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kamm
join:2001-02-14
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Re: Is it rehash Thursday ?

said by noone1:

said by bmn:

The US GDP might be high right now, but beware... America's ability to outproduce may very well suffer in the future if the country's last mile networks stay at their current subpar level. Not that its a bad thing, but its something to keep in mind.
Do you have any studies or proof to back this up? Please provide evidence to this, white papers, publications, peer reviewed journals, anything?
Then compare this to the next generation communications that are rolling out right now and their impact on "last mile" penetration. (EVDO, 1/2/3xRTT, Fios)
ROFL, EVDO as somthing advanced thing? LOL... Compare it to Europe: even former Commie countries have similar speeds available for long time - in some you can already order 10-20Mbit ADSL2+ or cable connections, unlike here.

Generally speaking US is clearly behind most of the developed world (ie West EU, Japan, Korea) - if somebody don't see this, he's living in denial. : we have an awkward, anti-competitive monopoly in most of the US markets and that's why we are waaaay behind.
Heck, there's no other country where a corporation would dare to try to openly block muni developments, not to mention no state legislation would block competition by law... and let's not get into the totally rotten and corrupt big business-employee, the FCC's actions...
Then balance that versus the US population density per square kilometer against the target countries.
I await your response.
This is probably the most ridiculous excuse and pro-corporate, pro-monopoly guys love to post it.
To shortly rebuke this idiocy, two things:
1. according to 2004 census daTA, over 80% of US population live in metropolitan areas which are the perfect places for en masse broadband deployment
2. look at Canada

I await your response... FYI: I expect you to prove me somehow magically that 80% already have *real* broadband (real = not the artifically inflated, laughable broadband definition of FCC)
Edit: Sorry to single you out amongst the many who are claiming basically the same thing.
Sorry to single you out amongst the many who are claiming basically the same false crap.
noone1
join:2004-06-04
Nashua, NH

noone1

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said by kamm:

Sorry to single you out amongst the many who are claiming basically the same false crap.
Do you have any studies or proof to back this up? Please provide evidence to this, white papers, publications, peer reviewed journals, anything?
Show me how we are falling behind as a result of this and not conjecture.

kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

kamm

Member

said by noone1:

said by kamm:

Sorry to single you out amongst the many who are claiming basically the same false crap.
Do you have any studies or proof to back this up? Please provide evidence to this, white papers, publications, peer reviewed journals, anything?
Show me how we are falling behind as a result of this and not conjecture.
Umm WTF are we talking about, seriously? Go and search for available services in Japan, Korea, France, Sweden, Holland, UK, Germany or even Hungary or Poland.
It's not rocket science, no need for "whitepaper" and "peer reviewed journals" (What an idiocy: 'peer review" on actual service offerings! ROFL!) - if you weren't kidding, then obviously you have zero knowledge on this industry.
Apparently you're not only ignorant on this particular subject but also too lazy to do a search, right? :P :P
noone1
join:2004-06-04
Nashua, NH

noone1

Member

said by kamm:

said by noone1:

said by kamm:

Sorry to single you out amongst the many who are claiming basically the same false crap.
Do you have any studies or proof to back this up? Please provide evidence to this, white papers, publications, peer reviewed journals, anything?
Show me how we are falling behind as a result of this and not conjecture.
Umm WTF are we talking about, seriously? Go and search for available services in Japan, Korea, France, Sweden, Holland, UK, Germany or even Hungary or Poland.
It's not rocket science, no need for "whitepaper" and "peer reviewed journals" (What an idiocy: 'peer review" on actual service offerings! ROFL!) - if you weren't kidding, then obviously you have zero knowledge on this industry.
Apparently you're not only ignorant on this particular subject but also too lazy to do a search, right? :P :P
said by bmn:

The US GDP might be high right now, but beware... America's ability to outproduce may very well suffer in the future if the country's last mile networks stay at their current subpar level. Not that its a bad thing, but its something to keep in mind.
This is the original post in this part of the thread that I was responding to.
I never contended that service offerings were different.
Why dont you actually take the time to read before pressing the reply button.
My contention is no one knows just how much (or little) any differences in network accessibility is hurting (or not) the US. I see many making conjecture but nothing more. It is easy to scream the sky is falling, is it, how much, what truly are the implications.
said by kamm:

Umm WTF are we talking about, seriously?
Try reading, its not rocket science.