OptimumOnline → Re: Xbox Live Lag *Boost Member*

I can't do a trace route to anyone I know with OOL because they block it and they can't do a trace route to my OOL and we are both pingable. Also I can't do a path ping to any site using OOL but with my Fios it works fine.

This was happening before my connection messed up and I was saying every time I played on another OOL server EVERYONE lagged so it was the server and it is not just my area IT IS OOL.

Can i ask you a serious question, Why are you still with OOL, when you have Fios? Seems like a big waste of money to me..

Because I can

Yep.. They definitely block it..

macbookpro:~ Td$ ping xxxxxx.org (my OOL domain name)
PING xxxxxxxxx.org (69.124.247.xx): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 69.124.247.xx: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=83.455 ms
64 bytes from 69.124.247.xx: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=92.265 ms
64 bytes from 69.124.247.xx: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=82.498 ms
64 bytes from 69.124.247.xx: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=82.371 ms
64 bytes from 69.124.247.xx: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=82.134 ms
 

traceroute to xxxxxxxx.org (69.124.247.xxx), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.150)  1.007 ms  0.504 ms  0.494 ms
 2  * d4-res-1401-gw.usc.edu (68.181.219.254)  1.409 ms  1.249 ms
 3  130.152.181.129 (130.152.181.129)  1.038 ms  1.084 ms  0.908 ms
 4  ln-cit-gsr-vlan2010.ln.net (130.152.181.85)  1.652 ms  1.642 ms  1.489 ms
 5  ge-1-5.r00.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (198.172.117.161)  4.123 ms  2.316 ms  2.163 ms
 6  ae-1.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.249)  2.662 ms  2.474 ms  2.539 ms
 7  p64-3-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.75)  69.729 ms  72.112 ms  69.577 ms
 8  as-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.8)  75.682 ms  75.682 ms  76.005 ms
 9  65.19.101.57 (65.19.101.57)  215.631 ms  191.508 ms  230.199 ms
10  rtr3-tg11-2.in.nycmny83.cv.net (64.15.0.9)  74.769 ms  74.794 ms  74.362 ms
11  rtr4-tg10-1.wan.whplny.cv.net (64.15.0.54)  76.017 ms  75.924 ms  75.738 ms
12  rtr2-tg10-1.mhe.whplny.cv.net (64.15.8.30)  76.618 ms  76.776 ms  76.132 ms
13  ool-4353e10e.dyn.optonline.net (67.83.225.14)  76.868 ms  76.359 ms  77.307 ms
14  ubr201-ge1-0-0.cmts.nyx1ny.cv.net (67.83.225.46)  76.766 ms  76.945 ms  76.447 ms
15  ool-xxxxxxx.dyn.optonline.net (69.124.247.xxx)  88.236 ms  82.663 ms  84.363 ms
 

traceroute to www.google.com (64.233.161.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  DD-WRT (192.168.0.1)  0.766 ms  0.927 ms  1.098 ms
 2  10.120.xxx.xxx (10.120.xxx.xxx)  10.058 ms  14.860 ms  14.981 ms
 3  dstswr1-vlan2.rh.nyx1ny.cv.net (67.83.225.33)  15.183 ms  15.395 ms  15.436 ms
 4  r1-ge9-2.mhe.whplny.cv.net (67.83.225.1)  78.266 ms  78.402 ms  78.521 ms
 5  rtr4-tg11-2.wan.whplny.cv.net (64.15.8.25)  16.750 ms  16.851 ms  20.049 ms
 6  64.15.0.193 (64.15.0.193)  21.417 ms  15.360 ms  14.977 ms
 7  * * *
 8  72.14.236.215 (72.14.236.215)  32.241 ms  35.698 ms  35.800 ms
 9  72.14.233.115 (72.14.233.115)  31.184 ms  31.318 ms 66.249.94.235 (66.249.94.235)  42.415 ms
10  64.233.175.111 (64.233.175.111)  42.671 ms  42.728 ms  42.773 ms
11  216.239.46.225 (216.239.46.225)  65.196 ms  58.420 ms  59.859 ms
12  64.233.175.109 (64.233.175.109)  61.262 ms  60.937 ms od-in-f104.google.com (64.233.161.104)  40.440 ms
 

Your credibility is going downhill...

Its not posting the trace so here

you know what try it yourself

here is my ip

69.123.44.103

 1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.150)  1.904 ms  0.433 ms  0.374 ms
 2  d4-res-1401-gw.usc.edu (68.181.219.254)  2.232 ms  5.227 ms *
 3  130.152.181.129 (130.152.181.129)  16.655 ms  0.997 ms  0.875 ms
 4  ln-cit-gsr-vlan2010.ln.net (130.152.181.85)  1.797 ms  2.102 ms  1.652 ms
 5  ge-1-5.r00.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (198.172.117.161)  4.419 ms  4.516 ms *
 6  ae-1.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.249)  2.842 ms  2.524 ms  2.224 ms
 7  p64-3-0-0.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.75)  69.959 ms  69.702 ms  69.355 ms
 8  as-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.8)  75.263 ms  75.175 ms  76.590 ms
 9  65.19.101.57 (65.19.101.57)  75.215 ms  75.646 ms  74.905 ms
10  rtr3-tg11-2.in.nycmny83.cv.net (64.15.0.9)  74.330 ms  74.344 ms  74.699 ms
11  rtr3-tg10-1.wan.hcvlny.cv.net (64.15.0.2)  75.431 ms  75.334 ms  75.250 ms
12  rtr4-tg10-1.mhe.hcvlny.cv.net (64.15.4.14)  75.893 ms  76.026 ms  75.372 ms
13  dstswr2-ge3-16.lybrny.cv.net (167.206.33.6)  75.722 ms  75.340 ms  75.994 ms
14  ubr201-ge1-0-0.cmts.lybrny.cv.net (167.206.33.48)  76.846 ms  75.857 ms  75.887 ms
 

Makes it just fine to your UBR/CMTS which is the last hop before your computer/router. Something is improperly configured on your end.

No man it isn't and this is the same issues I have with my friends in my neighborhood and in the bronx. Its a wrt-54g router so I doubt I miscongured anything at all. Its OOl blocking it and they block other stuff too like pathping as you can see below gets blocked by OOL on hop 6 and my fios works fine on the same PC.

Pathping with OOL is blocked at hop 6

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>pathping nyc.speakeasy.net

Tracing route to nyc.speakeasy.net [216.254.95.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.2.65]
1 Eebobb [192.168.2.1]
2 10.50.192.1
3 dstswr2-vlan2.rh.lybrny.cv.net [167.206.33.34]
4 opti33-13.nassau.cv.net [167.206.33.13]
5 rtr4-tg11-3.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [64.15.4.37]
6 rtr4-tg10-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [64.15.0.17]
7 * * *
Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.2.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Eebobb [192.168.2.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 11ms 99/ 100 = 99% 99/ 100 = 99% 10.50.192.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dstswr2-vlan2.rh.lybrny.cv.net [16
7.206.33.34]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 15ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% opti33-13.nassau.cv.net [167.206.3
3.13]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% rtr4-tg11-3.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [64.
15.4.37]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% rtr4-tg10-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [64
.15.0.17]
100/ 100 =100% |
7 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% Eebobb-Server-2 [0.0.0.0]

Trace complete.

Pathping with Fios works fine

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>pathping nyc.speakeasy.net

Tracing route to nyc.speakeasy.net [216.254.95.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.1.103]
1 192.168.1.1
2 71.167.54.1
3 P6-2.LCR-06.NYCMNY.verizon-gni.net [130.81.54.46]
4 so-7-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon-gni.net [130.81.17.131]
5 so-0-3-1.mpr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.13.33]
6 so-0-0-0.mpr2.lga3.us.above.net [64.125.30.22]
7 208.184.48.181.speakeasy.net [208.184.48.181]
8 dns.nyc1.speakeasy.net [216.254.95.2]

Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.1.103]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 2ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 71.167.54.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 4ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% P6-2.LCR-06.NYCMNY.verizon-gni.net
[130.81.54.46]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 8ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% so-7-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.NY111.verizon
-gni.net [130.81.17.131]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 5ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% so-0-3-1.mpr2.lga5.us.above.net [6
4.125.13.33]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% so-0-0-0.mpr2.lga3.us.above.net [6
4.125.30.22]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 6ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.184.48.181.speakeasy.net [208.
184.48.181]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dns.nyc1.speakeasy.net [216.254.95
.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

My OOL connection is in the Bronx. It traceroutes just fine. Nothing is being blocked, even in your trace route. Hop 6 simply has ICMP responses turned off. That's normal and not any sign of "blocking" it. You're citing problems that don't exist.

Then how come I can't finish the trace to my IP even though it is pingable ? It is being blocked by them and my friend lives in 10459 in the bronx and he has the same issue so what do you have to say about that ? Some area's have issues LOL Yea right !!!

You guys pretend to know alot but you know SHIT

Somebody's gettin' angry. uhoh...

Before you continue with the personal attacks, care to explain why 99% of the people on OOL have never complained about having their trace routes "blocked"? Only you and your "friends"?

Because they never figured it out and I did and yea I am getting mad because you KNOW IT ALL people think this is an imaginary problem when it is not and I even provide proof and all the fanboys say oh my OOL is fine.

A trace route to my IP doesn't work on OOL and I can't do pathpings with my OOL and its always been like this.

Post a traceroute to www.google.com

No it isn't look at the one under it done by my Fios and it goes all the way to speakeasy while OOL stops on hop 6 which is OOL. The only thing that doesn't work right on outbound is the pathping command and the only thing inbound is that the trace routes never go all the way and time out so I can't troubleshoot it at all. My speeds are a different story

here is google

See.. It works perfectly fine. They're not blocking anything. Hop 7 timing out is no big deal.

No I meant when doing a trace route to my IP 69.123.44.103 it never finishes and times out over and over.

Then try to do a pathping command to nyc.speakeasy.net and see if it goes all the way to nyc.speakeasy.net. My OOL didn't but my Fios did and OOL stopped on hop 6.

It traces... the thing is, windows tracert isn't exactly the best tool to use for the job.

Thats weird

It works... it's just that the window trace utility ... isn't great

Why does it work to some OOL IP's and not others is another weird question ?

Now if we could figure out the pathping that stops on hop 6 for OOL but not Fios

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>pathping nyc.speakeasy.net

Tracing route to nyc.speakeasy.net [216.254.95.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.2.65]
1 Eebobb [192.168.2.1]
2 10.50.192.1
3 dstswr2-vlan2.rh.lybrny.cv.net [167.206.33.34]
4 opti33-13.nassau.cv.net [167.206.33.13]
5 rtr4-tg11-3.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [64.15.4.37]
6 rtr4-tg10-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [64.15.0.17]
7 * * *
Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Eebobb-Server-2 [192.168.2.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Eebobb [192.168.2.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 11ms 99/ 100 = 99% 99/ 100 = 99% 10.50.192.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dstswr2-vlan2.rh.lybrny.cv.net [16
7.206.33.34]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 15ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% opti33-13.nassau.cv.net [167.206.3
3.13]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% rtr4-tg11-3.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [64.
15.4.37]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% rtr4-tg10-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [64
.15.0.17]
100/ 100 =100% |
7 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% Eebobb-Server-2 [0.0.0.0]

Trace complete.

I've had boost and I had pingspikes with halo 3 in the beta. I moved out and still had opt online but downgraded to the standard service. I'm still getting pings spikes.

I called out the tech engineer and he changed all the splitters with new ones. I still had ping spikes with halo 3.

I believe that halo 3 sends it's informations at a certain rate and opt online some how is not compatible with that rate. Ping spikes aren't all the time; there random. I know I have my network setup correctly.

Whilst playing halo 3 and testing my pings on my pc I had ping spikes on the game, on the pc I had zero issues.

No other game do I have ping spikes accepts halo 3.

The ping spikes in halo 3 are a halo 3 problem but halo 2 has no problems. Halo 2 used to be fine with Boost when it was 30/2 and got the red connection crap when it was pushed to 30/5. Its weird but thats what happened for me and my friends with Boost.

what are trace routes? & how do I use one to test my connection?

Will it give me anymore info than a ping test in the command prompt? I've had boost and standard and there both bad for gaming even though the speeds appear very good.

I'm turning off my modem/router for a power cycle in the morning, because I think I've stressed the connection to much by opening 8 windows media players all at 3000kbps roughly. Now I'm just getting rediculous ping spikes all the time on games and when nobody is using the connection.

Seriously? Why should there be any lag with so much bandwidth?

A tracert is done from the command prompt. Simply type

tracert address

It will help to see where the latency is occurring.

 
C:\Documents and Settings>tracert www.dslreports.com
 
Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Dlink [192.168.0.1]
 2     8 ms     7 ms     5 ms  CMTSprivate [10.140.75.1]
 3     6 ms     7 ms    11 ms  dstswr1-vlan2.rh.ynkrny.cv.net [67.83.232.33]
 4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 7     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  rtr4-tg11-1.in.nycmny83.cv.net [64.15.0.41]
 8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 9   102 ms    61 ms    10 ms  12.ae0.gbr1.tl9.nac.net [209.123.11.71]
10   220 ms    58 ms    24 ms  0.so-0-1-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.142]
11    39 ms    14 ms    24 ms  www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
 

Latency and Bandwidth are two different measurements. One is how much you can send in a period, the other is how quick every packets makes it to the destination. You can get a very short delay due to congestion anywhere in the line, but still be able to send a lot of packets in a full second, that is where a tracert comes in, it helps you figure out where the delay occurs.

Here are a couple of tracert tools which are free and will also allow you to test your connection

Ping Plotter (A Free Version is available)

»www.pingplotter.com/

Trout

»www.foundstone.com/us/re ··· ools.asp

TheWiseGuy, thanks for that information.