Topic 'Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300' in forum 'ZyXEL' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444386 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:41:50 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:41:50 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17506281
-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17506281 Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:40:36 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17490666
As for the lack of firmware updates, I think of 2 reasons for this; 1. As you said, this may be a dead product. 2. They got it working properly from the beginning and updates where simply not needed.

Haven't found much bad news about this router, so I'm kinda compelled to go with number 2. =)

Guess I'll find out... ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17490666 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:58:59 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17467404
Everything is faster. Access to my NAS box, RAID 5 server, internet, email, Secureclient tunnels, exchange access via RDP (which doesn't seem to hang as bad now upon disconnect), etc...

So far, so good!

Took a while to get it all right. This router has a TON of settings in it.

One that tripped me up a bit was the IP/Sec Pass-Thru for my SecureClient tunnel into the office. With IP/Sec Pass-Thru enabled, I could authenticate to RADIUS, but then the tunnel would fail to initialize.

I dug through the docs a bit, and apparantly (at least with DLink's implementation), if your VPN Client/System supports NAT Traversal, you have to actually turn this option OFF.

SecureClient must support NAT Traversal because as soon as I turned off IP/Sec Pass-Thru, I was able to log in successfully.

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17467404 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:52:56 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17466687
I just did a basic install, and went over to speakeasy to do a test:

Download Speed: 27437 kbps (3429.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2150 kbps (268.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

I picked up 4mb/sec just by replacing the router.

So far, I'm quite happy :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17466687 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:40:14 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17461857
That 30mb/sec is in line with Zyxel's 24mbit rating. I suspect they are just under promising a bit here to give them some headroom.

As for the download speeds, I can in fact use every bit of the 25mbit/sec pipe I have, and more if I decide to buy it, due to the number of things I have going on at one time. Most of the corporate downloads I do from the office servers can easily provide those speeds to me.

I was part of the Vista CPP, and when I downloaded the ISO I saw transfer rates of 2.89MB/sec if I recall correctly. I don't care who you are, that's cool :)

I also had a report from another person who installed one on a 100mbit line, and they had no problems getting 85mbit/sec thru-put from the DGL-4300.

I'll know more tomorrow as long as UPS does it's job :)

-Larry

said by bbarrera:

I'm fairly certain everyone here is aware of reviews at Tom's Networking:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· -charts/

The results should be repeatable. The DGL-4300 and X-550 clock in around 90Mbps for WAN-LAN throughput, and Zywall 2Plus measures around 55Mbps. Click around and you'll see different numbers for LAN-WAN throughput and Total Simultaneous throughput.

Here are test results from a forum member, the 'firewall off' numbers for Zywall 2 Plus are about 50Mbps (agree with SmallNetBuilder) and the 'firewall on' numbers are about 30Mbps:
»ZyWALL 2 Plus: Throughput Tests

I had no problems getting 20Mbps downloads and 30Mbps uploads with Zywall 2 Plus on my fiber Internet connection. Its not easy to pull those numbers, most downloads are throttled and even many uploads to mail servers are throttled. It is the rare treat to get a download server that dishes out >10Mbps. On the other hand it is easy to hit the max up/down with a popular torrent file (but don't be surprised with slow downloads with unpopular torrents).
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17461857 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:58:25 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17458472 »www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· -charts/

The results should be repeatable. The DGL-4300 and X-550 clock in around 90Mbps for WAN-LAN throughput, and Zywall 2Plus measures around 55Mbps. Click around and you'll see different numbers for LAN-WAN throughput and Total Simultaneous throughput.

Here are test results from a forum member, the 'firewall off' numbers for Zywall 2 Plus are about 50Mbps (agree with SmallNetBuilder) and the 'firewall on' numbers are about 30Mbps:
»ZyWALL 2 Plus: Throughput Tests

I had no problems getting 20Mbps downloads and 30Mbps uploads with Zywall 2 Plus on my fiber Internet connection. Its not easy to pull those numbers, most downloads are throttled and even many uploads to mail servers are throttled. It is the rare treat to get a download server that dishes out >10Mbps. On the other hand it is easy to hit the max up/down with a popular torrent file (but don't be surprised with slow downloads with unpopular torrents).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17458472 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:44:47 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17458383
I'm not entirely sure how to do that, though :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17458383 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:25:02 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17454438 said by TechLarry:

Once it's all set up, I'll let you know how it goes.
Try setting it up with 2 local LANS - one on the WAN port, one on the LAN side. Hook up 1 PC on each side of the router and run some FTP tests between them. Let us know if you really see 90 mbit/sec throughput or anything close. I'm not overly skeptical, but would like to know how well it does.
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." - Albert Einstein ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17454438 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:04:48 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451837
I just pulled the trigger on a DGL-4300.

90mbit thru-put.
Decent Firewall.
Decent Wireless G.
Gigabit ports.
Overall excellent reviews.

And it was all of $97.

Once it's all set up, I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks for everyone's help!

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451837 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:07:05 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451822 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451822 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:04:20 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451696
Yeah, I've read the stories. And they are probably true, but it's not professional hackers I'm worried about. They'll get in anyway.

-Larry

said by Anav:

Macfiltering is useless for security as is hiding essid.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451696 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:39:37 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451686
The rep was just as confused as us by the specs, so he went back to engineering and asked them.

They told him it was 24mbit/sec, VPN or not. They said the reason for this was the VPN uses a co-processor that can allow it to use all the available bandwidth the router can pass.

If this is correct, I'm afraid the Zywall 2 plus is out for me :(

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451686 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:38:04 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451538 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451538 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:13:00 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451327
Unless my Golden Retrievers or Siamese Cat get all techy on me all of a sudden, I don't have this issue :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451327 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:36:59 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451310 The 2 Plus does not have Wireless. MAC filtering is usually used for wireless connections, and the WAP that's attached should have the required MAC filtering capabilties.

I have two WAPs with MAC filtering. But, to block my kids and their friends from connecting their laptops to our wired LAN (at least without my approval), I think the feature is just as deisrable on a wired LAN as WLAN.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451310 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:34:38 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451254
The 2 Plus does not have Wireless. MAC filtering is usually used for wireless connections, and the WAP that's attached should have the required MAC filtering capabilties.

DOH!

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451254 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:23:10 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451251 said by TechLarry:

The thru-put numbers still confuse me. It has a high rating for one packet size. The rest are only average.
This is true for *ALL* routers. All the NAT+Firewall processing is directed at the header of each packet. Therefore, it doesn't really matter whether the packet is 64 bytes or 1500 bytes because both will take the same amount of time to have their headers processed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451251 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:22:46 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451241
I pay quite a bit for a 15mbit/2mbit cable connection. It actually provides me just under 25mbit downlink (I ain't complaining :) and I need every bit of it.

At any one time, I have a SecureClient pass-through tunnel running, and also several VNC connections running (some through the Secureclient tunnel, others not via reverse-VNC).

At the same time my phone is all VOIP, and I service call system up and running as well as a connection to an exchange server, corporate IM system, etc...

And I only see loads on the bandwidth increasing in the future, thus the need to make sure I'm future-proof up to at least 30mbit.

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451241 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:21:06 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451230
That's my current understanding, but I'm new to the Zywall products just as of October, so I'm still learning and could be wrong. Perhpas someone else has different knowledge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451230 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:18:37 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451180
Firmware 1.7 ¤ NAT endpoint filtering enabled.
¤ Removed references to 11n mode under WEP in the Basic Wireless Page as well as the Help file. 11/6/2006

I could have swore 3 days ago that entry wasn't there, and the latest entry was the 1.6 released in January.

That improves my vision of the remaining lifespan of the router a bit.

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451180 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:10:02 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451171
No MAC Address Filtering in the Zywall2 plus? Wow. That sure seems like an obvious omission to me. The cheapest routers you can buy have MAC filtering. I also use it to allow only certain machine's access.

If only someone here actually had a 2 Plus with a really high-speed connection that could verify the thru-put capabilities.

I may make a call to Zyxel today. Gives me a chance to test their tech support :)

-Larry

said by ZyHope:

Larry,
I was in exactly the same boat, considering the DGL-4x00 series verses the Zywall 2+ ... so maybe I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I too, don't have immediate need for VPN, just VPN pass through. And, my throughput need was on the order of 20 Mbps. However, I'm not a big gamer ... so a lot of the advertised features of the DGL-4x00 series weren't as important to me.

You are correct that the DGL-4x00 hasn't seen a firmware update in almost a year now, but in the UK they have release a 1.7 firmware this past October. There is significant discussion in the forums as to when or even if this will be released for US products

For me, the Zywall 2+ won out because I was more interested in security features:
- separate the wireless LAN through the firewall from the wired LAN.
- while the DGL-4x00 series added content filtering the last firmware release, 1.6 (see release notes for firmware), it is significantly limited in the number of categoies and still in somewhat of a 'beta' stage ... at least compared to Blue Coat.

For the Zywall 2+, I also liked how they implmented QoS and bandwidth management.

One thing I would have liked to have seen in the Zywall, that the DGL-4x00 does have, is MAC address filtering. In my home network, I know the MAC address of every single device, so I'd like to have the option of excluding connection to the network for any MAC that does not match a predefined list of known MACs.

Just some thoughts ... maybe they help.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17451171 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:07:16 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450972 I was in exactly the same boat, considering the DGL-4x00 series verses the Zywall 2+ ... so maybe I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I too, don't have immediate need for VPN, just VPN pass through. And, my throughput need was on the order of 20 Mbps. However, I'm not a big gamer ... so a lot of the advertised features of the DGL-4x00 series weren't as important to me.

You are correct that the DGL-4x00 hasn't seen a firmware update in almost a year now, but in the UK they have release a 1.7 firmware this past October. There is significant discussion in the forums as to when or even if this will be released for US products

For me, the Zywall 2+ won out because I was more interested in security features:
- separate the wireless LAN through the firewall from the wired LAN.
- while the DGL-4x00 series added content filtering the last firmware release, 1.6 (see release notes for firmware), it is significantly limited in the number of categoies and still in somewhat of a 'beta' stage ... at least compared to Blue Coat.

For the Zywall 2+, I also liked how they implmented QoS and bandwidth management.

One thing I would have liked to have seen in the Zywall, that the DGL-4x00 does have, is MAC address filtering. In my home network, I know the MAC address of every single device, so I'd like to have the option of excluding connection to the network for any MAC that does not match a predefined list of known MACs.

Just some thoughts ... maybe they help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450972 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:26:17 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450131
It has almost TOO much information though :)

The thru-put numbers still confuse me. It has a high rating for one packet size. The rest are only average.

If I read it right.

I read a response elsewhere where one has a DGL-4300 on a 100mbit connection, and it is passing 85mbit/sec at a minimum (off-router tests were not done, so actual pipe not verified to be above 85mbit/sec).

Hmmm....

This is really hard :)

-Larry

said by nanobug:

said by TechLarry:

Where did the 70mbps number come from?
ZyXEL Security Handbook, page 92? :)

»www.zyxel.de/upload/info ··· 2006.pdf
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450131 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:36:39 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450116 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17450116 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:31:36 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17449140 said by TechLarry:

Where did the 70mbps number come from?ZyXEL Security Handbook, page 92? :)

»www.zyxel.de/upload/info ··· 2006.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17449140 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:03:00 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17447579 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17447579 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:43:57 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446569
Where did the 70mbps number come from? That's a new one...

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446569 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:58:51 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446415 said by TechLarry:

We may have just leaned towards the DGL-4300.Why would that be? Isn't the ZyWALL 2 Plus still faster at 70Mbps maximum throughput?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446415 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:33:11 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446404 said by Anav:

I looked and on pg 88 (table) it states the 2Plus has 24Mbps with firewall on and the zywall 5 rated at 60Mbps with firewall on.To me, pag. 88 smells like "marketing" while pag. 92 smells like "real world facts" :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446404 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:29:58 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446289
I never could find a pure Lan-To-Wan Firewall number. The 50mbit combined number I got from the tests at Toms Networking.

We may have just leaned towards the DGL-4300.

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17446289 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:09:53 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17445487
Now Im pretty sure the zywall 5 figure is an additive 2way number and thus still is around 30Mbps one way. The ZyWALL 2 Plus is a later product and is designed to ADSL2+ capable and thus I suspect the 24Mbps is a more accurate one way number.
Any other perspective/info welcome.

I did note the later test tables (pg 92) which tend to show the Z2plus as having greater throughput so the previous table may have been based on the zywall 5 pre-UTM????

All to say, I is confewsed.
--
Ain't nuthin but the blues! "Albert Collins".
Leave your troubles at the door! "Pepe Peregil" De Sevilla. Just Don't Wifi without WPA, "Yul Brenner"

LlamaWorks Equipment]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17445487 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:10:24 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444985 said by Anav:

You would need a ZyWALL 5 to ensure your ready for FIOS 30Mbps.According to the ZyXEL Security Handbook (page 92), the ZyWALL 2 Plus is actually a little bit faster than the ZyWALL 5:

»www.zyxel.de/upload/info ··· 2006.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444985 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:46:34 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444881 You would need a ZyWALL 5 to ensure your ready for FIOS 30Mbps. seems both z2plus or z5 will do the job.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444881 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:28:39 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444640
Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention...

I don't have any problems going to a separate WAP. These days, it's probably better anyway.

What I was going to do until the whole 802.11n thing shakes out is take the Linksys WRT54GS, put it in Router mode, and turn off the DHCP server, thus turning it into a WAP. At least I think that's what I would need to do.

That will carry me over until 802.11n is firm.

One other thing. I know the DGL-4300 can handle my Cable Connection ok, as it is shown as the second fastest product available for Wan-Lan thru-put in the TomsHardware charts, and verified by other tests I've seen.

I'm not entirely sure about the Zywall 2 Plus. The specs are a bit confusing at Zyxel. It says 24mbit, but I think that is VPN performance, which isn't nearly as important to me as Firewall Wan-Lan performance. The TNW chart shows it as aroudn 50mbit.

I really need to be sure about this part. My current connection provides me around 24mbit/sec, and the WRT54GS can handle that. The TNW chart shows it taps out around 34mbit/sec.

I may move to a 30mbit FIOS connection next year if the prices drop. I need to make sure the router won't choke on it.

Thanks :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444640 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:48:12 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444629
However, my QNAP TS-201 NAS Box does have a Bit-torrent engine in it. I don't use it much, but sometimes I do download large files with it, mainly archives of Guitar Tabs and such, so it will need to work.

I guess I should also mention the QNAP has the FTP Server and Media Server (TwonkyMedia)I use occasionally.

Thanks :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444629 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:46:32 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444456 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444456 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:14:46 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444440 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444440 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:11:49 EDT Re: Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444426
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· 13.html/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444426 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:09:21 EDT Zywall 2 Plus or DLink DGL-4300 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444386
I currently have a Linksys WRT54GS which has been a wonderful router, with excellent performance.

But, it is now 3 years old, and since my livelyhood depends on my network I want to replace it and use the 54GS as an emergency spare.

I considered another WRT54GS, but Linksys has neutered the 54GS the same way they did with the non-linux Rev 5 of the device :(

My research has narrowed me down to two possibilities:

1. Zywall 2 Plus.
2. DLink DGL-4300.

My Needs
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Ability to handle 25mbit Cable Connection (and possibly faster).
Ability to easily route ports for gaming, RealVNC revers-connections, ftp, etc...
VPN Pass-through (SecureClient).
Work easily with my ATT CallVantage VOIP (DLink Box).

At about $125, the DLink DGL-4300 looks really appealing. it has really amazing thru-put numbers, and includes a Gigabit switch that supports Jumbo Frames (I do have an 8 port Gigabit Switch that supports jumbo frames though).

One thing that worries me is it is starting to look like this may be a dead product. There has not been a firmware update for this router in almost a year, and that is usually a sign that a hardware product is on the way out. There is no such thing as perfection. There is always something to fix. Also, it's odd that none of the local retailers carry this apparantly perfect router, and that's odd.

The Zywall 2 Plus looks very appealing as well, but for different reasons. It has a much stronger firewall, is much more configurable, and I suspect is a stouter device for the long-haul. It also appears to be a fresh product that gets frequent firmware updates.

The extra $50 cost doesn't really bother me.

What to do?

Thanks :)

-Larry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Zywall-2-Plus-or-DLink-DGL4300-17444386 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:01:29 EDT