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Jodokast96
Stupid people piss me off.
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join:2005-11-23
NJ

Jodokast96 to Middieman

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Re: Not black and white

Gee, I'd hate to live in your neighborhood if your gonna call the cops cause a kid leaves his bike there. Do you call the National Guard for an actual break in?

By your thinking, I should call the cops and report a neighbor as trespassing because their Wi-Fi signals are "where they shouldn't be"? Should the police "impound" (secure) their network? Gee that would solve the problem wouldn't it?

None of that was the point I was trying to make, but I'm glad you pointed that out because it just goes to show that none of this is clear cut, and really both parties are at fault. What I was trying to say was fine, there's a bike there. Not hurting anyone, I'll leave it alone. If it's left there for a month or whatever (just as that signal is left there), am I a thief for using the bike? Technically, yes I am: I used property that wasn't mine without permission. Would I be convicted in a court of law: no way, not for just using it, only unless I refused to return it. Why, because it shouldn't have been left there in the first place. Just as the signal shouldn't have been left there. Everybody is guilty of something in a case like this. My overall point was THERE NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD SET!

Middieman
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join:2001-02-05
Elkins Park, PA

Middieman

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quote:
By your thinking, I should call the cops and report a neighbor as trespassing because their Wi-Fi signals are "where they shouldn't be"? Should the police "impound" (secure) their network? Gee that would solve the problem wouldn't it?
No, I was talking about your analogy that I said didn't relate very well.

Probably not the only problem with that one is that you are very aware that you did not purchase the bike that you decided to ride. It has nothing to do with an open network that is doing nothing else but asking to be accessed.

But I did think of something else from another person's response:

A poster came up with the idea of a notification of some sort about not accessing a network. Notify people that you do not want them using your network, and it's hands off.

-=[Middie]=-

Jodokast96
Stupid people piss me off.
Premium Member
join:2005-11-23
NJ

Jodokast96

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said by Middieman:

But I did think of something else from another person's response:

A poster came up with the idea of a notification of some sort about not accessing a network. Notify people that you do not want them using your network, and it's hands off.
Agree 100%. As to the rest of your reply, just a basic misunderstanding. No harm, no foul.

Chicago_DSL6
join:2003-08-04
South Elgin, IL

Chicago_DSL6 to Jodokast96

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Yeah, arrest the people that don't secure WIFI routers because they help support terrorism, kiddie porn, illegal distribution of copyrighted materials, and on and on...

Connecting to an open WIFI connection must be illegal, I read it somewhere on the internet, it has to be true!

If people should not be allowed to connect to anyone's open WIFI signal, then they should clearly put out a sign that says "DO NOT ACCESS", and I do not care how the sign is made or where it is displayed, however I am not a sucking mind reader and the law is completely unclear about the "true" legality of this. Any lawyers wanna comment, I would like to hear more than opinions as this point, some insight and logic might be more appropriate.
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