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Factual?? I'd say it's clearly a lie -- the leaked memo very plainly stated their intent to roll it out nationwide.

Now they're lying/backpedaling and saying "there are no plans beyond that test". He's a weasel.

-- B

Do we know who wrote the "leaked" memo?
Where is the text of it?

The OP redacted it. I asked earlier that someone repost it but I haven't seen a copy since. There's got to be a copy out there somewhere -- after all, that's why we're still here talking about it.

-- B

There is an excerpt from the memo at the link, below.

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Who wrote it really doesn't matter at this point; the memo and its contents have been confirmed by TW-RR.

Thank you! As I said, Alex Dudley is a weasel.

-- B

"We will use the results of the trial to evaluate results for possible future nationwide rollouts"

Means that there are no plans beyond the test.

Other than maybe a plan to evaluate something!

Thank you for further clarifying the very definition of "weasel". There is a good reason I chose that word. I can't believe you actually went on to defend the weaselry! I didn't think anyone could be so brazenly partisan.

-- B

Lets try this again.

The leaked memo did not state an intent to roll it out nationwide as you posted.

It stated an intent to evaluate the results.

But of course that doesn't fit with what you want people to believe does it.

Hob

Now I have to think you're joking. The memo didn't state an "intent" to roll it out nationwide? Is there a language barrier here or something? They're just doing the trial, and specifically mentioning a national roll-out, just for kicks? There's no intent at all? They're just kind of.... wondering, strictly out of curiosity, what customers will do when faced with the pay per byte model? Anything that happens after that would be mere coincidence? The phrase "possible future nationwide rollouts" should in no way be interpreted as meaning that they want to roll it out nationwide? They're just spending money changing their entire billing system on a lark?

Absolutely astounding. It's like a man getting caught naked in a hotel room with another woman, and telling his wife that there was no evidence of his "intent" to do anything more than stand there naked. He'll say, "It is a test. It is only the two of us with our clothes off, and there are no plans beyond that test." You're honestly going to continue to try to spin reality?

-- B

"They're just kind of.... wondering, strictly out of curiosity, what customers will do when faced with the pay per byte model?"

Bingo....exactly.

Good Job. I could not have said it better myself.

Unfortunately you ruined it with this.

"They're just spending money changing their entire billing system on a lark?"

Of course they are not changing ENTIRE anythings for a trial in a small area.

Hob

Yes, Dudley's a weasel. He's a paid company spokesman and his job is to present stuff to the media in the best light possible for TWC. All PR people are weasels.

I've read a bunch of different articles with quotes from him and there are several inconsistencies between what he said at different times and what the memo had on it. So I'd just wait for the trial to start and see what public info is given out to the customers involved in the trial.

That doesn't change that the metered-bandwidth billing is just a trial to determine the feasibility, cost, support needs, and acceptance of such a scheme. Like most TWC trials, there is a possibility it may spread to other divisions and may even go national. There is also the possibility, like many other TWC trials before it, that the trial is deemed a failure or just not ready for prime time and is shut down never to be seen again...

Well sure, we're agreed on that. But do you too endorse the bizarre claim that they don't want / intend / plan to roll it out nationwide? It's not just "a possibility" out of the ether; they want to do it.

I mean, it was in writing and everything.

-- B

I believe its a trial. To test feasibility, cost, support needs, and acceptance of such a scheme. Like most TWC trials, there is a possibility it may spread to other divisions and may even go national. There is also the possibility, like many other TWC trials before it, that the trial is deemed a failure or just not ready for prime time and is shut down never to be seen again...

Like the memo said:

said by leaked TWC memo :

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Following the trial, a determination will be made as to whether or not existing subscribers should be charged. Only residential subscribers will be impacted. Trial in Beaumont, TX will begin by Q1. We will be testing technical backend as well as Marketing and Messaging to customers. We will use the results of the trial to evaluate results for possible future nationwide rollouts.

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It's not written in stone that the trial will be a success. If the trial or evaluation of the trial doesn't go well, the scheme won't go nation wide.

Remember the small list of previous projects I had listed before and how many of those you actually have. TWC does trials in different divisions ALL the time.

Would you rather have TWC sit around and wait for other companies to try the latest and greatest products and ideas, to work out all the bugs, and perfect them, then spring in on a national scale all at once?

I don't believe you answered my question. "But do you too endorse the bizarre claim that they don't want / intend / plan to roll it out nationwide?"

They're doing a trial with the intent to roll it out nationwide. It's their INTENT to roll out the pricing scheme nationwide because they think it will save / make them money and customers will swallow it. Of course if they're proved wrong they won't do it. But their intent is clear. (Just as the intent of the man standing in that hotel room is perfectly clear. If upon removing her clothes the lady is covered with something unsightly he'll call off the tryst, but his intent is perfectly clear. As is TimeWarner's.)

-- B

I endorse the claim that this is a trial.

I'm sure that there are some within TWC that absolutely want this sort of scheme to go forward. I'm also sure that there is a large group that would only support national rollout if the trial was a success with definite ways to scale up to a national footprint and the various demands that places on the such a scheme. I'm also sure that there is a group within the company who want this trial to fail and go away.

The intent is to see if this trial works.

If it does work, I don't think it will be without changes and if it's rolled out nationally, I'd expect the limits for each tier to either be raised by a large percentage or the limits would vary between divisions.

Your analogy is a bit flawed... the man is in the room with a woman and wants some action with her, but that doesn't mean if he succeeds he's out to hit every piece in the country. Intent with one, isn't intent with all, although it may be a fantasy somewhere in his head...

Then again it all depends on were the idea for the trial originated... is it a corporate executive idea rolling downhill, a corporate engineering trial balloon, or a divisional engineering project to solve some divisional budget/bandwidth issues? That alone is a major factor in the intent of this trial.