Microsoft → Re: [Vista] Anyway to download an .iso of vista

Microsoft does not offer the Vista 64-bit ISO for download (at least not to the general public). The only way would be to copy the 64-bit DVD from a friend or grab a 64-bit ISO off of a bit torrent site. Since you need a legitimate key to activate it, I don't see a problem although it may be a bit less than legitimate.

I have a legitimate key, but I really don't want to download it illegally, even if it would be for legal use. Thanks for the advice though.

Your suggesting he break the both the copyright law and the digital copyright law by getting a copy of the software from another souce like his friend or bit torrent, I though this site was against people who talk about were to get warez or how they should get their warez from... You of all people should not be suggesting these things since you list in the USA yourself.. I know a good a site that works closely with all levels of law enforcement... bsa.org

Leathal

I'll argue that this whole "no more media" thing is stupid. I liked the old method where you could send Microsoft Canada your old floppy disks and they would send you back a CD for free.

I think I'm going a bit back for that one though

He already paid for it. He is doing nothing illegal by downloading it or burning it.

Well, a buck is a buck...but to me, $19.95 is not that big a deal to get a guaranteed "clean" copy.

I don't think that anybody was advocating "ripping off" anyone here...just looking for a reasonable solution to the OP's problem.

Vista isn't worth the money I paid for in the first place... but you expect someone who's been screwed badly enough by vista and who has a legitimate key to have to pay more money for a fricken DVD?

Whatever... I have a microsoft vista 32bit cd and I could make a million copies of it and give it out to a million people and they could buy a million keys and none of it would be illegal (microsoft would probably be happy too because of how badly vista is selling... just look at how hare they're trying with their stupid mohave setup.)

Well, maybe the OP can just burn a clean copy of Vista from someone they know then... Cheap, clean, and easy.

Is this some kind of threat?

Grow up. He has a legitimate license and Microsoft couldn't care less where he gets the media from as long as he has a legit license.

good thing the dmca isnt a real law.

How is it illegal to use a copy of Windows you purchased directly from Microsoft?

It's one thing to say I want a free copy $200 for Windows is overpriced and it's another to say I paid $200 for this and I want to use it. Fine line, but it does exist.

Thanks mom.

DVDs cost money to press, package, and label.

Your right it's not right to pay more for different media however its even more wrong to be telling people on a website that's located in the USA and that is very popular on the internet that it's okay to copy your friends DVD and or download a DVD version from a warez bit-torrent stream. He should have simply MSG the guy to setup a trade, because the last time I looked in the USA you can be charged under the criminal code for copying CDs, tapes, any and all digital media.

I feel sorry for the Americans.. Here in Canada many years ago the Copyright Board of Canada decided to put a tariff on all electronic recording devices, and media to try and recover some of the cost from piracy... And even until recently we were able to walk into a movie theatre with our digital video cameras and record the movie we where watching by law!

You just have remember which side this site sits on.

Leathal

In the USA it clearly states in both the Copyright Law and Digital Copyright Law that its against the law to copy digital medium, that means, audio CDs, software CDs and DVDs... It's so tight in the US that Pioneer cant even sell their DVD/HDD units because it would be infringing on the law.

So before you tell me to grow up.. you read your laws and then come back and talk!

Leathal

Again.. Check your laws, is all there in black and white!

Leathal

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmca

Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the U.S. Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright...

Not a real law eh?

Leathal

The BSA cannot enter private property for whatever reason they desire. They can request law enforcement but even law enforcement has to have a search warrant unless there is physical evidence of a crime. For the BSA to even consider getting law enforcement involved it would require that the BSA provide evidence to a judge.

As for a personal residence if the BSA showed up you could tell them to leave. If they did not, or returned, you could have the BSA arrested for trespassing.

The BSA is basically worthless.

I guess you did not read enough and missed the part about personal use and fair use.Isn't this like the pot calling the kettle black? I would suggest you go back and read more about fair use and copying for personal use allowances. Me thinks you do indeed need a little growing up.

no copyright law broken if he has the COA license. Does not matter where the media comes from.

WALL_E,

I was going to stay out of this when I saw Leathal make his post. It caught me off guard and I can not ever remember Leathal making a post like that. My first knee jerk response was for whatever reason he was trolling for an argument.

I am very glad to see people took his comments for what they are worth - nothing. And I like you was wondering if the mention bsa.org was suppose to intimidate us. So I visited the site and here is a snippet from their site:

"What a lot of people don't realize or don't think about is that when you purchase software, you are actually purchasing a license to use it, not the actual software."

While this snippet is out of context, it definitely represents The site's attitude and I am sure the site at M$ that sells you the CD tells you that you are paying the $19 dollars for shipping and handling, not the software that is on it.

Anyway I just realized that someones Trolling exercise is working on me so I'll quit - but tanks for your post WALL_E - well put !!!

“If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble,… “the law is a ass—a idiot.”

Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist, chapter 51, p. 489 (1970). First published serially 1837–1839.

No. It states that it is illegal to circumvent copy protection in most cases.

The copying of a Windows DVD (the disc itself is not copy protected -- it can be freely copied) is not illegal if it is used to install a valid Windows license.

DVD Video are discs that contain encrypted (CSS) MPEG video.