Friday Open Thread → Re: PirateBay?

Actually, their income has just passed 1,000,000.00 US mark. They are upgrading the servers right now to handle the 400% increase in traffic over the last year. Just goes to show you, that in an OPEN country, where the law allows a torrent site to exist, they are providing a SERVICE that the average internet user would be wise to take advantage of.

Why pay, when you can get it for FREE.
It's not immoral if everyone does it.
You won't get caught.
The megacorps are raping you in other ways.
Information wants to be free.
Copyright infringement is NOT THEFT.

You need to learn the arguments against "moral relativism", of which you seem the major proponent around here.
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Absolutely correct. There is no MORAL RIGHT. Whats offensive to a christian (abortion) is widely accepted in most other religions. There are no absolutes in morals. What defines our moral beliefs is the culture we are raised in. If you were raised 250 years ago by indians, you wouldn't consider 'petty theft' to be a problem, because that's what their culture considered the norm.

The problem arises, when one culture tries to push it's moral beliefs on other cultures (*cough cough right wing whack job bush*). Who are we to say that the muslim belief is any better than our beliefs? So what if they consider themselves to be martyrs to god, if they kill the infidels. I'm not saying we all roll over and subscribe to their beliefs, but it's a damn big world, and we can all live alone. The fact that the europeans don't consider copyright infringment to be a bad thing, just means that their culture values the individual rights over the rights of the megacorps. And that's a GOOD thing.

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Absolutely correct. There is no MORAL RIGHT. Whats offensive to a christian (abortion) is widely accepted in most other religions. There are no absolutes in morals. What defines our moral beliefs is the culture we are raised in. If you were raised 250 years ago by indians, you wouldn't consider 'petty theft' to be a problem, because that's what their culture considered the norm.

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So there is no moral right to judge the Christian who does not approve of abortion over the other person who does? If there is no moral right, there is no right for anyone to judge another. Which brings me to a scripture, "Judge not that ye be not judged."

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The problem arises, when one culture tries to push it's moral beliefs on other cultures (*cough cough right wing whack job bush*).

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Do you mean as in "It takes a village." or are you saying as in Nancy Pelosi and McMurtha's attempt to shove a policy down the throat of a nation which is not well supported?

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Who are we to say that the muslim belief is any better than our beliefs?

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You certainly will get no disagreement from me on that question.

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o what if they consider themselves to be martyrs to god, if they kill the infidels. I'm not saying we all roll over and subscribe to their beliefs, but it's a damn big world, and we can all live alone.

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If it is wrong for a Christian to try to force his beliefs upon girls entering an abortion clinic, I'd say it is equally wrong for Muslim's to try to force their beliefs upon the rest of us by using the tactics of terror. Now this is the place where you remind me that these homicide bombers and fanatics don't represent Islam and that is the place where I ask you why you think the Christians acting out around abortion clinics represent Christ... I do hope that did not go over your head.

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The fact that the europeans don't consider copyright infringment to be a bad thing, just means that their culture values the individual rights over the rights of the megacorps. And that's a GOOD thing.

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Ho hum...

So Mr. Marx still doesn't understand the inherent irony in his hatred of moral absolutes when considering his economic system of choice.

Then you have no ethical issue with me peeling strips of your skin off. One at a time. Maybe take us a while to finish up.

Now, I suppose you might have a personal reservation or two, but ethically, it's the equivalent of fabricating a cheese sandwich. Or planting a petunia bed.

Well. Hot dog then. Post your addy. I'm sure you'll have some takers.

NV