http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XBox-16857742 en Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:18:11 EDT Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:18:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16871031 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16871031 Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:49:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16862531
The act of interlacing video is not difficult nor process-intensive, but the reverse is also true: to deinterlace and interlaced frame it is very process-intensive in order to not lose information, or cause deinterlacing anomalies (artifacts).

A lot of manufacturers cheap their way out of deinterlacing by simply throwing away one of the fields in each frame thereby leaving a progressive frame of half the resolution. They then simply line-double this and call it the progressive original resolution. Those people should be shot, IMO.

As video codecs get more and more efficient at compressing video, the task of deinterlacing get's even more difficult. Why? Because, you can only scale a progressive frame, which means deinterlacing comes first. The next part is that deinterlacing must be done in the uncompressed world, and not while compressed in a cozy MPEG-2/4 codec.

The Microsoft Xbox 360 cannot do 1080P, but then again neither can any of the currently available HD DVD players either even though their movies are mastered-to-the disk as 1080P. But the 360 is worse as its mother doesn't believe in anything beyond 720P at this time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16862531 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:13:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16862032 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16862032 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:25:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859676 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859676 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:36:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858427 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858427 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:08:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859294 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859294 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:32:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859269 said by maartena:

Does XBox 360 even have 1080p games?
Consdiering the 360 is not capable of displaying 1080p I'd say no. 360 games use the same old DVD technology that the XBOX and PS2 use so how can it show games in high def? Blu-ray/HD-DVD is new technology so in 2 or 3 years when the full potentional of those 50 GB Blu-ray discs are realized the PS3 will show why it is vastly superior to the 360. How far can games go with regular DVDs that hold 9 GB at most? Unless omeone comes up with a deca-layer DVD format.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859269 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:28:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859125
Which is probably the main reason that no one is releasing any 1080p games at launch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16859125 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:11:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858792 said by inteller:

look back at the original statment. user said that 1080i could be upconverted to 1080p No comment was made about the original source material. I'm not going to ASSUME that the originating signal is carrying 1080/24f.

again 1080i != to 1080p

I stand corrected, if it's being upconverted then it's not the same. If the source material is being deinterlaced at half the speed, then we're all good.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858792 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:26:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858701 said by 53059959:

why does sony care so much about performance? I thought the reason ppl liked ps1 and ps2 wasnt because of its screaming performance, but because it had lots of good games.
That's a good question. For some reason Sony believes in a different destiny these days. Meanwhile, Nintendo DS games are still topping the charts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858701 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:12:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858562 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858562 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:52:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858423 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858423 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:27:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858270
also, do you really want to play a game at 24fps? I know I dont. 30 is just barely acceptable.
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What film-based content next-gen game do you know that will run at 24 fps?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858252 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:55:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858236 The bigger issue is SONY backing off some of the BS they were spouting when the 360 was launching, dont fault for it, trying to keep people waiting for the PS3 to come around. If you just today decided you wanted a PS3, you wont get one til next Spring...be-lee-dat.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858236 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:52:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858219
again 1080i != to 1080p

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geez, I just love PS3 fanboy rationalization.

upconverted 1080i != 1080p
Actually it is: 1080i film-based content can become true 1080p

The following examples refer to content that is encoded in progressive-scan form during recording or transmission—what would be considered "native" progressive signals. However, where 24 fps film-based material is concerned, a 1080i encoded/transmitted stream can become a true "1080p" signal during playback by deinterlacing to re-combine the split field pairs into their original progressive film-scanned frames. Regarding 24 fps film-source material presented in conventional 1080i60 form, the deinterlacing process that achieves this goal is usually referred to as "3-2 pulldown reversal". The importance of this is that, where film-based content is concerned, all 1080-interlaced signals are potentially 1080p signals given the proper deinterlacing. As long as no additional image-degradation steps were applied during signal mastering (such as excessive vertical-pass filtering), the image from a properly deinterlaced film-source 1080i signal and a native-encoded 1080p signal will look exactly the same. As more and more processors and displays come to market able to apply 3-2 pulldown reversal to film-based 1080i60 signals, the amount of available "1080p" content for viewing expands (encompassing film-based 1080i60 feeds from broadcast HD, cable, and satellite).

Source: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

If it's outputting 1080i/60, then it can becomes 1080p/30.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858118 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:31:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBox-16858073
upconverted 1080i != 1080p
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