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Re: Suggest good router for Boost 30/2 service?I benchmarked a Cisco PIX 501 between 30 and 60 Mbps (depending on logging and filtering settings) through the firewall. $375-ish
I benchmarked a D-link DGL-4100 at about 95 Mbps through the firewall. $115-ish
Netgear claims some pretty fast speeds on their upper level stuff, but some people say it's not stable or beta-grade.
Watchguard, Juniper, Fortinet and others have some decent speeds too. Triple digit prices are the norm for these guys though. The real costs are in the "support". |
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said by jaa:said by tdoran:said by GeekNJ:The WRT54g is probably fine on the wired side. On the wireless side you won't likely be able to push the limit. G is 27mb max and prob 25mb under near ideal conditions. The WRT54g is "fine" if you do not want any security, or can live with about 10Mbps throughput which is maximum with all security function/features enabled. Not suiteable for 15Mbps or higher broadband connections. Tim Well, here is a user getting over double the throughput you claim as the max. Maybe they upgraded the router sometime in the last 30 years and you missed it?  » Best Router for Optonline Boost Yeah I pull a little over 20 on the WIRELESS side of a 54G with all the security bells and whistles on (WPA + MAC Address Filtering). If I toyed with it a little more I could probably squeeze some more speed out of it. On the wired side I land the full 30. |
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2005-Dec-12 8:54 pm
How - what are your settings? Best I can do on wireless g is about 5-6 mbps. |
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GeekNJ Premium Member join:2000-09-23 Waldwick, NJ |
GeekNJ
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2005-Dec-12 8:57 pm
5-6mb. Sure you are on G? 5.5mb is the max B speed. Are you the only wireless client connecting? Some routers drop all clients to B speeds if a B client connects. |
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Your router is capable of gigabit ethernet, and 54mbit wireless. The WRT54g can do mixed, so no dropping if a B client comes in. I don't think it's going to bottleneck anytime soon. Linksys works great for home purposes, you don't need to upgrade or 'consider' anything like a few paranoid guys might think. As long as you setup your firewall and run an antivirus (hardware and software firewall) you're pretty safe. Head over here if you are 'more concerned' with your security : » www.grc.com |
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A NAT provides enough protection for home networks. A home user would surely screw up an appliance.
That being said, I have the Router that Vonage gave me which has 10/100 on the WAN side. Linksys RT31P2
Has anyone tested this Router with 15/2 or 30/2?
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st7860 join:2004-05-13 San Francisco, CA |
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the dlink dgl-4300 gaming router has a 4 port gigabit switch, 802.11g, and 100megabit speed on the WAN side. |
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Most standalone NAT and SPI firewall boxes will hide you well enough, and apparently fast enough, so your final selection really depends on features and tweakability. A router like the D-Link gaming or a WRT54G is nice, because it lets you use packetshaping/QoS to prioritize your ACKnowledge/game/VoiP/interactive packets. Not sure what other routers let you do that, but you can stuff the ole P200 full of RAM and try » www.m0n0.ch/wall/ from CD, HD or CF card. It's based on FreeBSD, and you have full control of everything. These gateways will easily shuffle multiple Mbits across your interfaces, all while firewalling, translating, routing and packetshaping. Toms Networking review of older v1.0 » www.tomsnetworking.com/R ··· L2-1.phpSpeed/crypto performance testing: » m0n0.ch/wall/list/showms ··· id=62/57 |
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geeknj, Not to divert this thread, but... Please tell how you get this speed through the wireless side of a WRT54G? I have a V4 that, like molsen, only gives me 7 mb. I am in a G only environment, nearest other AP is a mile away. Phones are 5GH. Netstumbler reports a 50 dB SNR. Wired connection 10MB wireless 7 MB. |
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2005-Dec-13 8:31 am
I don't do anything special at all. Your RWIN is something to check since it might be auto negotiating lower when on wireless then when wired so that is the first thing I would do. Check your RWIN with the tweak tester when you are wireless.
I also run HyperWRT but I don't think that should matter. it's just a 3rd party customization of the Linksys firmware.
When you are looking at your connection in the System tray, does it show you are connected at 54mb? |
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pende_tim Premium Member join:2004-01-04 Selbyville, DE |
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It shows 54 Mbps connection in system tray. I did tweak the RWIN up to 64k (or what ever the rounded up value is) on my wireless card. The mode is set to "G only" on the router and under advanced all settings are at the "factory" values. Do I need to change something on the router?
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2005-Dec-13 10:43 am
said by pende_tim:I did tweak the RWIN up to 64k (or what ever the rounded up value is) on my wireless card. Make it 192720 for the RWIN. 64k is too low. Other then the MTU, you shouldn't need to change anything on the router end, and that should be defaulting to 1500 anyway. After you use DrTCP to change the RWIN, reboot and run a tweak test and post the URL of the results page. |
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Just to play devil's advocate here...
Maybe tdoran is referring to the utilization of VPN throughput when a device acts as a VPN endpoint. Most mid-range business class Firewalls can do this, including some Linksys products (none of the WRT routers can though to my knowledge).
Anyway, overall throughput in this scenario is drastically affected. Not because the physical interface can't handle the bandwidth but because the device has a cpu that is inadequate or lacks the memory to perform the operation on this cpu/memory intense task.
But like most of you have pointed out, this isn't something that the average home user needs or possesses the technical prowess to configure. |
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2005-Dec-13 11:09 am
I VPN from home to work using Cisco's VPN solution. I don't VPN into home but use » www.logmein.com for that if I need it. I get full speed (wireless or wired) on my 15mb FIOS connection even with VPN active. Since it uses split tunneling I can't (unless there's a trick I'm not aware of) send the speed tests through the VPN tunnel as only corporate traffic goes over it. I could look to modify the subnets that signify what is "corporate" traffic and test throughput through my VPN tunnel. |
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said by GeekNJ:I VPN from home to work using Cisco's VPN solution... I get full speed (wireless or wired) on my 15mb FIOS connection even with VPN active...I could look to modify the subnets that signify what is "corporate" traffic and test throughput through my VPN tunnel. What is your point? Just for clarification... my point wasn't that your WRT device couldn't handle its feature set or simple packet switching at 15/30 Mbs, in fact I know that it can. My intention was to demonstrate that if the WRT could perform the function of a VPN end point, which it can't (aka VPN concentrator) that it would be woefully inadequate. Anyway... When you're connecting to your corporate VPN using the Cisco VPN client your host PC and the Cisco device on the other end are doing all of the heavy lifting. When an end point is used only one side is required to use VPN software (if both are end points no software is required) and the end point handles encryption on its side etc. Basically if you're using VPN software your router isn't doing anything special. |
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2005-Dec-14 9:17 am
Why are you asking me what MY point is? You are playing devil's advocate to who? To tdoran or to everyone else that isn't looking for a VPN endpoint at home? |
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The WRT54g is "fine" if you do not want any security, or can live with about 10Mbps throughput which is maximum with all security function/features enabled. Not suiteable for 15Mbps or higher broadband connections.
Tim Tim that is why with my wrt54g router I am getting on average 28 mbps download with optimum boost. But you say 15 is max right.... |
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said by GeekNJ:Why are you asking me what MY point is? You are playing devil's advocate to who? To tdoran or to everyone else that isn't looking for a VPN endpoint at home? I was playing devil's advocate to tdorans implication that the WRT54G is not suitable at 30Mbs. Yes it will work (but not in every situation), yes he mentioned an enterprise class router, yes most people won't use VPN but there are some who will. Knowing this I offered up a circumstance where the WRT54G will not suffice, but I did so only to educate others. I asked you your point because you replied to the topic with what seemed to be a defense to my comment, but your defense made no sense. If it wasn't directed at me, then my apologies but learn the difference between the "Post reply" and "Topic reply" buttons. Have a good day. |
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on the linksys bef w11s5-v4 Internet Connection Type Obtain an IP automaticallyStatic IPPPPoERAS (for SingTel)PPTPHeart Beat SignalL2TP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Optional Settings (required by some ISPs) Host Name: Domain Name: MTU: Enable Disable Size: 1500 Speed & Duplex: 10 Mb Full10 Mb Half100 Mb Full100 Mb HalfAuto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and i get close to full speed whit it. » /speed ··· 735681/1Firmware Version: 1.52.02 Setup Wireless-B Broadband Router BEFW11S4 Setup Wireless Security Applications & Gaming Administration Status Basic Setup raquo;/speedtests/91···34735681 |
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Sano614 join:2005-12-06 Lindenhurst, NY |
Does anyone know what wireless router FIOS is installing with their service? Cause I'm sure that router can handle all their speed's, so I might just get that one... |
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2005-Dec-16 9:05 am
said by Sano614:Does anyone know what wireless router FIOS is installing with their service? The Dlink DI-624 last I was aware. It might be called the VDI-624 for Verizon version. I don't know if there's tweaks for speed or some other reason. |
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I have the same Linksys and am running Boost 30/2. No bottlenecks, seems to be just fine. |
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2005-Dec-16 11:50 am
Which Linksys? |
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the blue one with a 100mbps wan port. some come with optional sling shot mounts. |
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Im considering purchasing the D-Link DGL4300 as i have a laptop used by my mother and 2 desktops my brother and I use.
Im curious if i could obtain full download speeds (i have boost) and my netgear WGT624 significantly cuts down those speeds on both the wired and wireless side. |
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As of now, I know I have to get a new modem. I am still on the ancient Motorola SurfBoard SB4100 I bought 5 years ago. Anyone know any good modems for OOL regular or boost? What about the Motorola SB5100/5120?
Also, does anyone know if my Linksys BEFSR41 router is compatible with boost? |
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RickNY Premium Member join:2000-11-02 Farmingville, NY |
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2005-Dec-18 10:31 pm
said by shadow0290: Anyone know any good modems for OOL regular or boost? What about the Motorola SB5100/5120? The 5100/5120 is fine.. Bring your 4100 down to your walk-in center and trade it in for one of them.. You'll own the new modem. |
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said by shadow0290:As of now, I know I have to get a new modem. I am still on the ancient Motorola SurfBoard SB4100 I bought 5 years ago. Anyone know any good modems for OOL regular or boost? What about the Motorola SB5100/5120? Also, does anyone know if my Linksys BEFSR41 router is compatible with boost? The BEFSR41 should be ok as it has a 10/100 WAN Port, however, may not be the best if its a fairly old version. I just upgraded to boost and had to get a new modem. Went to CV and they gave me a motorola SBV5120 (I previously had my own modem - a Linksys BEFCMU10 V2 which was not compatible, although newer versions 3 and up should be as they are docsis 2.0 compliant). However, I got the Motorola free from CV and it has the VOIP Built-in (wound up adding optimum voice as well). For a router, I am running a Linksys WRT54G V1.1 (fairly old version) and its pretty good (Getting as much as 27.5 down and about 2 up on the nose wired to it and about 19 down and 2+ up wireless). I do eventually plan on getting one of the new SRX models, but no need to rush out. I would suggest trying the BEFSR41 first and, if unsatisfactory, you could always get a newer version of the WRT54G for pretty cheap (probably around $50 any given week) if money is an issue. |
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msantaATT U-verse join:2005-05-30 Pompano Beach, FL |
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2005-Dec-19 2:14 pm
When I got OOL Boost last Wednesday I purchased the NetGear WPN824, which did not work very well with my network, went back to CompUSA and replaced it with a Linksys wrt54gx2 and it is working really good. I may have to replace the old Dell TrueMobile 1150 on my laptop because I only get 11Mbps. Linksys is good choice! |
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