http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14022335 en Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:00:11 EDT Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:00:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15620506
I called for a service credit and that was a fiasco, dont know if I will see it and if I dont I am out of here..
»You dont know there is an issue?!?!?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15620506 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:08:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15620469 »You dont know there is an issue?!?!?
for more info lol

I hope it all gets better soon, so many compaints, and Im sure you are super busy trying to get things done. It just seems you are the only one, and having to deal with an uphill battle (kinda like when we try to call Charter lol).

Cheers :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15620469 Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:03:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15442456 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15442456 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:26:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15429046
It was so nice to see this thread disappear since 12/9/05.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15429046 Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:46:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15428087 I was effected by this problem with the level3 backbone in atlanta from wilkesboro NC. Problem had been fixed for a good bit of time until 2 weeks ago.

Now every once in a while (usually tuesdays-thursdays) between 8:30pm and 11pm est I'm getting an average 200ms ping jump at atlanta.level3.com.

Its nowhere signifigant as last time (being in the 1200ms range) but still 200ms is disasterous for i-conference calls to texas.

Those who were having this problem, has it come back for you too?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-15428087 Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:16:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987654 said by chtr_sc:

I am tired of trying to do a juggling act with 5 OC-12's and 3 providors. AT&T has given me a due date of 12/28 for an OC-48. Giving time for errors and such I am thinking it wil be done by 2nd week of Jan. I also have a OC-48 on order with Wiltel. I am expecting that circuit to be delivered end of Feb. Those will be the only two circuits needed till late 2006 early 2007.
That sounds great man! Thank you for doing all that you can!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987654 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:17:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987274 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987274 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:14:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987215 said by chtr_sc:

Better tonight? I made some changes last night and some more this afternoon. Hopefully that will get me until the end of the month when the next circuit comes in.
It seems somewhat better, thank you for taking a look at it.

If you can't answer these questions I understand...
1) What is the new circuit you have on order and who is the provider? I think you stated this on another thread but I couldn't find it

2) How long until you complete the turn up? Sometime in mid January?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14987215 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:03:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986822 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986822 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:02:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986597 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986597 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:29:54 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986407 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14986407 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:04:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14978581
Target Name: www.winfiles.com
IP: 216.239.115.149
Date/Time: 12/8/2005 8:01:52 PM

1 0 ms 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 7 ms 12 ms [10.122.224.1]
3 9 ms 9 ms [172.22.32.1]
4 8 ms 9 ms [172.22.32.102]
5 196 ms 210 ms [12.124.58.105]
6 237 ms 257 ms tbr2-p011904.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.78]
7 237 ms 255 ms [12.122.2.89]
8 237 ms 264 ms tbr1-cl20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.50]
9 286 ms 297 ms gar4-p300.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.28.202]
10 246 ms 262 ms idf26-gsr12-1-pos-6-0.rwc1.attens.net [12.122.255.122]
11 247 ms 263 ms mdf3-bi4k-2-eth-1-1.rwc1.attens.net [216.148.209.66]
12 247 ms * [63.241.72.150]
13 248 ms 266 ms c10-sparta-lb.cnet.com [216.239.115.149]

Target Name: www.yahoo.com
IP: 216.109.118.78
Date/Time: 12/8/2005 8:03:21 PM

1 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 7 ms [10.122.224.1]
3 7 ms [172.22.32.1]
4 8 ms [172.22.32.102]
5 183 ms [12.124.58.105]
6 201 ms [12.123.21.74]
7 284 ms [12.122.10.69]
8 199 ms [12.123.8.53]
9 34 ms [12.118.44.10]
10 200 ms [216.115.96.161]
11 * []
12 199 ms [216.109.118.78]

Target Name: (resolving host name)
IP: 69.12.5.139
Date/Time: 12/8/2005 8:03:36 PM

1 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 23 ms [10.122.224.1]
3 20 ms [172.22.32.1]
4 9 ms [172.22.32.102]
5 203 ms [12.124.58.105]
6 207 ms tbr2-p011904.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.78]
7 205 ms ggr1-p380.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.50]
8 254 ms atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.1.25]
9 205 ms atl-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.105]
10 272 ms dal-core-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.2.2]
11 272 ms dax-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.162]
12 273 ms [65.120.155.130]
13 271 ms 200.ge-0-1-0.cr1.dfw1.speakeasy.net [69.17.82.221]
14 227 ms so-1-2-0.core1.dfw1.netfire.com [69.17.82.158]
15 228 ms [69.12.5.139]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14978581 Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:03:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14956682 said by DA:

Bellsouth serves our area and if you can get their 6meg package is actually cheaper. You can try them for 30 days with no obligation outside of the first month's bill. There is also a company called cyberonic that resells Bellsouth's service and will give you a 6meg/512 package for $59.99.
Just as a follow-up I decided to check and verify for my own information what was available from cyberonic and all that is available in my area is a 608/128 package but that is due to my distance from the DSLAM. Bellsouth feeds me with a remote DSLAM so they offer me their full range of packages evidently whoever cyberonic is reselling (I think he said newedge?!) does not have a remote dslam. If you are closer you might be able to get a faster connection but I forgot to ask.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14956682 Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:41:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14952595 said by cavorn:

Sikmaz it is painfully obvious that Charter is not your ISP. I pay $50 a month to charter for service and $120 to level3 to host a server. I hate throwing money away and not being able to use the internet is unacceptable. I am way out of line. The only thing worse than me doing this is pushing me to the point where I feel obligated to do so. I waited patiently for half a year calling charter telling them to fix their problem. They refused to do anything. This whole time I was wasting money and my time.

I am in a gaming clan. We have three other members with Charter. We would have professional matches and be forced to forfeit because of this problem. This slowdown affects everyone in the upstate. One would think this would be a big priority fixing, but it is not.

They did not disable BGP at my request, but I did get all of the important parties talking wondering why I requested this change. When something is blatantly not working for this long it is sad that they did not notice.
I think it is "painfully obvious" they are my ISP considering that it says so next to my name ;) and have been for years. That does not change the fact that you tried to mess with something you shouldn't.

If you have had this large of an issue with Charter I encourage you to do what others (and something I have considered for myself when my "promotion" expires at the end of Dec) have done and leave Charter for a provider that you feel better serves your needs.

Bellsouth serves our area and if you can get their 6meg package is actually cheaper. You can try them for 30 days with no obligation outside of the first month's bill. There is also a company called cyberonic that resells Bellsouth's service and will give you a 6meg/512 package for $59.99.

What it comes down to is that you almost caused a larger problem by messing with something that you shouldn't have, if you feel Charter is so unresponsive to your needs leave them! Trust me I feel your pain, Charter has been horribly unresponsive to me about some issues as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14952595 Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:35:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14950571
I am in a gaming clan. We have three other members with Charter. We would have professional matches and be forced to forfeit because of this problem. This slowdown affects everyone in the upstate. One would think this would be a big priority fixing, but it is not.

They did not disable BGP at my request, but I did get all of the important parties talking wondering why I requested this change. When something is blatantly not working for this long it is sad that they did not notice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14950571 Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:05:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14929366
From what I have been told Charter will no longer be using Level3 once the contract is up next year. They believe it to be a Level3 problem. Once they stop using Level3 and the problem remains then maybe they will see that it is a Charter problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14929366 Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:18:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14924460 said by cavorn:

I don't know if anyone will read this, but its pretty funny so I figured I'd post it. Like the rest of you I am pretty pissed off at this problem going on between these two huge ISP's. I have a gaming server hosted with level3 in atlanta and have Charter as my personal ISP. I can't even get to this server during peak hours. So after months of this problem and over 50 calls to charter complaining I decided to take action. I did a whois lookup on the ip causing the problem and the IP belongs to level3. So I called their troubleshooting NOC. They would not talk to me unless I was a customer, so I told them that I hosted my server with them. I then told them the exact problem and they looked in the logs and could see that every night from 7-11 that router was way over-utilized. They said it was a charter router though. And then they gave me the number to the Charter NOC. Yes the holiest of numbers. This is the number that level3 calls to report outages to ISPs. Well to shorten the story the problem is with the routing table between charter and level3. Level3 temporarily disabled the BGP protocol on this router and ping times went from 250ms to 4ms. So my solution was pretty obvious, leave this protocol disabled. Well I told level3 to disable the protocol and they would not without a written request. So I sent them an email asking them to disable it. Now I got the reaction from everyone that I was hoping for. Both Charter Headquarters and Level3 called me. Both wanted to know who the hell I was authorizing this and why. So I talked to the Charter lady and I told her everything that was going on. She then said "why are you authorizing this change?" To which I replied "This router has been screwed up for 6 months and you haven't done a f*cking thing about it. I have called every night and you have no escalation process. I'm tired of wasting sever hundred dollar a month hosting a server that I can't access" She said she would get a Charter NOC guy to talk to me to get the router fixed and I have not heard anything from her. This router(63.210.88.133) is the GAR router for the handoff between charter and level3. Both of them need to sit down and figure out why it isn't handing off BGP requests correctly. Until then I will keep bugging both of them and I advise everyone to do the same.
No offense man but you were WAY out of line, it is NOT your place to mess with the routing protocol between Level3 and Charter. I am a network engineer with 9 years of experience and I would NEVER touch someone else's network until I understood it properly.

I doubt that they really disabled BGP based on a random email. When I had Level3 as a provider all requests had to come from an address already authorized to make that change. So what happened was your email was just forwarded to Charter and the pings dropping was just a coincidence.

If they really did disable BGP at your request, then I am going to take a stab at what happened, there is a static router with a high cost between Charter and Level3 so when they shut off BGP the static route was still there and you were lucky it was or else you would have just taken down all the Charter customers in this area. Most likely both sides have Cisco routers and they have maxpaths enabled to do some load balancing across multiple links but it is failing. I remember chrtr_sc saying something about all the different links they have so he must be load balancing some netblocks out one link others out another etc and it probably is kind of messy. Obviously something is wrong that needs to be fixed but you would be better served contacting him via this board with the information you recieved or calling the Charter NOC rather than attempting to mess with their network.

Obviously Charter is having a problem and I understand your frustration but mucking with someone else's network is never a smart idea. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14924460 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:23:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14923962
LEVEL3 NOC: 8774538353
Charter NOC: mod note - phone number not found on google removed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14923962 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:14:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14567786
I have customers with T1's from ATT, ITCDeltacom, and Nuvox.

None of which have the problem we are seeing on charter.

Also I have been testing a Backroads DSL line for the last few days and it seems fine as well...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14567786 Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:13:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14567324 Some sites are reachable, others are not.
The problem seems to be with the big backbones that all ISP's are relying on.
With DSL, Some sites would load faster than Charter, and vice versa.
Some sites with DSL would just plain dump out.
Yeah, I'm mad, but for once I think the buck does need to be passed on down the line because it seems that I'm screwed either way.
So before you get all mad at Charter try and look at the bigger picture.
I think this has more to do with the fiasco over the Level3 support. I feel like I'm in a no win situation.

What is a shame is the US is behind more than any other (developed) country in the world when it comes to connectivity yet we are supposed to be the "super power".

And don't get me started on the south. 3 Mbps is the best I can be offered here, while I see other areas of the country bouncing up to 100 Mbps before the end of the year.
Argh
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14567324 Thu, 13 Oct 2005 02:39:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14565842 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14565842 Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:21:54 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14565024 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14565024 Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:40:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14560863
Pinging shows packet loss on some sites.

Here is where point of failure routinely occurs...
12.125.220.73
12.125.220.41
12.118.191.18
----------------
Tracing route to aedde.pair.com [209.68.1.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.122.80.1
2 9 ms 12 ms 9 ms 172.22.32.250
3 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 172.22.32.138
4 9 ms 9 ms 12 ms 172.22.32.194
5 * 17 ms 12.125.220.73 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

Tracing route to pair.com [66.39.3.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 18 ms 16 ms 12 ms 10.122.80.1
2 15 ms 14 ms 11 ms 172.22.32.254
3 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms 172.22.32.138
4 19 ms 15 ms 10 ms 172.22.32.106
5 * 18 ms 15 ms 12.125.220.41
6 * 35 ms * tbr1-p013101.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.149.1]
7 * 35 ms 43 ms tbr2-cl1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.10.69]
8 37 ms 36 ms 12.125.220.73 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Tracing route to crsdata.com [216.153.90.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 17 ms 11 ms 14 ms 10.122.80.1
2 45 ms 14 ms 41 ms 172.22.32.254
3 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 172.22.32.138
4 16 ms 15 ms 12 ms 172.22.32.106
5 16 ms * * 12.125.220.41
6 24 ms * 34 ms tbr1-p013101.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.149.1]
7 24 ms 22 ms * gbr5-p20.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.22]
8 * 20 ms 22 ms gar3-p360.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.81]
9 27 ms * * 12.124.65.142
10 36 ms 12.125.220.73 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Tracing route to greenvillecounty.org [206.74.42.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms 10.122.80.1
2 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms 172.22.32.254
3 11 ms 10 ms 15 ms 172.22.32.138
4 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms 172.22.32.106
5 14 ms 12.125.220.73 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Tracing route to greenvilleonline.com [159.54.228.182]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 13 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.122.80.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 172.22.32.254
3 14 ms 12 ms 10 ms 172.22.32.138
4 15 ms 17 ms 13 ms 172.22.32.106
5 12.125.220.73 reports: Destination net unreachable.
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Any suggestions???? Would welcome any help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14560863 Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:10:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14556997 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14556997 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:33:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14556558
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.161.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.122.128.1
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 172.22.32.1
4 18 ms 16 ms 17 ms 172.22.32.137
5 48 ms 50 ms 50 ms so-2-0-2-0.gar2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [63.210.88.1
33]
6 53 ms 52 ms 50 ms ae-1-55.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.129]

7 59 ms 51 ms 53 ms as-1-0.bbr1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.128.201
]
8 43 ms 42 ms 40 ms ae-12-53.car2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.121.8
3]
9 126 ms 120 ms 118 ms unknown.Level3.net [166.90.148.174]
10 125 ms 121 ms 117 ms 216.239.47.149
11 129 ms 135 ms 130 ms 216.239.48.198
12 110 ms 111 ms 112 ms 64.233.161.147

Trace complete.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14556558 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:40:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14541466 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14541466 Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:03:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14540626
I called in a couple of weeks ago just to voice another complaint even though I had complained online, They date they credited me from was the date I called even though I explained that I used their online method several weeks earlier...

I am very pissed about this, I used the method of support that they provided me with, It's not my fault that they do not log their chat sessions..

This above anything else has me re-evaluating my current relationship with charter as a whole...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14540626 Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:50:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14540572 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14540572 Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:40:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14528979
I pay around 54.00 a month for HSI only, this irks me a bit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14528979 Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:07:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14507700
Pinging 4.2.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Pinging yahoo.com [216.109.112.135] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Pinging google.com [216.239.57.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 216.239.57.99: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.239.57.99: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.239.57.99: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.239.57.99: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=239

Pinging dslreports.com [209.123.109.175] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=54
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=54
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=54
Request timed out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14507700 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:14:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14507000
Server in T1 on Greenville:
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=18.7 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=18.6 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=18.7 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=18.7 ms

Server on Gige in Atlanta:
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=248 time=11.4 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=248 time=11.2 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=248 time=11.2 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=248 time=11.1 ms
64 bytes from 4.2.2.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=248 time=11.1 ms

My connection is acceptable for a residential cable modem, just saying that the latency is a little bit higher that's all. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14507000 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:05:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14497278 And your complaining about a 30 ping? I'd kill for that.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14497278 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:29:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14496361
Before
Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=248
Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=248

After
Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=248
Reply from 4.2.2.1: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=248

But as long as I am getting there before the city bus I am happy..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14496361 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:14:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14495983 My pings never get above the 100's.
They used to stay low 60's but as long as the connection is stable, then I'm fine with that.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14495983 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:20:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14494559 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14494559 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:50:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14485642 I had spybot put them there.
The question was can a lot of entries in the hosts file cause Net slow downs.
Thanks all the same though :)
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14485642 Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:25:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14481645
The entries in your hosts file are not malicious

127.0.0.1 babe.the-killer.bz
What that does is block popups from showing up that are coming from that address..

some times you will find bad stuff in your hosts file like www.google.com points to some foreign address. That would need to be removed because it means you have been hijacked.

What happened on your machine is that some spyware removal tool added some redirects for dangerous and common spyware popup sites...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14481645 Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:02:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14475181 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14475181 Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:45:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14470146 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14470146 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:36:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14470133 over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 7 ms 9 ms 10.122.128.1
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 172.22.32.1
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 172.22.32.137
5 34 ms 35 ms 33 ms so-2-0-2-0.gar2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [63.210.88.1
33]
6 34 ms 35 ms 34 ms ae-21-54.car1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.98]

7 249 ms 253 ms 257 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.211.121.30]
8 258 ms 367 ms 277 ms 216.239.46.150
9 253 ms 251 ms 242 ms 216.239.49.82
10 255 ms 258 ms 255 ms 64.233.187.104

Trace complete.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14470133 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:34:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14458801
try going to www.dnsstuff.com and running a tracroute to the same ip. It might not take the same route though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14458801 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:14:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456449 That level3 Unknown looks like its in the same IP range as the guy above who had problems.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456449 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:35:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456394 over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 12 ms 17 ms 7 ms 10.129.160.1
2 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms 172.22.32.33
3 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms so-2-0-2-0.gar2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [63.210.88
33]
4 22 ms 20 ms 23 ms ae-1-55.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.103.129

5 102 ms 103 ms 103 ms as-0-0.mp1.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.247.10.137

6 108 ms 108 ms 112 ms ge-10-2.hsa1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.134

7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 unknown.Level3.net [63.211.220.82] reports: Destination net unreachable.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456394 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:27:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456262 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456262 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:08:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456248 it took 2 trys before it even took.
Then the last time when it did take, took 35 seconds to "connect" as soon as it actually started to download the website, the actual transfer of the entire website page took less than a second. I hope this makes what Im saying more understandable.

The funny thing, is if I ping msn, it's very fast, like 25ms.
If I traceroute it hangs after the 5th or 6th hop.

Makes no sense.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456248 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:06:49 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456207 I tested a borrowed DNS from COMPANY WHO SHALL NOT BE RANG IN THE SOUTH WITH THE SOUND OF A BELL and it doesn't seem to be the actual DNS look up.

Case in point. When I type in www.google.com down at the status bar I immediatly get "Website Found. Waiting for Data or Transfer" so it seems as if the DNS is actually rather quick.
It looks like the delay is the actual process of starting a data hand shake, like if you remember in the old modem days 2 modems had to sync up before a transfer could start. Almost like that. I don't mean to keep rambling, but any thing I can tell these guys that might help I would like to try.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456207 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:01:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456170
I could do that couldnt I
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456170 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:56:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456121 said by techware_fx:

Could having about 2000 entries in my hosts file actually slow things down?
I did ti to fight spam and to speed things up, but now Im wondering if that could actually slow things down.
here is an example:

127.0.0.1 localhost
# Start of entries inserted by Spybot - Search & Destroy
127.0.0.1 babe.the-killer.bz
etc for the next 1800 lines.
One way to find out. Open your current hosts file in notepad, then save it as hosts.txt. Then create a new file with only 127.0.0.1 localhost and save it as your hosts file and test.
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Help make poverty history. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14456121 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:48:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14455944 I had a CHI tech give me a different DNS to use back when problems first started and have had that put in every since.

I went in a just did the auto DNS setting, rebooted. Same problem.

Here is a question.
Could having about 2000 entries in my hosts file actually slow things down?
I did ti to fight spam and to speed things up, but now Im wondering if that could actually slow things down.
here is an example:

127.0.0.1 localhost
# Start of entries inserted by Spybot - Search & Destroy
127.0.0.1 babe.the-killer.bz
etc for the next 1800 lines.
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GunMod ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14455944 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:26:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14454801 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whoa-Major-slowdowns-in-Upstate-SC-14454801 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:23:48 EDT