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thor17
join:2006-02-08
Vienna, VA

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Cat5e Panel/Jack Wiring

Was looking at the wall panel where the external cat5e is coming into the house from the ONT and noticed that only 4 of the wires are connected - Orange/White, White/Orange, Green/White, and White/Green. Is that a normal connection from ONT to the wall panel? The Fios speed seems fine (~650 KB/sec throughput for a 5Mbps connection)

Also the tech installed 1 additional external cat5e run for me and the jack on that wall panel only the Blue/White, White/Blue, Orange/White, White/Orange, Green/White, and White/Green are connected, with the Brown/White and White/Brown wires not connected. Why did he exclude the brown/white and white/brown? I cannot get gigabit speeds through this particular cat5e run (only 100 Mbps) even though both ends are gigabit NICS connected through a gigabit switch. Could the exclusion of the brown wires be the reason?

sdgthy
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10/100 only uses 2 of the pairs, GigE requires all 4 pairs.

Edrick
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The guy was a tard although it's not required to use all pairs it's stupid not to use all pairs any verizon or other cable provider install that reqiuired patching of cables I've seen them use all pairs. Which they should have.
vzfiostech1
join:2006-11-10
Danvers, MA

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hey ricky for any FIOS speed we have you only need pins 1,2,3,& 6 that is only 2 pairs so watch the tard referances. thanks
JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

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All CAT5e should be properly terminated. To not do so, is just being lazy. Ricky is entitled to his opinion. You can get offended, if he calls you a tard.
REDSOX6
join:2006-12-21
Saugus, MA

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You are correct it should be properly terminated but in some cases there just isn't anyway to run a new piece of cat5. So in that case we may only use 2 or 3 pairs. So it really isn't being lazy. What some techs might do is one thing but not mine
thor17
join:2006-02-08
Vienna, VA

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Thanks for the info. The tech was being lazy. He wrapped the excess wires back around the cat5 so I went ahead and just punched them in. It took all of 30 seconds to do.

PoloDude
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join:2006-03-29
Aiken, SC

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The tech was a tard and lazy. why is there a reason not to punch down all the wires? if the cable is failing for some reason find a way to replace it. If you dont some one else will have to.been there and seen it,and had to do the rewire.

Edrick
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said by vzfiostech1:

hey ricky for any FIOS speed we have you only need pins 1,2,3,& 6 that is only 2 pairs so watch the tard referances. thanks
So are we not wiring with the future in mind? Also if you're installing jacks for a customer at the extra cost say from router to a port you should punch all jacks down just because you give them a 100 mbit router at the time doesn't mean they wont change it out to be a gigabit router. There's no need to only punch down 2 pairs into a jack if it takes a whole 10 seconds longer to punch down all of them. But with this thinking for the future when I do network installs I'll just punch down 2 pairs so they can only get 100 Mbit max and in the future or if someone else looks at it and they come back to me ill just say oh well...
Edrick

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I just wanted to point out it may be a bit harsh calling the guy a tard. But what I mean by that is it's just stupid and lazy not to punch down all the cables. Nothing against the guy but it should just be common practice.
pdxnerd
join:2006-12-28
Portland, OR

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Although the term 'tard' isn't the most appropriate word for this situation, the complaint is completely warranted. What if you got new wheels on your car and the person installing them used 3 bolts instead of all 5? What if you were installing a motherboard in a new computer case but only used 5 or 6 of the standoffs?
Using only 2 pairs may work, but it negates the effect of using cat5 and is, at best, a shoddy installation.

Cjaiceman
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I agree, if the tech is in there, he/she might as well use all the pairs. It would only take 3-10 seconds longer. There is cutting corners, then there is negligence. Its kinda like putting in the cable, but not properly securing it. It will work for now, but could have problems down the road.