http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070219 en Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:11:14 EDT Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:11:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16077081
The phone companies were forced to "open up" their networks. Ask anyone who has ever sold ADSL or SDSL how open it is. You can usually find them in other industries now. When was the last time you heard/saw an ad for an internet service provider besides a telco or a cable company? Can you name a local ISP in your town? Can you name an ISP in the US besides AOL and earthlink?

The 10 BILLION dollars that they are going to spend is money YOU GAVE THEM AS A TAX PAYER!!!!! Look at your phone bill and when you see "rural such and such fee" that is money they take from you over the last 10 years, regardless of if you have internet access or not, to build out their networks. Check this out »www.techdirt.com/article ··· _F.shtml

How do they do that? Lobbyist money. They go to their buddy in the senator, give him 3 million dollars and say, "you know, if everyone in America gave us $2.50 per month, we could really build out a cool network alot faster." Then legislation is passed so that the poor telcos have to collect an extra $2.50 per month from every American on their phone bill. That money does not go to the government, it stays with the telco. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16077081 Thu, 11 May 2006 16:35:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16076216
Verizon broadband is a sub company of verizon themselves. Verizon owns the pipes. Verizon on line leases them from verizon and every other provider can lease them from verizon to.

Verizon's complaint was they were being forced to sell the lines to competitors for cheaper then it was charging its own sub company.

Kind of weird eh ?

And on the Walmart part blame yourself and all your friends who want more money in their pocket for other things like the huge escalades. People are so short sighted to blame the company when in all reality it is us the people who are greedy and wanting more for less.

Walmart and others feed a need , a need for cheap goods. If the need was gone so would Walmart be. But greed stops that from happening. Don't be so holy. You cant blame people in a GLOBAL market for driving a local business under.

Don't like it you and all your friends start buying from local shops. Can you do it ? Can they do it ? I know I tried and it made a huge difference at the end of a month.
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I can get that $15 unbundled (makes it more like $29 after adding dialtone).

Cable HSI starts at $42.95 (+taxes/fees) bundled and goes up to $56.95 unbundled.

I need reliability/consistancy more than 6 or 8Mbps.
Don't forget, if yopu don't have their cable service, they will add more to your broadband bill. Well, that's what Comcrap does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16073885 Thu, 11 May 2006 07:39:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072855 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072855 Wed, 10 May 2006 23:59:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072837 Reg VZ DSL in my area 29.95 for 3/768, which is comparable to the cable in the area 4/256, go figure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072837 Wed, 10 May 2006 23:57:49 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072785
Cable HSI starts at $42.95 (+taxes/fees) bundled and goes up to $56.95 unbundled.

I need reliability/consistancy more than 6 or 8Mbps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072785 Wed, 10 May 2006 23:48:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16072484 said by T1 Rocky:

HELL NO!
Are we all freekin idiots? The monopoly is restored. Verizon has funneled $90 million into lobbyists over the last 5 years. Let me say it again - 90 MILLION FREEKIN DOLLARS!!!!!! Do you think that those dollars went towards encouraging competition?

The short term is that we save money while AT&T/Verizon etc pummel the cable companies for the next 2 years. Then when they have wiped out that industry, where's the competition? Then what happens to prices?

In 3 years your going to be posting in this same forum asking, "how come my internet bill to AT&T is $200 per month?"

Stick with the cable companies! Pay now or pay alot more later. The ILECS have wiped out ALL competition in ISP, SDSL and ADSL markets. All that is left are the cable companies, satelite and hundereds of very smail wireless internet providers.
Don't expect an UNBIASED news story from this site.

I posted this earlier today:
»www.cedmagazine.com/arti ··· 193.html

Connecticut has crumbled to AT&T lobbying efforts. IPTV is now classified as a data service. The Cable company is crippled now in Connecticut. Just a matter of time before the same classification hits all your states.

The "Pundits" here, don't consider this a newsworthy article.

I think I will stop posting here. Forever. Karl and Justin are in bed with SBC/AT&T/Verizon and Qwest.

Bullshit walks dudes. Bias doesn't cut it. But hey....it's you're site.
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The Telcos own a lot of the broadband pipe for the internet and have the most hubs (switching stations) where the public telephone lines are connected from other providers wanting to run phone service. The Telcos charge fees for the use of these hubs and charge ISP's for the use of there broadband pipes. So they have a unfair advantage here. They don't have to pay any of these fees.

It's just like Walmart when they come to town. They price there stores so low, with cheap goods they contract someone in China to make for them via cheap labor. The small retail store doesn't have that buying power like Wally-world has. So the mom & pop store can't survive and a whole community watches the local businesses fold up like domino's.

I love reading about townships that won't allow Walmart to set up shop. These folks in these little towns are preserving and protecting the true real American economy. And that's the small business man, people.

Just another red-lined Americans two cents, that's all.

My Quote for the day: "From the poor white trailer parks trash, to the welfare infested Ghetto's......Let FIOS freedom ring!" -----> "NOT!"
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-Rach]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16071286 Wed, 10 May 2006 19:53:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070535 said by T1 Rocky:

HELL NO!
The short term is that we save money while AT&T/Verizon etc pummel the cable companies for the next 2 years. Then when they have wiped out that industry, where's the competition? Then what happens to prices?

Stick with the cable companies! Pay now or pay alot more later. The ILECS have wiped out ALL competition in ISP, SDSL and ADSL markets. All that is left are the cable companies, satelite and hundereds of very smail wireless internet providers.
So what are you saying, we should all stick with cable so that the telcos disappear and in the process forming a monopoly of their own? That is basically what you are suggesting should happen.

This is what competition is. Multiple companies vying for the consumer's dollar. Verizon is funneling tons of money into FIOS which is really no different than cable, i.e. their own private pipe. I could say the same of Comcast, "Why is my internet bill now $200 per month instead of the $45 I was paying before" can I not?

Its capitalism. The problem comes in when everything starts getting regulaated to death by those who are on the take and don't know anything about what is going on, translation - politicians.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070535 Wed, 10 May 2006 17:56:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070475 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070475 Wed, 10 May 2006 17:47:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070424 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070424 Wed, 10 May 2006 17:40:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070396 Are we all freekin idiots? The monopoly is restored. Verizon has funneled $90 million into lobbyists over the last 5 years. Let me say it again - 90 MILLION FREEKIN DOLLARS!!!!!! Do you think that those dollars went towards encouraging competition?

The short term is that we save money while AT&T/Verizon etc pummel the cable companies for the next 2 years. Then when they have wiped out that industry, where's the competition? Then what happens to prices?

In 3 years your going to be posting in this same forum asking, "how come my internet bill to AT&T is $200 per month?"

Stick with the cable companies! Pay now or pay alot more later. The ILECS have wiped out ALL competition in ISP, SDSL and ADSL markets. All that is left are the cable companies, satelite and hundereds of very smail wireless internet providers. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070396 Wed, 10 May 2006 17:37:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lower-prices-16070338
But the only way I'd go back to DSL is if I could get a naked pair and not be raped for it. I've had no use for a home phone in over 4 years.
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