http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13345496 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:03:36 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:03:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13399631 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13399631 Fri, 13 May 2005 13:57:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13384662 said by floyd007:

ray214:
My solution, have a Strong military and nobody will bother you at all
Yeah...worked wonders for us Americans didn't it? :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13384662 Wed, 11 May 2005 17:09:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13364157
Not to buy their own computers, that would make the producers which are not on the African continent richer and make the Africans dependence once again on finished goods, they need to BUILD from raw materials to finish products their own products. Only then they will be independent. The Western Countries will not like that (lost revenue) and may attempt to re-colonise Africa again. My solution, have a Strong military and nobody will bother you at all]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13364157 Mon, 09 May 2005 03:37:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13362520
also, you are very mature with your racist caricature too!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13362520 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:52:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13362477 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13362477 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:43:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13362432
The problem that you might have is that if more of these African countries, ya know the colonies that were worth the time for the Europeans to rob blind over centuries, ( I bet you thought the Europeans were there for religious reasons),
get a real grip on their own resources, you might have to learn to drop your prejudices and learn a few new languages.

After a major ingredient in cell phones is mined there. Check out how many things you eat have Gum Arabic in it. Even the ink in newspaper has it. 80% of it comes from Africa. I guess as long as the price of Fruit Loops stays under $6.00 a box, you will not worry about how much you depend on the dark continent.

Yes, the Internet might be a good thing in the desert and in the jungle, on the farms, and in the cities, in the suburbs and in the schools there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13362432 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:37:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13350437 dessert wasteland right about now...
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Last time I checked, I get hundreds of email and snail mail hat is unwanted every week.

Please try to give small and developing nations a chance to develop. When the USA was a developing nation, we killed off several large nations of people here and took their land. Why do you think they needed forts with high walls to be built as the Europeans moved to take the west.

This Internet that we use is good stuff. See if there are any vacation resorts in the countries in Africa that you consider poor.

Poor is a relative term usually measured by the amount of European currency that you possess and control.

Let the free market and the information super highway have a chance to stir the general population for a while.

Again: Time will Tell. It took us several hundred years to get beyond killing native Americans, and then abusing and killing the enslaved here in America.

You think you can give Ethiopia a few years to get the cables in the ground? Time will tel what the future holds for them.

African people are not all bad. Europeans are not perfect or super advanced. Internet can speed the clock for Ethiopia. It may even bring the investment necessary to bring the rest that they need there, including scam controls to block the stuff from Europeans that clog the Internet now.

Corruption and bad people are all relative to which side of the gun (or bible) you happen to sit on.

I have to sign off for a while. I really enjoyed this discussion. I hope to check in on this conversation tomorrow to see where it went.

Later, folks.

PS: Forget what you have learned about people of color. It was written by folks who may never have left their state. The world is a bigger place, and you really ought to see it as a representative of your country in the world.

Be a good world neighbor and don't let people tell you who has value in broad strokes. It is your job to see and understand the different values that each bring to the earth. We all have seen bad people do bad things. Every leaf and stem on a tree is not perfect.

A cooperative advantage will make most of us all rich.

ray214 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-Great-Another-Nigeria-on-the-Net-13350269 Sat, 07 May 2005 00:34:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13350156 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13350156 Sat, 07 May 2005 00:19:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13349632
First of all Africa is a continent, not a country. Next, there is plenty of money, wealth, and places that are just as 'civilized' as Europe. The oil and mineral content in many of the countries in Africa is the reason why there is so much interest in trying to move black Africans off of some of the lands there. What would happen if Africans started to control their own wealth rather than let the historical theives continue to steal the riches.

Just think, the queen of England did not get rich selling tea to foreign lands.

All of that aside, Computers are not the problem, it is the Europena countries trying to slow the roll of progress to try to control the wealth away from the true owners.

Once the computers are in, following cable TV (LOL) there is a great possibility that the world will educate a few African Countries on how to get a few things straight at home and leverage their own wealth to buy their computers and roads, and airports....

Time will tell]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13349632 Fri, 06 May 2005 23:00:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13349541
By the way, TV is communications, and TV is what has changed much of the way peoples have understood the world that they live in around the world. This infomation on TV was probably the majority of why the Berlin Wall in now gone.

Interactive communication is just another phase in a growth process.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13349541 Fri, 06 May 2005 22:49:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13349504
There is a whole civilization outside of the USA and England. I would bet that as the numbers of users get larger, legitimate business would be forced to take over the numbers and the start working on getting the criminals out.

Your comment is like saying that the majority of Americans favor putting Africans back in chains and back to work on the farms in the southern USA so that s small number of folk can sit on their rumps and collect the money from the forced labor of a race of people. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13349504 Fri, 06 May 2005 22:44:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oh-Great-Another-Nigeria-on-the-Net-13348681 --
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Maybe each household has 132 people in it??And one 486-based computer... which is compromised and is used to send spam in bulk. The other times when it actually works, they use it to come up with ways to rip people off on the internet.
Now I get why broadband helps them to get out of "poverty"

...No, Timmy, your turn to use the computer is in 2 weeks, you have to wait.
;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13348260 Fri, 06 May 2005 19:46:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13347797 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13347797 Fri, 06 May 2005 18:48:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13346218 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13346218 Fri, 06 May 2005 15:05:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13346098
_-Rdiedrich-_]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13346098 Fri, 06 May 2005 14:50:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345941
Im sure providing cable to the country is an extremely important task ( rolling eyes )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345941 Fri, 06 May 2005 14:27:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345895 said by internetlol2:

"We need more customers for our products and services around the world, and the Internet is a good place to meet new customers."

You're joking right? 99% of Internet traffic out of Africa is either 419 scams or people trying to buy stuff with stolen credit card numbers. Ever wonder why nobody will ship anything to Nigeria?
Ok, Mr African Expert. Africa != Nigeria. There is far more ligit traffic in and out of Africa as a continent than you see, of course since none of it is directed at you, you assume it's all 419's

bah]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345895 Fri, 06 May 2005 14:19:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345862
Cable television, formerly known as Community Antenna Television or CATV, was born in the mountains of Pennsylvania in 1948.

TV is a broadband signal that has been used for many years to carry programing to individual homes. It did not get to be nation wide here until regulations were lifted in the early to mid 70's, and has been since developed to do many things. Broadband has been there for years.

The applications that we see today have added many uses such as Internet access.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345862 Fri, 06 May 2005 14:13:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345861
You're joking right? 99% of Internet traffic out of Africa is either 419 scams or people trying to buy stuff with stolen credit card numbers. Ever wonder why nobody will ship anything to Nigeria?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345861 Fri, 06 May 2005 14:13:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13345754 said by PhoenixDown:

500,000 is a significant improvement over 30,000. Maybe they want to have the same kind success India has with the tech and outsourcing sector?
Possibly, although I doubt Ethiopia will compete with India any time soon. India has less poverty, no famine, much better education, real infrastructure, real cities, and is much safer. Ethiopia is pretty much a dessert wasteland. I mean no offence to Ethiopia, I am just making a comparison to India.
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I hope it works.

We need more customers for our products and services around the world, and the Internet is a good place to meet new customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345733 Fri, 06 May 2005 13:55:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13345707
500,ooo can become 2mil in half the time as the first 500K. 2 mil can become 8 mill as fast as the 2 mill was created......

This stuff is not expensive like it was when I started in the industry. The technology for wireless and hard wired broadband is available. Computers are relatively cheap too.

Only time will tell.

Remember, if others had not spent so much time destroying the history and capabilities of these nations in Africa, we might not need to guess how the pyramids were built.

If folks with guns would stop shooting at the folks with minds, the world would be a lot better place.

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In 1985 ( 20 years ago ) the internet's highest backbone was only 1.5 meg, and there where fewer then 2000 hosts.

A graphical/browser interface wasn't created till 1993 ( Mosaic )

DSL wasn't even though about until 1980 and wasn't really used in any amount until 1995-1997]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345680 Fri, 06 May 2005 13:47:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Ethiopian-Broadband-13345656 said by ray214:

20 years ago broadband in the home for Internet access was hard to come by. Now it is common in the USA."Hard to come by" suggests that it was available with diligent effort or cost, but that's not the case: in 1985, there was no such thing as internet broadband to the home.

Steve
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20 years ago broadband in the home for Internet access was hard to come by. Now it is common in the USA.

There is no reason why this cannot be a reality fairly quickly if the powers that be allow it to happen and the industry does not go corrupt to money hogs that would love to control such a large potential.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Ethiopian-Broadband-13345607 Fri, 06 May 2005 13:36:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-For-once-no-jokes-13345549 --
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In all seriousness, how is 500,000 connections "universal access" in a country of 66 million people?

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