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<title>Topic &#x27;methodology of anti-spam software&#x27; in forum &#x27;Scam and Phishbusters&#x27; - dslreports.com</title>
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<title>Re: methodology of anti-spam software</title>
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<description><![CDATA[rchandra posted : My "antispam" such as it is is Sendmail + some of my own custom rulesets + MIMEDefang.  My custom rulesets will flag you (used to outright reject) if your EHLO/HELO doesn't resolve, will tempfail you if you don't have a PTR record, won't accept just a dotted quad for HELO/EHLO (unless you a.) have a PTR record and the last two components match the envelope sender's last two domain components, or b.) you are (unfortunately) on my exceptions list), and won't accept a HELO/EHLO of a receiving domain (silly little bastards trying to tell me they're me...).  All this is bypassed if you authenticate as one of my domain users (even my internal MTAs are configured to authenticate to my Internet-facing Sendmail).  MIMEDefang does a marvelous job of whacking down not only various nasty attachments but also those almost-always-annoying duplicate HTML parts.   MIMEDefang's main strength for spam-stopping is using its feature that's meant to query other MTAs for existence of domain users: doing a little SMTP transaction.  I use this to verify the envelope sender.  THAT one tends to knock down A LOT of spam.  But naturally, just like any other antispam measure, unfortunately THAT needs an exception list too.<br><br>And then of course for me personally, procmail screens out messages with certain subject lines with several creative variations, and quarantines anything not sent to me (one of my addresses has to be specifically in the To: or Cc: line).  You also are on the outs if you try to write to me with no text/plain part (such as ONLY text/html).  It's certainly not extensive, but these measures alone, without all that Bayesian classification, deflects a lot for me.  I see how much is rejected when I look every couple of days at my Sendmail and procmail logs, and it's dozens, sometimes hundreds, per day for me.<br><SMALL>--<br>English is a difficult enough language to interpret correctly when its rules are followed, let alone when a writer chooses not to follow those rules.  Blog is <A HREF="http://www.philippsfamily.org/Joe/blog">here</A><BR>Jeopardy! replies REALLY suck!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:36:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[AkumalDave posted : It's not clear what - if any - anti-spam provisions your company has in place.  Therefore, it's difficult to comment on its effectiveness.<br><br>We use esoft's ThreatWall (chose the build-your-own box option) and have found it very effective at blocking spam.  There are other commecially available solutions that work similarly, but ThreatWall is the only one I've set up and configured.  It uses a multipronged approach:  verifying the apparent sender matches the IP address, checking the IP address for known open relays, checking blacklists of known spammers and, last but not least, a baysian filter which learns our vocabulary from both "good" and "bad" emails.<br><br>Unless one has their threshold for quarantine set extremely low (as in, 0), *some* Spam is likely to slip through.  Lots of the refinance spam, for example, scores very low on the Spam-o-meter.<br><br>It's very important that a baysian filter be tuned to your enterprise.  For example, we work in the Construction Industry, where the word "erection" isn't necessarily a red flag.  After our filter had interpreted a few thousand messages, our false positives are extremely low.  And we DO now have our threshold for quarantine set at zero...<br><br>BTW, your spam-recipient probably didn't "sign up for things" as much as his email address might have been in the address book of a person with an infected computer.  Or, perhaps your coworker's email address was snatched by some bot and resold along with 14 million other "opt-in" email addresses.  Or, it could be easily "guessed" by a random generator.<br><br>I'm not saying that the user is never at fault in these situations.  However, it is quite difficult to keep one's email address completely private when working with the outside world.  In other words, he probably didn't solicit the "Animal" email.  Whether or not he clicked on it is another matter ;) .<br><br>Dave<br><SMALL>--<br>"...enjoy every sandwich..."  Warren Zevon  1947-2003</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:15:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[nevertheless posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/805156" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=805156');">lildevil</a>:</SMALL><br><br>but i'm curious, is it not possible for anti-spam software to filter a string of words?</DIV>Certainly it's possible to filter a string of words...but which words do I filter?  If I filter out all emails that contain the word 'cock', nobody's going to be able to email your Bangcock office, if I filter the word Viagara, they'll write it \/iagara...etc. etc.  Filtering single strings or common words works to a point, but not once the miscreants are actively trying to get around your simple filtering techniques.<div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/805156" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=805156');">lildevil</a>:</SMALL><br><br>or does the software work differently? i'm reading up on some posts that the software assign scores, and so on. anything i can read up as how they work? for the longest time i've been ignorant on the subject but i'm curious now. :)</DIV>Well, I'm glad you've done some reasearch before you start asking questions, that's great.  :)<br><br>Most modern anti-spam software does work on scores.  Many have common traits that they look for, some even have known databases of what spam emails look like, and others have really smart adaptive databases that look at emails tagged as spam and find emails that look like spam as well and tag them too.  What scroes allow for is an email that contains the word 'Viagara' (or any of a hundred variations on that) will get a positive score, but one that includes traits that look more real (such as a valid SPF record) will count as a negative.  Once all of the scores are tallied they're added together to reach a simple number, which is checked against your set threshold.  If it's in violation of your threshold, it's marked as spam, and your software can deal with it however it likes.<br><br>As for where you can go to look, I find that people learn best by doing rather than by reading.  Install <A HREF="http://www.spamassassin.org">SpamAssassin</A> on your home computer and become your own spam admin.  You'll learn lots of the ins and outs faster than we could ever explain it to you.<br><SMALL>--<br>Some people think I'm an idiot.  I disagree, but idiocy is subjective--so they may well be right.  With this in mind, take everything I post with a grain of salt, eh?</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:42:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[lildevil posted : one of my co-workers sent an extremely angry email to our help desk staff asking why his email box was receiving spam and why aren't our filters keeping stuff like "Animal Sex" from coming in. now i happen to know one of the techs who was a little amused by the email because apparently this is an isolated incident but i asked nevertheless why that email did go through. he didn't elaborate much saying occassional spam does get through and something about the person being an idiot for using his work email to sign up for things... but i'm curious, is it not possible for anti-spam software to filter a string of words? or does the software work differently? i'm reading up on some posts that the software assign scores, and so on. anything i can read up as how they work? for the longest time i've been ignorant on the subject but i'm curious now. :)<br><br>thanks.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:26:52 EDT</pubDate>
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