http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Install-Process-13889412 en Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:14:07 EDT Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:14:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13899730 --
DirecWay 6000 CE, G4R/1230H, Linux, WiFi LAN, Vonage phone]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13899730 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:29:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13898817 His dish size is .74m
We are in south Baja, roughly at 109 lat /23long.
So what ever works for me should work for him. Also, I use vonage, and if I'm not mistaken that only works with some "birds". Satmex5 is the best choice I think.
I have disassemled and assembled my setup numerous times, so I think we can set up his system, but needed to know the routine of getting SAN and PIN numbers, and then commissioning.
I know of another neighbor who ordered his system in US, had installer set up his account, and commission it on an already pointed antenna. The antenna was never unboxed till it got to Baja and was set there. Then using dbirdman's little utility, the GPS co-ordinates were changed, and "voila" it worked.

Can't think of any other variables, grogreg.

Bajadoc
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SRS; DW600 CE; Compaq2800; WINXP; loc-Southern Baja; Sat 117; Tpdr 1130]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13898817 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:49:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13897605 said by dbirdman:

Have you looked at them? Of course I did, which accounts for why I factored geoloco and antenna gain into the response. BAJADOC listed his own geoloco as southern Baja, but I did not jump to the conclusion that his friend lived next door. Without further input, Baja is a big place, and his friend might even be mobile - or have something bigger than the standard 74cm dish.

Doc - how about some amplifying info to cut down on all the guesswork here?

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Any downside to a VAR sign-up?

Bajadoc
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SRS; DW600 CE; Compaq2800; WINXP; loc-Southern Baja; Sat 117; Tpdr 1130]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13897406 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:42:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13896308 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13896308 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:23:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13896005 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13896005 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:23:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13895914 Thanks again for all the input here.
I called Dway to-day and told them that my friend purchased an e-bay system and asked what he needed to do to get set up. They said to call billing, open an account, and they would supply a code. Then the installer could aim the dish and commission it with that code, whereever it was installed. Am I missing something? Seems fairly straight forward.
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SRS; DW600 CE; Compaq2800; WINXP; loc-Southern Baja; Sat 117; Tpdr 1130]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13895914 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:08:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13895048 The simplist way for Bajadoc's friend to get set up is to have his system commissioned on SM5 in the U.S., then set up and force range the system down south. The down side is that he may only get enough of a technical education to get on-line and end up with just another crappy marginal installation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13895048 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13894736 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13894736 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:39:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13894721 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13894721 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:37:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13894034 said by grohgreg:

what's wrong with the AMC9/G3C/G11/G4R footprints? Perhaps SM5 provides the best potential, but surely it's not the only choice Have you looked at them? According to footprints, all of the other satellites except AMC9 are below minimums for .74 meters in southern Baja. The AMC9 footprint is marginal.

No real world experience to report on AMC9 mobile users there, because it is too new/wrong time of the year, but I wouldn't be surprised to get problem reports if people try it. The others have mostly been tried, with limited to no success.
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this is the same way an installer would have to do this also, for non-default assignments (currently amc 9 )until after they verify with the NOC you pass crosspol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13893103 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:24:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892704 said by dbirdman:

The idea here, where there is clearly only one satellite usable (SatMex5/117) Ah, so one performs a best-guess setup on any old ACP-equipped transponder to jump-start the process, then calls Direcway with their fingers crossed.

I realize that antenna gain and sub-satellite point have to be considered when setting up outside CONUS, but what's wrong with the AMC9/G3C/G11/G4R footprints? Perhaps SM5 provides the best potential, but surely it's not the only choice (?)

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Thanks guys for all the input.
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SRS; DW600 CE; Compaq2800; WINXP; loc-Southern Baja; Sat 117; Tpdr 1130]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892670 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:26:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892215
however a commissioned modem will not browse the internet unless it is pointed at the correct satellite (a non commissioned modem will not prowse period). if you try to use it when pointed at any other bird you are basically left dead in the water, if you contiue to re- run the complete websetup/sbc when this is complete the modem's configuration will revert back to its default pointing parameters and you will get a message that there is no recieve signal lock since you are pointed incorrectly]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892215 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:36:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892199 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892199 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:35:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Install-Process-13892019
The idea here, where there is clearly only one satellite usable (SatMex5/117), you point, pass ACP using the registration setup/installer, then call Direcway and tell them you have a dish installed and cross-polled on SM5 and get them to provide a SAN and PIN for that modem.

I've not done it personally, but know of dozens who have.

Note this only works with a non-commissioned modem, and the cross-pol is normally more stringent than one for a commissioned modem pointed to its satellite (although you can cross-pol on a transponder other than your assigned one).
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I think I'd get it pointed and pass a crospol before calling DWay. Pointed where Stanley? This is presumably an uncommissioned system: which means it's currently without either satellite/transponder assignment or site ID. Isn't the whole idea of "crosspol-ing" for a specific site to optimize pointing angles at a specific satellite?

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If they see it as up and meeting specs you are going to have a lot less argument getting turned on. Telling them you bought the system used is fine, telling them you moved it and pointed the antenna yourself is information they don't really need to hear.

I am not sure about telling them you are in Mexico, you might want "to be" in a remote area in Arizona for your physical location and provide a US mail service address for your bills.
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I told him 1) Call DWay billing and set up a new account.
2) Get correct numbers and codes for the new account
3) Get dish mounted and tweaked in Baja
4) Activate the system via the modem with the "setup" firmware in the modem.

Am I missing something? Yes, I know Dway says you need a certified installer, but there are none where this system is going.

Comments please or tips to make it all go smoother.

Bajadoc
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