
• Access control by group
• Ping to Death
• ICMP filter for WAN
• Packet filter
• URL block

Management -

Security:
• Admin passwords
• Authentication with UPAP and CHAP for PPPoE

Firewall:
• Management through WAN & LAN port
• HTTP web based management
• Email alert of disconnection

Applications -

• Support MSN & Net meeting
• Support with H.323 VoIP products
• Multi-session PPPoE
• SMTP binding
• SNMP
• NAT status & connection list
• Virtual server


• Multi-DMZ
• MTU changeable for WAN
• Dial-on-demand & Auto-disconnect
• Dynamic DNS
• MAC address clone
• Transparent Bridge Mode]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13268738 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:35:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13268089
If you were looking for a straightforward Dual Wan Router, I would only consider the Xincom 502.
Since you add in VPN endpoint capability, that adds a much more complex solution and an appropriate processor. Add in dial backup and other features and concur with shootists suggestion.

The street price is more like 700$

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Ain't nuthin but the blues! "Albert Collins". Leave your troubles at the door! "Pepe Peregil" De Sevilla. Just Don't Wifi without WPA, "Yul Brenner" - (Llama Works Equipment ) -]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13268089 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:25:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13267346 Looks awesome!:D:D Everything I need and wish for! :o
A bit pricy for what I was looking for however, If I'm going to dish out this kind of money, have you, Shootist, or anyone else have experience using this product?

I was looking in the price range @ $500.

The following is straight from their web site(online shop):
»store.zyxel.com/usshopca ··· s_id=167

ZyWALL 35 $995.00USD


Features

Virtual Private Network
- 35 simultaneous IPSec VPN Connections
- Max. 40Mbps 3DES/AES VPN performance
- Manual Key, IKE and PKI(X.509)
- IPSec NAT Traversal
- Xauth User Authentication

Firewall Security
- Transparent Firewall (bridge mode)*
- Stateful Packet Inspection
- DoS and DDoS Protection
- Real-time Attack Alert and Logs

Content Filtering
- Java/Active X/Cookie/Proxy Blocking
- URL and Keyword Blocking
- Web Content Filtering (Cerberian)

Traffic Management
- Policy-based Traffic Shaping
- Priority-bandwidth Utilization
- Guaranteed and Maximum Bandwidth Allocation

High Availability
- Dual WAN ports Auto fail-over and fail-back
- Dual WAN ports for Load Balancing *
- Dial Backup

Network
- DHCP client/relay/server
- PPPoE
- PPTP

System Management
- WebGUI (HTTP and HTTPS)
- Command Line Interface (Console, Telnet, SSH)
- Firmware Upgradeable (WebGUI, TFTP/FTP/SFTP)
- Vantage Centralized Network Management*

Wireless
- IEEE 802.11b/11g compliant
- 128-bits WEP Encryption
- IEEE 802.1x Port-Based Authentication with RADIUS Client
- WPA*
- IPSec VPN over WLAN ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13267346 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:05:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13266222 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13266222 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:53:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13265046 I've been reading the responses to post and they are in MHO very straightforward and wise. I need your advice on a router that supports dual WAN.

I have a DSL(2.0/384)and a Cable(3.0/256) connection at home. I would like to primarily do a load balance and backup between these 2 connections and possibly, a dial up modem for a tertiary backup. If I can aggregate the bandwidth, that would be excellent, however, its not necessary(budget concerns :D )

Here is what I want to have setup:
Dual WAN Router with VPN (Not passthrough, but actual VPN tunnels @ 2 at a time) If VPN isn't available, then I can use a DLINK VPN Router I have lying around.
Minimum of (4) 10/100 LAN ports (I will be using @ 7 ports, not all the time but I can use an 8 port switch that I am now using)
QOS for IP phone(s) from work.(The NEC IP phone I'm using uses IPSec)
Wish list:
Tertiary Analog Modem backup
Aggregated Bandwidth (salivating!!!)

Currently, I have both connections separated between the devices(PCs, IP phone(s), and wireless Access points). They have a static bridge between the routers. I want to consolidate my setup.

Hope you can help me make up my mind on the hardware!!! :)
It doesn't have to be any particular brand, I was comparing features with the ones below.
The following is what I have been looking at:

[SIZE=6][U]Linksys RV0 series RV082[/U][/SIZE]

A high-reliability Internet connection-sharing router and 8-port switch for small business
Features dual Internet ports for load balancing and connection redundancy
Securely connects up to 50 remote office or traveling users to your office network via VPN
Advanced SPI firewall protects your PCs from most known Internet attacks

[SIZE=6][U]Hawking Technology H2BR4 Dual WAN 4-Port Firewall Router[/U][/SIZE]
The H2BR4 features high-level security and is equipped with true, hardware-based firewall protection. The firewall utilizes Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI) technology, Network Address Translation, and prevents against Denial of Service (DoS) attacks from outside intruders. In addition, the VPN (Virtual Private Network) pass-through feature allows for fast, reliable, and secure access to your corporate network via a public Internet network.

The H2BR4 includes a full set of powerful features. It utilizes Network Address Translation (NAT) to expand your existing network without affecting existing IP based account schemes. The router supports DSL, Cable, and other broadband modem connections that connect to an RJ-45 Ethernet port. The H2BR4 also features Virtual Server and DMZ functions, which allow the user to protect clients on the network behind the router while permitting specified traffic to be opened up outside the network. The router has a built-in DHCP server, which eliminates the need to configure each IP address manually. The user-friendly web management interface provides the user with an easy way to configure the router from anywhere in the world using a web browser. The H2BR4 can easily be firmware upgraded and is compatible with all standard Internet applications.

Product Description
Hawking Technologies HBR49, Cable/DSL Broadband Router Dual WAN Ports and 4-Port 10/100Mbps Switch.

[SIZE=6][U]NETGEAR FVX538 - PROSAFE 8PORT VPN FIREWALL RTR DUAL WAN 10/100 [/U] W/ 1PORT GBIT - FVX538NA[/SIZE]
Features Product Description - NETGEAR ProSafe FVX538 - firewall
Device Type - Firewall
Connection / User Qty - 200
Enclosure Type - External - 1 U
Dimensions (WxDxH) - 13 in x 8 in x 0.7 in
Weight - 4.4 lbs
Localization - North America
Processor - 1 x Intel 533 MHz
RAM Installed ( Max ) - 32 MB
Flash Memory Installed (Max) - 16 MB flash
Ports Qty - 8
Data Link Protocol - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Network / Transport Protocol - TCP/IP, UDP/IP, ICMP/IP, IPSec, PPPoE
Remote Management Protocol - SNMP, Telnet, SNMP 2c, HTTP
Features - DMZ port, DHCP support, NAT support, VPN, Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), DoS attack prevention, Intrusion Detection System (IDS), VPN passthrough, URL filtering
Power - AC 110/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Manufacturer Warranty - 3 years warranty

Technical Specs Device Type - Firewall
Connection / User Qty - 200
Height (Rack Units) - 1 U
Width - 13 in
Depth - 8 in
Height - 0.7 in
Weight - 4.4 lbs
Localization - North America
Processors Installed - 1 x Intel 533 MHz
RAM Installed ( Max ) - 32 MB
Flash Memory Installed (Max) - 16 MB flash
Form Factor - External
Ports Qty - 8
Connectivity Technology - Wired
Data Link Protocol - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Switching Protocol - Ethernet
Network / Transport Protocol - TCP/IP, UDP/IP, ICMP/IP, IPSec, PPPoE
Routing Protocol - RIP-1, RIP-2, static IP routing
Remote Management Protocol - SNMP, Telnet, SNMP 2c, HTTP
Features - DMZ port, DHCP support, NAT support, VPN, Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), DoS attack prevention, Intrusion Detection System (IDS), VPN passthrough, URL filtering
Encryption Algorithm - DES, Triple DES, MD5, AES, SSL, SHA-1
Interfaces - 1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-TX - RJ-45 ¦ 8 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45 ¦ 1 x management ¦ 2 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45 ( WAN )
Cables Included - 1 x network cable
Rack Mounting Kit - Included
Power Device - Power adapter
Voltage Required - AC 110/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Software Included - Drivers & Utilities
Service & Support - 3 years warranty
Service & Support Details - Limited warranty - parts and labor - 3 years ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XP-Dual-WAN-Hardware-Help-and-Advise-13265046 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:03:45 EDT