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<description><![CDATA[oliphant posted : No, you could play all the Halo you want and not approach 100GB.  Pictures...a few MB a piece.  Updates to software...what, 250MB total on the high end and how often does that happen?  How big is your mail box, 10MB, 25MB?  You could see it filled EVERY DAY and not get to 1GB.<br><br>Not to defend the skunk ISPs but there are few legitimate uses that generate that kind of traffic (100GB).<br><br>Frankly I don't think it's their (the ISPs) concern if you're doing illegal downloads or not but I'm not going to buy the typical DSLR line that people are sucking down 100GB a month downloading Linux.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:37:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[JRW2 posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1114904" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1114904');">oliphant</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>No 'cause that's only a few GB.  Caps if set are typically 30GB or so on the low end (eg Cox) and 100GB+ on the high end (eg Comcast).<br><br>IOW, it would take a lot more than a few Linux distros to meet a cap.<br> </DIV>Your right IF all I did with my connection was download the distros, but we have to add the hour or so a day I may be playing Halo, and the mail and software I download, and the updates for the software I have on my machine, and....<br><br>You get the picture, my TOTAL download bandwidth for the month may EXCEED 100 Gig by the time I am done....:D<br><br>But what about the pictures from the kitchen remodel I just finished, that my mother in Florida wants to see, I need to UPLOAD those to a server so she can see them, and what about lil' John's birthday party pictures from last week that I need to upload for her too... Oh wait, NOW I am abusing the UPLOAD side of my connection, my ISP has just capped me, at 150K... :mad:<br>Strange that 1meg up is bad, if I use it, but I guess 24/7 as 150K is OK???:huh:<br><br>So why not just peg my UPLOAD limit at 150K and advertise it that way....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:17:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[oliphant posted : No 'cause that's only a few GB.  Caps if set are typically 30GB or so on the low end (eg Cox) and 100GB+ on the high end (eg Comcast).<br><br>IOW, it would take a lot more than a few Linux distros to meet a cap.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:58:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[JRW2 posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1114904" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1114904');">oliphant</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>How many distros a month are you downloading?<br> </DIV>On average, I download them four or five times a month. They are large, so I rarely store them on MY machine, does that make me a thief???]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:40:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[G_Poobah posted : "I work in telecom, and own an ISP"<br><br>As the court system would say, you are not an impartial party, and therefore have no say in any of this. You already stated that you own an ISP. By definition, you have to pay money if people use lots of bandwidth. Therefore, it is in your best interest to accuse ANYONE of using bandwidth of criminal activity. Why? Because you stand to have a financial gain by implying that anyone who uses bandwidth is doing so for illegal purposes, which lowers the profit margins of your business. So the constitutional rights of a citizen lower your profit margin, and thus should be ignored in your world view.<br><br>Anything you say is irrelevant, since your post will be biased. It's not personal, it's just business. You win by making downloading ANYTHING illegal, since it lowers your cost. It's the same as a corporation which owns a prison accusing everyone of being a criminal in order to increase the incarceration rate, and thus increase their profits. Now, you personally may not be that way, but from your post, and the logical assumption that you want to maximize profit, I would not be out of line to accuse you of ignoring the law in order to increase your profit margin. The **AA's do it, why shouldn't you do it to?<br><SMALL>--<br>Grand Poobah</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:38:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[aelfwyne posted : I've been watching 700k video streams from legitimate news sites, some of them live 24/7. Am I a thief?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:04:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[rideboarder posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1114904" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1114904');">oliphant</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>How many distros a month are you downloading?<br> </DIV>That always seems to come up....I can't believe anyone would download 500GB of linux distros a month either....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:57:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[oliphant posted : How many distros a month are you downloading?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:45:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Hazeleyze posted : Just where do you get off accusing people of stealing becaue they use a lot of bandwidth.  The point is you should be able to use the bandwidth the ISP advertises without them complaining you're a hog.  If they advertise 8Mbps then you should get 8 Mbps, period.  <br><br>By the way, I like to download a lot of Linux distros.  Am I a thief?<br><br>My rant for the day.  Thank You.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:36:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[jdmarti1 posted : I would like to know what these people are truly doing with all of that bandwidth.  I work in telecom, and own an ISP.  It really seems the only ones that ever complain about caps are those that are using their bandwidth for the illegal trade of music and movies.  They never talk about the fact they are breaking the law, they only complain about the ISP.  What a crock.<br><SMALL>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://magicwisp.com" >magicwisp.com</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:15:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[oliphant posted : Just state the caps and take the PR hit so that people can judge for themselves if the service is worth the money BEFORE they sign up.  Stop making up the phantom caps as you go as some US providers do.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:29:13 EDT</pubDate>
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