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Re: Shaw and DOCSIS 3.0id say 2010-2011 as well. the speed better kick ass though. max is already 25mbit. speculation/wishful thinking on my part but maby speed will be as follows; nitro -50/5 extreme -25/2 highspeed -10/1 light -5/1  |
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said by fsdfsd :id say 2010-2011 as well. the speed better kick ass though. max is already 25mbit. speculation/wishful thinking on my part but maby speed will be as follows; nitro -50/5 extreme -25/2 highspeed -10/1 light -5/1 Bah 25mb is pointless, roughly 99% of websites don't support more then one connection to them and with a maximum speed of that connection being 10mb. There is very few places this would be useful. I rather see a increase of uploads then see this Tier available. But everyone knows were just the minority as mentioned by others and Shaw is not gonna listen anytime soon and increase upload speeds for even their business customers who are limited to about 1mb VPN both up and down because they are only able to dl at the 1mb upload speed of the VPN server of a small company. |
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so what if its useless on 99% of the websites? people download things via p2p and ftp im sure its not useless in those applications.
how about when websites become very graphically intensive (some kind of a next gen website)
dont knock innovation, even if it might seem pointless at the present time. |
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said by denden2002:so what if its useless on 99% of the websites? people download things via p2p and ftp im sure its not useless in those applications. how about when websites become very graphically intensive (some kind of a next gen website) dont knock innovation, even if it might seem pointless at the present time. Yes it is ftp pipes are limited to 10mb as well, and p2p well thats even more pointless because u need the upload to go with it. |
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dwC4u
join:2005-06-29
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to pkarlos_76
Get your facts straight. You are getting 25mbit of available bandwidth, no one is selling it as you being able to get that much in one sole connection to a website. The more bandwidth you have the more computers/users you could potentially serve with a decent connection.
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join:2003-03-02
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Uh..you do FORGET that the nitro package is offered to residential users ONLY. Plus you only get 2 dynamic IPs. A router wouldn't be able to handle 25Mbit. Sharing it with other computers is pointless and making Nitro not as beneficial. |
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Uh.. what routers are you using, that can't handle 25mbit? The ones I've had, have all been 10/100 through all ports. |
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 pfak
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join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC |
pfak
Premium Member
2007-May-6 9:54 pm
said by AnonShawUser:Uh.. what routers are you using, that can't handle 25mbit? The ones I've had, have all been 10/100 through all ports. Doesn't mean that the CPU on the router can handle the throughput. |
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You do realize.. that's more or less what they were designed for, right? Unless you have the cheapest possible router, or have hacked the firmware and have it running all sorts of extra junk, they can typically handle full throughput across any combination of the ports. You could have a 100mbit connection to the WAN, with 4 computers hooked up, sucking down the bandwidth just fine. And even sharing with eachother.
What you might have problems with, is if you try to run file sharing programs through a cheap router. |
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pfak
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join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC |
pfak
Premium Member
2007-May-7 2:28 pm
said by AnonShawUser:You do realize.. that's more or less what they were designed for, right? Unless you have the cheapest possible router, or have hacked the firmware and have it running all sorts of extra junk, they can typically handle full throughput across any combination of the ports. You could have a 100mbit connection to the WAN, with 4 computers hooked up, sucking down the bandwidth just fine. And even sharing with eachother. I have never seen a consumer router that can push 100Mbit through the WAN port. Understand that the WAN port is filtered by the operating system on the device, and that the switch ports are not. |
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Ikarasu
join:2004-01-09
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to pkarlos_76
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Yes it is ftp pipes are limited to 10mb as well, and p2p well thats even more pointless because u need the upload to go with it.
FTP pipes are limited to 10 Mb? I've been on a few with 100 Mb/s shared, and can usually pull up to 75-100. Also.. what http sites limit you to 1 d/l? Maybe the free hosting services, but most personal websites, gaming websites, ect... dont limit you to 1. Only cheap, filesharing websites already with restrictions. Your also presuming someone is going to d/l 1 file, from 1 website, and afk. Lots of people d/l multiple files from multiple sites. Or have p2P going, browse the web, have a HTTP going, and FTP, ect. People arent limited to 1 d/l total, so saying 25 MB/s or higher isn't needed for them reasons, is kinda stupid :\ Granted yes, most people just check their email. But obviously if there wasnt demand for it, a lot of users wouldn't be signing up for Nitro. Not to mention future aspect - Upgrading their network allows for more HDTV to be streamed from them. Online video/music streaming is getting larger also. I remember back when Cable/DSL came out, people claimed 56K is enough, and the idea will never pass :PJust because the "Average" user doesnt maximise the potential, doesn't mean it's useless, or there shouldnt be higher. |
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said by pfak:said by AnonShawUser:You do realize.. that's more or less what they were designed for, right? Unless you have the cheapest possible router, or have hacked the firmware and have it running all sorts of extra junk, they can typically handle full throughput across any combination of the ports. You could have a 100mbit connection to the WAN, with 4 computers hooked up, sucking down the bandwidth just fine. And even sharing with eachother. I have never seen a consumer router that can push 100Mbit through the WAN port. Understand that the WAN port is filtered by the operating system on the device, and that the switch ports are not. This is very true. Most consumer routers typically max out at around 30-40Mbit over WAN. You can increase this if your router has a specific firewall running (different from NAT that most routers run and cant be disabled per say). But as said before, packets flowing over the WAN into the router must be examined by the routers processor, which can easily be maxed out. |
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Re: Shaw and DOCSIS 3.0said by Ikarasu:quote:
Yes it is ftp pipes are limited to 10mb as well, and p2p well thats even more pointless because u need the upload to go with it.
FTP pipes are limited to 10 Mb? I've been on a few with 100 Mb/s shared, and can usually pull up to 75-100. Also.. what http sites limit you to 1 d/l? Maybe the free hosting services, but most personal websites, gaming websites, ect... dont limit you to 1. Only cheap, filesharing websites already with restrictions. Your also presuming someone is going to d/l 1 file, from 1 website, and afk. Lots of people d/l multiple files from multiple sites. Or have p2P going, browse the web, have a HTTP going, and FTP, ect. People arent limited to 1 d/l total, so saying 25 MB/s or higher isn't needed for them reasons, is kinda stupid :\ Granted yes, most people just check their email. But obviously if there wasnt demand for it, a lot of users wouldn't be signing up for Nitro. Not to mention future aspect - Upgrading their network allows for more HDTV to be streamed from them. Online video/music streaming is getting larger also. I remember back when Cable/DSL came out, people claimed 56K is enough, and the idea will never pass :PJust because the "Average" user doesnt maximise the potential, doesn't mean it's useless, or there shouldnt be higher. Yes I can find those too, but your not the average home consumer. |
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