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Anon
2008-Sep-2 2:51 pm
upload speed decreasesmy upload speed is capped at around 20-50 KB/s using utorrent,every thing is set right i am directly connected to the modem and enabled encryption, i used to get 90KB/s now can't seem to pass over 50. i do alot of torrenting maintaining my ratios. i am using utorrent 1.8 |
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noob
Anon
2008-Sep-2 8:49 pm
any1 anwsers? i tried other torrent download my upload speed is capped at 40 kB the max can't get higher than that, am i being throttled? i also phone shaw to ask if its because i am over the limit and they said no i am not over my limit and my line is good, i tried to play around the utorrent according to their forums, still no luck  need help badly i don't want to cancell this because i used to get upload speed around 92kB/s and i wanna have the same thing again |
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You're on Extreme I assume, right?. What are your downstream speeds like? |
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have you tried running the shaw speed test? |
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ObsidianParadox to noob
Anon
2008-Sep-4 6:40 am
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Ive had shaws extreme package for 4 months now and the exact same thing has happened to me just in the last week (Sept1-5.08). My upload speeds went from 100-129kb/s uploading to 50-60kb/s when using torrent applications. Ive tried randomizing my torrent tcp port every time, tried reassigning a new ip address by resetting my modem after changing my routers MAC, and by forcing ecryption of all my outgoing p2p packets. NOTHING has helped dodge the bandwidth throttling they are applying to my connection. Since in this case there is no way to fool the 'packet shaping' software and algorithms Im assuming this is manually applied by the system administrators on a per user basis. Because there is no way i could be caught otherwise. I guess they are (as of this week) selectively red flagging cable modem addresses of certain shaw cable users and rate capping speeds. If this continues for another week im dropping every service i have with shaw and switching cable companies. |
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Out of curiosity, what are the two of you getting for upload speeds through the Shaw and other speed tests?
And ObsidianParadox, Shaw is not selectively targetting you, nor throttling your connection. At present, this is not a practice of Shaw, and likely won't be within the foreseeable future.
Why is it everytime something changes slightly everyone thinks the 'big bad corporation' is out to get them? |
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said by CogitoSum:Why is it everytime something changes slightly everyone thinks the 'big bad corporation' is out to get them? Couldn't agree with you more Cogito. Paranoia may be a factor. |
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said by inetspec:said by CogitoSum:Why is it everytime something changes slightly everyone thinks the 'big bad corporation' is out to get them? Couldn't agree with you more Cogito. Paranoia may be a factor. I think its lack of knowledge...mixed with people thinking they know everything. |
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Ikarasu join:2004-01-09 Port Coquitlam, BC |
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said by CogitoSum:And ObsidianParadox, Shaw is not selectively targetting you, nor throttling your connection. At present, this is not a practice of Shaw, and likely won't be within the foreseeable future. Hm? » shaw SLOW upload speed with bittorentI've seen many posts about shaw throttling... and even some showing shaw admitted to it. Why else would they have DPI boxes? I don't actively follow it, so I'm not sure the specifics... some say it's done in saturated areas only, which may be the truth.. but who's the say the OP isn't in a saturated area? I doubt theyre picking on certain users, more like certain over subscribed areas. |
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In saturated areas there is throttling, but it's a blanket throttle for all non time sensitive information. They do not target P2P traffic specifically.
People post about a lot of things. It doesn't mean there's a lick of truth to their speculation. |
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It also doesn't mean someone is being paranoid :P
He might be in one of the saturated areas. Upload suddenly dropping speed in half suggests throttling, or node being too full...And if they throttle uploads for nodes being full, then it stands to reason he's probably being throttled . |
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That was not what he was implying... nor blatantly stating. Regardless, I agree with you completely on the latter part, though those are not the only potential causes. |
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torrential to noob
Anon
2008-Sep-15 5:48 am
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Same thing here, used to upload torrents at 115 KBs, now usually 20-30. and this happened around sept 1 or so. I still get about 115kBs uploading to rapidshare.
My utorrent has the encryption on, but I heard deluge and some chinese torrent thingee have better encryption methods, but deluge for windows doesnt work for me and I dont see a deluge for the version of linux I have (hardy hotrod) as for the chinese one, just got a bunch of crazy adds, couldn't get any torrents going, might have helped if I understood chinese.
If I find something that works Ill report it here, and IF someone else finds anything I hope they do the same |
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iamthejeff to noob
Anon
2008-Sep-15 11:44 am
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Same problem for me (Edmonton).
I have the high-speed package and have been using torrents for years without problem. Suddenly around the beginning of this month I cannot get over 10kb/sec uploads when I used to max out my upload speed (60kb/sec). This is true even when I am the only seeder on a particular torrent, so it's not just a case of trying to seed an already overseeded torrent.
Various speed tests show that my speeds are normal, it's just BT traffic that is getting the axe. |
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I have exactly the same problem. At the time I just installed a new router and I assumed that was the problem. 3 weeks trying to sort out a problem that turns out to be Shaw. Three other friends have noticed the same problem. Utterly disgraceful. |
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I contacted Shaw, it took them nearly two days to respond only to have them not answer my question as to whether they are shaping bittorrent or not. All they told me is that I should be getting faster speeds and that it is a problem at my end. I have run torrents in both windows and linux with identical results so it is not OS dependent. I got a short burst of 90kB/s last night for about 5 minutes so connection is capable.
Bye Bye Shaw, getting a Teksavvy line connected next week. I have many friends at uni who are also having the same problem and are all going to jump the shaw ship in the next few weeks. If you are not happy with Shaw do not ring up and abuse them or act inpolite. Taking your business elsewhere is the only thing that they understand. If I convince 10 people to leave shaw who have a connection similar to mine that is $7000 a year out of shaws pockets. |
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Enjoy having to abide by Telus' laws, then. In Alberta, Teksavvy has to get its bandwidth from Telus, just as it has to get it from Rogers out in the east, and thus is subject to the same at-whim rules and caps. |
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anonedmon
Anon
2008-Sep-18 6:02 am
I am on Shaw Extreme in Edmonton. I can report upload speeds working perfectly fine here on private torrent tracker. |
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bcguy to noob
Anon
2008-Sep-29 1:33 am
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I'm not sure if I have noticed decreased upload speeds but when I try to stream to my shoutcast server, I get an error "can not send data fast enough" they keep telling me its on my end but i highly doubt it or its the servers, yet the servers work fine for everyone else that streams. I upgraded, bought new router... still the same problem. I'm very cheesed, had no problem 3/4 weeks ago. |
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cgyuser
Anon
2008-Sep-29 7:08 pm
I have the same problem. Only yesterday has the upload speed recovered to 90k/sec but im not sure for how long. i also find that my download speed on well seeded torrents (mvgroup.org) where i would normally download btw 300-400k/sec go at a maximum 60k/sec per torrent if im lucky...
There is definitely something going on.. Since Sept started is when i noticed the decrease in speed. This was the same time when i upgraded to SP3.. could it be SP3 possibly? My tcp half open connections are set at 80 so its not that bottleneck..
speedtest.net reports my download speeds at 15 meg down with PB and ~980k up.. |
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CR1239 join:2006-11-04 Vancouver, BC 3 edits |
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said by AnonShawUser:Enjoy having to abide by Telus' laws, then. In Alberta, Teksavvy has to get its bandwidth from Telus, just as it has to get it from Rogers out in the east, and thus is subject to the same at-whim rules and caps. Teksavvy gets its' *last mile* bandwidth from Bell out east, not Rogers. TELUS isn't throttling wholesale DSL subscribers right now. No caps, either, if you mean monthly caps imposed by TELUS on wholesalers. |
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Seems like my shaw is getting some new kind of throttling, in utorrent the upload won't go past 25kbps no matter what, download speeds are ok and can get to the 1mbps they usually do, yesterday and prior upload was always 100kbps maxed out.
I ran a speed test and a test to find out if your isp is throttling torrents and both came back ok and also other things upload fine at around 100kbps but it's only utorrent, encryption is on but it doesn't do anything anymore.
I've tried reinstalling the program and different ports but it's the same? Anyone experienced anything similar or found a way around this? |
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In Vancouver, Marpole area... for the last month or so I cannot get more than 10 kbps upload and downloads are also restricted, cannot get more than 80 kbps or so. Encryption doesn't work. I've limited download speed when seeding but that didn't work either. I called tech support to ask if I had reached my monthly limit, but tech said I was far from it and still under. |
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