 KanebrakeIsland Time
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iTunes 5.0 loads Bonjour ServiceDon't know if it's safe or not but I noticed that iTunes installs a Bonjour service at the startup of your computer. I installed the new 5.0 ver last night and when I booted up this morning Outpost blocked a request from Bonjour service to jump on the net. I never noticed this before in the older versions of iTunes. Anyone know if this is safe?? After looking it up it almost looks like a bittorrent type of service. |
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 SteelyI rise when the sun goes down
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Steely
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2005-Sep-8 7:33 am
Found this with Google. Maybe it helps? » www.voipuser.org/forum_t ··· 567.html |
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KanebrakeIsland Time
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Thanks Steely ... Do you know if this was installed in ver 4.9. or just 5.0? I uninstalled 5.0 and it took Bonjour with it so I guess it was part of iTunes. Have to do a little more googling on this one. |
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Version 5 of iTunes also loads the InstallDriver Table Manager service and as the previous versions also the iPod Service service, which loads even if there isn't an iPod connected. I think the following is a safe configuration:
- Bonjour Service: disabled
- InstallDriver Table Manager: manual
- iPod Service: manual (or even disabled if you don't own an iPod).
iTunes also puts iTunesHelper and QuickTime Task in System Startup, which also can be safely disabled.
The last version also fires up mdnsresponder.exe which connects to your dns-server. I presume this executable is a part of the Bonjour Service. I deny all connections for it in my firewall.
For all the people who thought Apple keeps its software simple and effective, this must come as a huge surprise... |
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KanebrakeIsland Time
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DONE ...Thanks erwin ... that's what I was looking for. |
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 Fobulous
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to erwin_mi
Damn that sux. I was never a big Itunes fan myself but this is just way too much. |
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 juilinsandarTexas Gooner
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to Kanebrake
I don't think I'll be updating any time soon. |
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Hi all if you need to turn the Bonjour Service off then just download this file from there ftp. From the link just click on "NO" which will pop up a window where all the files are kept and then tick on Bonjour to download » gizmoproject.com/jasmine |
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SteelyI rise when the sun goes down
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Steely
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2005-Sep-8 7:20 pm
Thanks for posting the link and instructions for turning off the Bonjour service. All of that was included in the thread I linked above, but it was probably a better idea to post it here directly as you did.  |
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Lee Stanford to Kanebrake
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2005-Sep-9 10:51 am
to Kanebrake
Bonjour is Apple's brand-name for zero-config IP. It's used by iTunes for music sharing (on your local network). It's not spyware. More info here: » www.apple.com/macosx/fea ··· bonjour/Here's the Windows-specific excerpt: Zero Configuration, Zero Hassles, Anywhere Now anyone using a Windows PC can take advantage of the effortlessness of Bonjour for free. The Bonjour Setup Wizard makes setting up a printer under Windows as easy as Mac OS X (we can’t make it as beautiful, unfortunately). Bonjour for Windows includes a plug-in for Internet Explorer, so you can setup a Bonjour-enabled device without knowing its IP address. You can even print to printers connected over USB to Airport Extreme Base Station or Airport Express. If you’re an Open Source enthusiast, you will be able to download the Bonjour source code to create software for virtually any platform. |
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to Kanebrake
Anyway to disable this service from within iTunes?
I feel like being force fed Bonjour along with QuickTime. |
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Bonjour is very useful if you want to share music, or run airtunes, or stream your music thru a SSL tunnel. oh, and printing to a printer thats connected to an airport express. of course, if you dont do any of that, then turn it off. |
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said by jetspeed:Anyway to disable this service from within iTunes? I feel like being force fed Bonjour along with QuickTime. You can configure all services via start/control panel/administrative tools/services. Doubleclick a service and set it to: - automatic if you want it to start it with windows - disabled if you want it totally disabled - manual if you want to start it when it's needed (this isn't always reliable). A nice site with info for the configuration of services is » www.blackviper.com/WinXP ··· ecfg.htm . |
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ticked-off to Kanebrake
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2005-Sep-9 4:15 pm
to Kanebrake
I personally didn't even want it on my pc so what I did was just reboot into safe mode, unreg one of the dlls that was marked "self-register", then delte the entire Bonjour dir.
Only prob is that when iTunes starts, it of course says there is an error in the install and I can't share music etc. You can just OK out of that, but it's annoying.
I'm pissed they would slip this component install into the product or at least now allow the user to opt-out of installing it.:( |
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 M A R S
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to Kanebrake
MSCONFIG? thats how i killed mine |
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If you turn off Bonjour ... there is the mdnsnsp.dll that was deposited in the Winsock LSP as shown in HJT as an O10 item ... should you "fix" that? |
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ummmcam to Kanebrake
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2005-Sep-10 2:06 pm
to Kanebrake
In one of the posts above someone referenced to the viopuser forum. The discussed the use of the bonjour service and claimed that it was completely safe and was simply used to check for other users connected to your network for iTunes sharing purposes. This may be true but I am running Zone Alarm Pro and it caught this bonjour service trying to not only access the internet zone(not the trusted subnet) but also accept connections from the internet. iTunes may be only looking for these subnet computers but giving the program the ability to accept foreign connections could pose a serious security risk. I think for the time being it would be best to turn off the program until they update their safety with this little program. |
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chris7780 to Kanebrake
Anon
2005-Sep-10 2:48 pm
to Kanebrake
» www.voipuser.org/forum_t ··· 567.htmlit´s adware, uninstall of bonjour brings a blue-screen (and a lot of troubles) you can only deactivate bonjour services in system or block it by firewall ! BON JOUR is now a part of your windows system, PS2 (emule) does not work anymore ? A new network driver exists after installation of Bon jour ! Have a lot of Fun , Apple is crazy ! |
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Bonkers2
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2005-Sep-10 8:54 pm
I installed iTunes 5.0 today and later found that it completly screwed up internet access for all my networked PCs on my BT Voyager 2100 router.
It took the whole day to work out that one PC was causing it due to installation of iTunes 5.0 and the "hidden/bundled"
bonjour services.
I will NEVER update iTunes again as Apple obviously can no longer be trusted! |
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blondnc to Kanebrake
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2005-Sep-11 12:37 am
to Kanebrake
im getting a similar problem.... ive had itunes for ages and just got the new download and whenever i try to install it, it keep saying 'ERROR. you dont have enough privaleges for Bonjour service'.. blah blah and wont let me finishing installing. anyone else know how to over come this? |
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Just want to help to Kanebrake
Anon
2005-Sep-11 5:41 am
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go to this site » www.apple.com/macosx/fea ··· bonjour/ and look for your self |
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bonkers2 to blondnc
Anon
2005-Sep-11 6:22 am
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Win XP?
If so it's probably because the PC administrator has limited the install priverledges on your user account to protect your PC.
In such a case, you would need to log on as the PC administrator prior to installing iTunes and the Bonjour Service to enable the install.
I would be cautious because Bonjour can cause a number of problems depending on how you access the internet and if you are on a LAN.
If your unlucky, it could really spoil your day!
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Hi Winchester:)
That would be risky and i personally don't think that HJT Will allow you to do that. I have tried but it was not possible to remove it. As i do not use this part of the tunes set up i have just left it on the ignore list and have it disabled. This i think would be the best way to proceed with this software as it is not sinister but it would have helped had apple had been upfront with there customer's before they installed this software
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 reiko2
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said by erwin_mi:Version 5 of iTunes also loads the InstallDriver Table Manager service and as the previous versions also the iPod Service service, which loads even if there isn't an iPod connected. I think the following is a safe configuration: - Bonjour Service: disabled - InstallDriver Table Manager: manual - iPod Service: manual (or even disabled if you don't own an iPod). For all the people who thought Apple keeps its software simple and effective, this must come as a huge surprise... Thanks- I didn't realize I had even installed it until my firewall started asking permission for it to access the internet- not cool! The site implies you 'install' the program- it sure snuck right by me. Really dissapointing news from Apple for sure. Thanks again- reiko2 |
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I forgot how little I know. After going into safe mode and removing the Bonjour program- and mdnsnsp.dll; I now- of course- get the 'the program was improperly installed' when opening iTunes/Quicktime.
Can someone help me by explaining where to find the 'service table' and how then to remove the mdnsnsp.dll from it; so I can stop those error messages. I'd sure appreciate the help.
Running Windows XP Pro/SP2. I don't have the Windows Firewall on- using Outpost Pro.
Thanks again for any help- reiko2 |
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Thanks mate ...
I was surprised when the firewall popped up about Bonjour, both incoming and outgoing. Came here first to get the skinny on what it was about.
Ran their .exe to disable it (got the link from one of the early posts), then ran HJT to see what else had been deposited.
Yuck. |
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2005-Sep-11 1:08 pm
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said by reiko2:Can someone help me by explaining where to find the 'service table' and how then to remove the mdnsnsp.dll from it; so I can stop those error messages. I'd sure appreciate the help. As stated in a my previous post: "You can configure all services via start/control panel/administrative tools/services. Doubleclick a service and set it to: - automatic if you want it to start it with windows - disabled if you want it totally disabled - manual if you want to start it when it's needed (this isn't always reliable). A nice site with info for the configuration of services is » www.blackviper.com/WinXP ··· ecfg.htm ." To stop the error messages you can better reinstall or repair iTunes and tweak it as I suggested in my first post in this thread. |
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 Telly Boot
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I got the Zone Alarm (free) Bonjour Service warning while installling Quicktime 7.0.2 (which is the buggiest program ever )so I denied BS any access/server rights. So I figure that it is installed but can't do anything. BS, what a clever name.... |
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steve13682 to blondnc
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2005-Sep-11 9:47 pm
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Searched a while for this but it should fix the error 1920 bonjour service and not having the authorization. » www.neowin.net/forum/ind ··· c=369235 |
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