dminer
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dminer
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2007-Aug-25 5:11 am
[Vista] Urgent Warning about WGA!Microsoft's WGA servers are currently flagging genuine installations of Vista as counterfeit and disabling Aero and other functionality as well as a punishment. You will encounter this if you try to download any files from Microsoft's download site that require that validation to download, for example, DirectX updates. No news from Microsoft as to when they will fix the problem. Most annoying, to say the least! |
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TwKs
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2007-Aug-25 6:22 am
Did you get this information from a published source? A link or something would be nice.  |
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» forums.microsoft.com/Gen ··· iteID=25Might give some insight to what is going on . Makes me happy that I decided to revert to XP |
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TwKs
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2007-Aug-25 6:33 am
Thanks for the link. I read over some of those posts there and it seems that MS has had a major screwup with WGA, wow! Its only a matter of time before this forum gets flooded with similar stories if they don't get it fixed. |
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Mele20
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Mele20
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2007-Aug-25 8:57 am
According to this post » Re: Just keeps getting better (not)... Windows Validation Issuesthe validation server has been taken down by Microsoft until next Tuesday. Hmmm...does that mean I can go update DirectX now?   (I have XP Pro and refuse to "show my papers", although they are legit, in order to get downloads other than critical patches). |
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 howie1
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Hmmm... for fun I just downloaded a file that requires validation and there's no problem at all (Vista Ultimate). Maybe they fixed it.  |
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 Dan Given
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Dan Given
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2007-Aug-25 11:09 am
I just used my Vista business laptop at a local wifi hotspot and, when I checked for any updates, I received a message to download and install the latest updater software. This I did and was surprised that it took so long to install (not download...not a speed issue). It 'seems' to be running fine after a restart when I went back to the Windows site.
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Hmm. Yesterday I was trying to do an Office Update on an Office XP install and it kept telling me the install was counterfeit, when I knew darned well it wasn't. It was a Dell with a pre-installed copy of the application. |
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ChiTang
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I had no problem here too. said by Kramer:Hmm. Yesterday I was trying to do an Office Update on an Office XP install and it kept telling me the install was counterfeit, when I knew darned well it wasn't. It was a Dell with a pre-installed copy of the application. May be DELL sold you an illegal copies. |
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 geierrComputer Nut
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I am having this problem as well this morning. Tried to validate last night and experienced the same problem. Annoying to say the least! |
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 La LunaFly With The Angels My Beloved Son Chris
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Odd, I'd swear people have always complained about the same problem about XP since it was released.  |
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 macyhEx-Isp
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WGA Server may be down until 8/28/2007 ??Activation of XP, Win2003 and Vista are all affected. Notes from MS Forums indicate activation servers may be down for a couple more days. » forums.microsoft.com/Gen ··· iteID=25 |
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There's nothing like designing a single point of failure!This is what happens when an OS has to "phone home" for every little thing the user wants to do. Yep, that's a great design right there. |
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howie1
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Re: [Vista] Urgent Warning about WGA!That's what you people get for using non-genuine software! Just kidding, of course... |
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 javaManThe Dude abides.
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Re: There's nothing like designing a single point of failure!said by MooJohn:This is what happens when an OS has to "phone home" for every little thing the user wants to do. Yep, that's a great design right there. This isn't a "phone home" situation. It's a "check that this is a legitimate call" situation. And right now the phones are down. |
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 steve1a
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Re: [Vista] Urgent Warning about WGA!said by Dan Given:I just used my Vista business laptop at a local wifi hotspot and, when I checked for any updates, I received a message to download and install the latest updater software. This I did and was surprised that it took so long to install (not download...not a speed issue). It 'seems' to be running fine after a restart when I went back to the Windows site. Perhaps this is related to this post? I had the same thought .. I don't have Auto update enabled on any of my systems but I do usually run a weekly manual update scan and also got the update for the updater on my one Vista system and my other XP systems yesterday... the XPs gave the install activex prompts while the Vista did not ... all installs did seem to take awhile even with my 8 mb download connection but all went through smoothly and after the updater installed all scans were up to date. I've personally never run into any WGA problems with Vista, XP, Office 2007, & Office 2003 installed on the various systems. |
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 denb45
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said by dminer:Microsoft's WGA servers are currently flagging genuine installations of Vista as counterfeit and disabling Aero and other functionality as well as a punishment. You will encounter this if you try to download any files from Microsoft's download site that require that validation to download, for example, DirectX updates. No news from Microsoft as to when they will fix the problem. Most annoying, to say the least! I'm having a problem trying to install XP PRO,XP Home, MCE 2005, I have tried all 3 Retail Disc and it keeps telling me that all of my product keys are invaild (how can this be) I know for a fact that all 3 Retail Disc are legit, I also know that they are 2 to 3 yrs old with the expection of the MCE 2005.........I can't seem to make heads or tails of any of this? the strange part about all of this is, that I have Norton Ghost backups of all 3 Windows Versions I mentioned above, and they install just fine....and NO, none of them are installed on any other PC's ..........I'm stumped on this one....any Ideas? |
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 quetwoThat VoIP Guy
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I was presenting at an IT conference last week, and about 10 minutes before my session, Microsoft decided that my copy of Vista was non-genuine. Thank goodness my partner-in-crime that was there with me let me use his laptop... |
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denb45
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denb45
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2007-Aug-25 3:54 pm
said by quetwo:I was presenting at an IT conference last week, and about 10 minutes before my session, Microsoft decided that my copy of Vista was non-genuine. Thank goodness my partner-in-crime that was there with me let me use his laptop... Yeah that happend to me w/ Vista Ultimate a while back, but I haven't had any problems w/ that in a while now |
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La LunaFly With The Angels My Beloved Son Chris
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 AB57
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said by Mele20:Hmmm...does that mean I can go update DirectX now? (I have XP Pro and refuse to "show my papers", although they are legit, in order to get downloads other than critical patches). There are plenty of other sources besides the Microsoft site to update DirectX. I just tried to download a non-critical update directly from the individual KB website (KB900485). No go. First using Firefox, then IE6. They still require that you install WGA. Now, after installing it, perhaps it doesn't go thru the Validation process, but you're still required to install it, or at least I was, and that simply is not going to happen. My OS is legal, and I could easily install it, get the updates I want, then remove it. Removing it is a piece of cake (or at least not a major operation), and requires absolutely zero special software or 'crack', btw. I just don't feel like doing it. Guess I just don't want those updates that badly. So the bottom line remains the same-- you want a non-critical update from them, you will be installing WGA. *Edit-- Apparently things are back to normal: » Fixed |
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denb45
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2007-Aug-25 6:11 pm
said by denb45:said by dminer:Microsoft's WGA servers are currently flagging genuine installations of Vista as counterfeit and disabling Aero and other functionality as well as a punishment. You will encounter this if you try to download any files from Microsoft's download site that require that validation to download, for example, DirectX updates. No news from Microsoft as to when they will fix the problem. Most annoying, to say the least! I'm having a problem trying to install XP PRO,XP Home, MCE 2005, I have tried all 3 Retail Disc and it keeps telling me that all of my product keys are invaild (how can this be) I know for a fact that all 3 Retail Disc are legit, I also know that they are 2 to 3 yrs old with the expection of the MCE 2005.........I can't seem to make heads or tails of any of this? the strange part about all of this is, that I have Norton Ghost backups of all 3 Windows Versions I mentioned above, and they install just fine....and NO, none of them are installed on any other PC's ..........I'm stumped on this one....any Ideas? OK, the only thing I found about what may have happened with the upgrade/repair installs I was trying to do was this: Windows XP Media Center Edition: that was what I was using when this occurred Note: Windows Setup gives an error message that the Product Key is not valid (invalid) if you attempt an upgrade or repair the installation with Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition or with Microsoft Windows XP Professional. So, If I was to do a Clean install of XP Pro, Home or Media center, this would have worked? that's why the upgrade/repair route didn't work for me!!! |
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 RR ConductorRidin' the rails
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Re: [Vista] Urgent Warning about WGA!I just installed a brand new, full-retail version of Vista Home Premium Thursday with no problems, and a brand new copy of Office 2007 Home & Student yesterday without a hitch as well. |
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said by denb45:I'm having a problem trying to install XP PRO,XP Home, MCE 2005, I have tried all 3 Retail Disc and it keeps telling me that all of my product keys are invaild (how can this be) I know for a fact that all 3 Retail Disc are legit, I also know that they are 2 to 3 yrs old with the expection of the MCE 2005.........I can't seem to make heads or tails of any of this? the strange part about all of this is, that I have Norton Ghost backups of all 3 Windows Versions I mentioned above, and they install just fine....and NO, none of them are installed on any other PC's ..........I'm stumped on this one....any Ideas? I’m not doubting the validity of your software but there is no such thing, as far as I know, as a “retail” MCE 2K5 license. MCE 2K5 is OEM only and as such you may only be able to activate online once with all subsequent activations requiring a call to MS. Validation is another thing though,… |
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denb45
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denb45
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2007-Aug-26 1:30 pm
said by Octavean:said by denb45:I'm having a problem trying to install XP PRO,XP Home, MCE 2005, I have tried all 3 Retail Disc and it keeps telling me that all of my product keys are invaild (how can this be) I know for a fact that all 3 Retail Disc are legit, I also know that they are 2 to 3 yrs old with the expection of the MCE 2005.........I can't seem to make heads or tails of any of this? the strange part about all of this is, that I have Norton Ghost backups of all 3 Windows Versions I mentioned above, and they install just fine....and NO, none of them are installed on any other PC's ..........I'm stumped on this one....any Ideas? I’m not doubting the validity of your software but there is no such thing, as far as I know, as a “retail” MCE 2K5 license. MCE 2K5 is OEM only and as such you may only be able to activate online once with all subsequent activations requiring a call to MS. Validation is another thing though,… Hey long time no hear? hows the Vista & PC upgrades going? The MCE 2005 came w/ my notebook, so, it's an OEM, but the other 2 are Full Retail Versions (XP Home & XP PRO) As I stated above, the problem was......MCE 2005's only Repair/Upgrade option/path is Vista....I tried to repair MCE w/ XP Pro, and when that didn't work I tried XP Home, witch you cannot even do that's why both product keys kept comming back as (invalid)....I found that out the hard way!!! but thanks to the Norton Ghost backup I made a while back, I was back up and running again!!! |
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MooJohn
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Re: There's nothing like designing a single point of failure!quote:
javaMan said:
This isn't a "phone home" situation. It's a "check that this is a legitimate call" situation. And right now the phones are down.
Wrong. It performed that check at the time the OS was installed. Any checks after that are indeed a "phone home" process; it has decided that my once-legit OS installation may now be suspect and I have no choice but to submit to their inspection again. Next thing you know they'll copy-protect the installation disks and you'll have to keep it in the drive, like a game, for your computer to work at all. Just wait till a large zombie group decides to ddos the WGA servers. That should prove interesting. |
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javaManThe Dude abides.
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said by MooJohn:quote:
javaMan said:
This isn't a "phone home" situation. It's a "check that this is a legitimate call" situation. And right now the phones are down.
Wrong. It performed that check at the time the OS was installed. Any checks after that are indeed a "phone home" process. . . That would depend on the option you select for update checks wouldn't it? "Phone home" implies that the application makes contact without the user authorizing it. At least that's what is used to mean. |
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 PamelaTSDigital Chick
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I'm thinking perhaps now is a good time for a class action against MS for WGA. |
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denb45
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2007-Aug-27 9:14 am
said by PamelaTS:I'm thinking perhaps now is a good time for a class action against MS for WGA. Maybe MS should KILL WGA as well as DRM, and put Direct Sound back into Vista where it belongs............this is what happens when Companies go to far!!! Bill? are you listening to this, you should be? |
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(I have XP Pro and refuse to "show my papers", although they are legit, in order to get downloads other than critical patches).
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