 JGROCKY
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JGROCKY
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2008-Mar-28 8:26 pm
Official Response...Ok Gang, Here it is! The next step is digesting this document and reviewing our options. Rocky |
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 rentonCome On You Spurs
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renton
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2008-Mar-28 8:28 pm
"...but the majority of your end users will experience an increased level of satisfaction."
The nerve.. unbelivable! |
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 The Flash
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quote:
We understand the difficulty this action has caused for you and your customers who are P2P users, but the majority of your end users will experience an increased level of satisfaction.
My ass, nobody has been happy about these changes... I wonder if you can opt out of them? |
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Suddenincreasedlevelofsatisfaction is making me wanna punch something  Adi |
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What a load of garbage. I hope with this letter they have just tied their own noose since it gives the smaller isps clear evidence of breach of contract among other things. |
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 matradley
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Wow... look at that:
1. Time of throttling 4:30 pm to 2:00 am;
2. Both retail and residential throttled;
3. Only admitted to throttling P2P and BT but not encrypted traffic (bad move); and
4. Finally, they are showing no remorse for the situation. They did not even bother quoting legal documents to prove that they have the right to do this. At any rate, it seems that Bell is in the line for a good old fashioned backlashing!
This letter, really, answers nothing and proves that Bell is full of themselves. |
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Thats smaller then i thought it would be..
what bullcrap.. |
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"...but the majority of your end users will experience an increased level of satisfaction." then why may i ask have i never felt the effects of p2p packets slowing down my dsl? o wait thats because teksavvy can properly manage a network! i dont see increased satifaction i see pissed off customers getting there internet slowed down for reasons that comcast just admitted were wrong. screw bell and their lies. on another note, check it out » /archi ··· avvy.comim the fasted unthrottled user on teksavvy  |
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 mazhurg
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Rocky,
How do you like your new status as a Sympatico reseller, since it appears that this is what this letter appears to be saying even as it says wholesale... |
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join:2007-12-03
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Sounds like a bunch of smoke to me.. Kind of odd that they don't try and defend or justify their actions. It also doesn't sound like they have any real reason to do this other than to "make it fair" (i.e., if we have to do it so do you).
I love how they don't even tell mention the technology they are using. What is TekSavvy to do if this packet filtering starts affecting other services such as Gaming, Legit BT Traffic, VOIP, VPN, SSH, NNTP, etc.
Maybe they should take some of that $5 Million dollar raise they gave to Sabia and invest it in their infrastructure where it belongs. |
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*spits* thats what I think about that. |
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Anon
2008-Mar-28 8:40 pm
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I all ready had an increased level of satisfaction....PRIOR to your THROTTLING! Thanks Bell.... |
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LOL!
They say it as if third party ISPS really congest Bells network infrastructure to the point of a slowdown yet they show no proof. (Its not really true, in fact technically imposible considering the size of bells customer base to that of thrid party isps)
What they are doing is taking away third party isps competetive edge to make their own customers feel better. That is illegal. They can't handle the fact that third party isps actually make a profit based on their efficient and effective dsl package products.
Combined with the press and public outcry I can't see bell continuing this much longer. |
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Anon
2008-Mar-28 8:50 pm
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"We regret the fact that we did not advise you in advance of taking this action, but the action was necessary to allow for a more fair allocation of bandwidth for all Canadian internet users."
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"we are going to protect you and all your customers will be better off because of it"
What arrogance .... and what lies .... John sweeney ... he'll burn in hell for these lies once his time has come. Sooner rather than later.
It feels like the tone of a corporate parent talking to its affiliates not of a competitor.
Remember competition ? I guess they forgot all about it because they cant compete thus the only solution is to resort to throttling and playing god with other people's information. I guess the CRTC forgot the meaning of the word as well. |
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I got two words for them and they're a lot more helpful than that letter. |
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This letter reeks of "it's easier to do it and apologize than to ask permission (or even just give a heads up) prior to doing it." |
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Hey Rocky
Why dont you provide us with some key phone numbers for Bell so we can tell them just how satisfied we are |
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mazhurg
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said by forgotmypassword :
"We regret the fact that we did not advise you in advance of taking this action, but the action was necessary to allow for a more fair allocation of bandwidth for all Canadian internet users."
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Semantically, this sentence does not compute... Why was it neccessary to take this action whitout advising? How would not advising taking action allow for a fairer allocation of bandwith? |
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"We understand the difficulty this action has caused for you and your customers who are P2P users, but the majority of your end users will experience an increased level of satisfaction." Can you say Bull Sh*t |
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join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON |
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Step 1: Print letter
Step 2: Wipe ass with letter (watch out for paper cuts)
Step 3: Mail letter to:
Bell Canada
c/o John Sweeney
Floor 6N
483 Bay Street
Toronto, Ontario M5G 2C9
Step 4: ?
Step 5: Profit |
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said by sMURF:Step 1: Print letter Step 2: Wipe ass with letter (watch out for paper cuts) Step 3: Mail letter to: Bell Canada c/o John Sweeney Floor 6N 483 Bay Street Toronto, Ontario M5G 2C9 Step 4: ? Step 5: Profit Hmm that's a good idea but I was going to fax them an image of my butt on Monday. I've been meaning to break in the photocopier at work anyway. |
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said by BACONATOR26:said by sMURF:Step 1: Print letter Step 2: Wipe ass with letter (watch out for paper cuts) Step 3: Mail letter to: Bell Canada c/o John Sweeney Floor 6N 483 Bay Street Toronto, Ontario M5G 2C9 Step 4: ? Step 5: Profit Hmm that's a good idea but I was going to fax them an image of my butt on Monday. I've been meaning to break in the photocopier at work anyway. LOLLL =P careful though..they might just turn you in the next porn star and make money from your picture |
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"the majority of your end users will experience an increased level of satisfaction." --------------- Third party Internet providers are up in arms because of a new Bell high-speed Internet policy that slows service to some of their customers. Do you think ISPs that sell bandwidth to third parties have the right to "shape" that bandwidth? Yes, it's their pipe, they can do what they want 6% - 69 votes No, ISPs shouldn't restrict the flow of any data 94% - 1002 votes » www.theglobeandmail.com/ ··· teResult |
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The Flash
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those 69 votes were probably Bell management. |
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Anon
2008-Mar-28 9:04 pm
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Somehow I don't expect my email to john.sweeney@bell.ca is really going to cut it.
I'd rather I was given his home phone to more fully demonstrate my level of satisfaction.
At dinner hour, and all night long, and into the evening.
Just to be sure he actually didn't fail to perceive my level of satisfaction. |
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qewey
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2008-Mar-28 9:06 pm
you just need someone working at bell to go into the company directory to get his cell phone and office number .... just one disgruntled employee that can do it anonymously. |
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Anon
2008-Mar-28 9:07 pm
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I am pondering the word "regret".
Sweener is gonna regret many things... |
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JGROCKY
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JGROCKY
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2008-Mar-28 9:10 pm
said by regret :
I am pondering the word "regret".
Sweener is gonna regret many things...
This is a Bell issue... John is only the messenger in this. |
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Well Rock...then provide us with the right numbers to call!! |
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