 r81984Fair and Balanced
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r81984
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2007-Oct-31 11:01 am
Ron Paul should win the PrimaryNational ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed.
Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs.
Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake?
I really hope this election becomes a battle between Obama and Ron Paul. Both are the only good people running.
That way we cannot loose like in the last election. |
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 HangmnDon't Fight It...It's Inevitable
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Hangmn
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2007-Oct-31 11:10 am
said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? I really hope this election becomes a battle between Obama and Ron Paul. Both are the only good people running. That way we cannot loose like in the last election. A national ID, supported by the federal guvment is in NO WAY beneficial to the US public. It is, however a step toward the ultimate jack boot society rivaled by no other except Nazi Germany. |
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said by r81984:I really hope this election becomes a battle between Obama and Ron Paul. Both are the only good people running. That way we cannot loose like in the last election. Obama Bin Laden is the polar opposite of Ron Paul. Obama seeks to subvert the constitution at every pass, whereas Ron Paul takes the defense of the constitution to an almost nutjob level. *I* like him, but not for the reasons liberals like him. I like him because he supports the constitution. Libs like him because he always opposes the party in the Whitehouse (which right now is the GOP) due to their constitutional abuses. He was just as loud during the Clinton Administration. |
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said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? We already have a national ID program. It's called a Passport.  |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?
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said by Hangmn:said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? I really hope this election becomes a battle between Obama and Ron Paul. Both are the only good people running. That way we cannot loose like in the last election. A national ID, supported by the federal guvment is in NO WAY beneficial to the US public. It is, however a step toward the ultimate jack boot society rivaled by no other except Nazi Germany. And there folks is the obligatory Nazi and/or Hitler reference that always pops up in a thread like this.  |
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 Sly
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Sly
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2007-Oct-31 12:09 pm
Your point is?? "Godwin's Law" is just another attempt to shut down intelligent conversation. Just because someone mentions something relevant such as the war in which more people died than in all other wars in human history combined, that doesn't make the argument mute. |
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said by Hangmn:said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? I really hope this election becomes a battle between Obama and Ron Paul. Both are the only good people running. That way we cannot loose like in the last election. A national ID, supported by the federal guvment is in NO WAY beneficial to the US public. It is, however a step toward the ultimate jack boot society rivaled by no other except Nazi Germany. We do have a universal ID, it is called a social security card. Put our picture on it and you are done. Think your complaints are about 75 years too late. (also use spell check next time!) |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?
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said by Sly:Your point is?? "Godwin's Law" is just another attempt to shut down intelligent conversation. Just because someone mentions something relevant such as the war in which more people died than in all other wars in human history combined, that doesn't make the argument mute. Did they actually mention the war? Didn't look like it to me. Just a Nazi reference. Did I menion the war? Nope. No it doesn't but Godwin's Law came up pretty early. And we are not talking about the war and how many people died, just the obligatory Nazi and/or Hitler reference. No need to get your panties in a bunch, Sly. I am in no means trivializing WWII, but you know that a Nazi and/or Hitler reference was going to pop up. |
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And there is the obligatory dismissal of the Nazi and/or Hitler reference without providing any sort of counter argument. This would be your opportunity to refute by using supporting evidence rather than just dodging the issue.
So far, no one has given any compelling reason to why I should be comfortable with RealID other than "it'll help fight terrorism". That may be true, but so would everyone wearing an electronic tether and having a state appointed minder. |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?
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ptrowski
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2007-Oct-31 1:01 pm
said by clickie8:And there is the obligatory dismissal of the Nazi and/or Hitler reference without providing any sort of counter argument. This would be your opportunity to refute by using supporting evidence rather than just dodging the issue. So far, no one has given any compelling reason to why I should be comfortable with RealID other than "it'll help fight terrorism". That may be true, but so would everyone wearing an electronic tether and having a state appointed minder. Easily. Toadman voiced the point I was thinking. The SS card is already a form of ID in theory. Slap my ugly mug on it and you are there. |
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HangmnDon't Fight It...It's Inevitable
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Hangmn
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2007-Oct-31 1:58 pm
said by ptrowski:said by clickie8:And there is the obligatory dismissal of the Nazi and/or Hitler reference without providing any sort of counter argument. This would be your opportunity to refute by using supporting evidence rather than just dodging the issue. So far, no one has given any compelling reason to why I should be comfortable with RealID other than "it'll help fight terrorism". That may be true, but so would everyone wearing an electronic tether and having a state appointed minder. Easily. Toadman voiced the point I was thinking. The SS card is already a form of ID in theory. Slap my ugly mug on it and you are there. So what exactly was your point? Oh you didn't have one |
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said by moonpuppy:said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? We already have a national ID program. It's called a Passport. Which, incidentally now have RFID chips embedded, welcome to 1984, so to speak....oh and please leave your spelling/grammer policing at your childs doorstep I know what i spelled and why i spelled it..did that village in Texass get its idiot back yet? |
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moonpuppy (banned)
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2007-Oct-31 2:26 pm
said by Hangmn:said by moonpuppy:said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Just think 1 uniform ID or 50 completely different IDs. Which scenario makes it easier to spot the fake? We already have a national ID program. It's called a Passport. Which, incidentally now have RFID chips embedded, welcome to 1984, so to speak....oh and please leave your spelling/grammer policing at your childs doorstep I know what i spelled and why i spelled it..did that village in Texass get its idiot back yet? Ummmm, where did I criticize anyone's grammer or spelling in this post? |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?
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said by Hangmn:said by ptrowski:said by clickie8:And there is the obligatory dismissal of the Nazi and/or Hitler reference without providing any sort of counter argument. This would be your opportunity to refute by using supporting evidence rather than just dodging the issue. So far, no one has given any compelling reason to why I should be comfortable with RealID other than "it'll help fight terrorism". That may be true, but so would everyone wearing an electronic tether and having a state appointed minder. Easily. Toadman voiced the point I was thinking. The SS card is already a form of ID in theory. Slap my ugly mug on it and you are there. So what exactly was your point? Oh you didn't have one My point was it was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into play, and you fullfilled it for me. |
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HangmnDon't Fight It...It's Inevitable
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Hangmn
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2007-Oct-31 5:54 pm
said by ptrowski:My point was it was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into play, and you fullfilled it for me. Well known fact, you can deny it anyway you want,this series of historical events are simply the beginings of the fascist state in the US Godwin was an idiot » www.news.com/National-ID ··· 414.html» www.news.com/5208-1028_3 ··· start=61» www.preventgenocide.org/ ··· IDcards/ |
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 EGeezer
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said by r81984:National ID is a good idea, anyone that thinks its bad is just misinformed. Germany had permanent, easily readable national IDs in the 1930's - long before RFID ... |
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2007-Nov-2 1:04 pm
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yeah we'll just put it right in your brain where it belongs and is easy to find. |
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