Topic 'Re: What Channels?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726162 en Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:11:49 EDT Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:11:49 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21733903
I'd switch if I could so I could get 2 per QAM HD. My current cable provider (Service Electric) is OK with its HD offerings but has a few channels on 3 per QAM here.

$1/month is still more than what DirecTV charges. But it's irrelevant to me anyway since I don't watch premium channels anymore. In fact I hardly even watch basic cable. I mostly watch the big 4. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21733903 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:00:42 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21733060 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21733060 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:40:38 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21731619 Anyway, as the article said, all FIOS TV markets now have over 100 HD channels (or will very soon, a few- MGM HD, Hallmark Movie Channel HD, etc- still say not subscribed).

And FIOS beats Comcast in every way. You wouldn't dare set your watch by the time on the cable box (although it was right at least twice a day), we kept getting disconnected from their VOD, the guide data was sometimes missing for days or was agonizingly slow to update. After a number of new boxes and wiring fixes that did no good, we got FIOS TV when it was first available in our area. FIOS rocks!
Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21731619 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:37:17 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21731147 said by coolpfeif:

Do you get 10 HBO channels in HD? That was the comment. I only get 1 HBO HD.
How did I not get that? Lol! :huh:
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So, let me see if I got this straight... Verizon is crappy because it's cable, but TWC is the same as Verizon, but it's great because it doesn't have the channels or capacity that FiOS does, but that's ok, because FiOS is JUST cable, which is what you also have... Sorry, this is making me dizzy. Yes the FCC classifies it as cable, and you're point is... what? YOU'RE a cable customer too, right? So, if Verizon is crappy because it's just glorified cable... then what you have sucks too, right? Just so I understand things.


My point is, for the most point you Verizon fan boys, think you're oh so goddamn special with your fancy fiber shit when in fact it more or less the same cable TV that's been around for 30 years.

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I also love the FTTN = FTTP stuff. I see that all the time. If fiber is no big deal, then why are companies like Comcast advertizing their fiber network? Why do they advertize that they have more fiber than Verizon?


Fiber is the key word. Verizon targets the dumbest individuals on the planet with marketing. It's all marketing and the domino effect, one lame company (Verizon) advertises they have something and other good companies (Comcast, Time Warner, Cox) have to compete as not to let Satan get one step in front of them when wooing customers.

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Point is, Verizon's architecture gives them (currently) more bandwidth than anyone. Based on their current architecture, they could carry 150 HD channels (all without additional compression) and still have room for more than 500 SD channels (again, all without additional compression). But I'm sure TWC can do that too, right?


Switched Digital Video can do the same. And with a 42" HDTV and a 55" HDTV in the house, I could careless if we ever see another SD channel.

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Also that little fiber to the premises thing gives them a mother of a pipeline going to your home. Upgrade the equipment at the CO and the ONT on your house, and they can keep increasing bandwidth. You know, just like TWC can... oh, wait...


TW can upgrade the equipment at the plant as well, upgrade the node and nothing in my house so your point....

Verizon is garbage, but you fan boys can defend them using the spoon-fed information they brainwashed you with and make me laugh. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21730547 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:48:11 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21730469 said by ITALIAN926:

FioS blows away Time warner cable in every single department, phone internet and TV ! Are you kidding ??sorry buddy. Verizon has 100+ HD channels !

I was just notifed by cablevision that they are dropping 15 HD channels this month ! How sad ! Fios , come to me ! damn !
They are dropping them because they will no longer be in existence. It's kind of hard to carry a channel that doesn't exist anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21730469 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:35:28 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21730282
I also love the FTTN = FTTP stuff. I see that all the time. If fiber is no big deal, then why are companies like Comcast advertizing their fiber network? Why do they advertize that they have more fiber than Verizon? Point is, Verizon's architecture gives them (currently) more bandwidth than anyone. Based on their current architecture, they could carry 150 HD channels (all without additional compression) and still have room for more than 500 SD channels (again, all without additional compression). But I'm sure TWC can do that too, right?

Also that little fiber to the premises thing gives them a mother of a pipeline going to your home. Upgrade the equipment at the CO and the ONT on your house, and they can keep increasing bandwidth. You know, just like TWC can... oh, wait...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21730282 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:02:00 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729871
I was just notifed by cablevision that they are dropping 15 HD channels this month ! How sad ! Fios , come to me ! damn !]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729871 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:50:21 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729375
I'm positive that a vast majority of comcast customers are runnign through sub-par cabling and while it may work just fine for the spectrum they're using it won't work with higher frequencies.

Also they'd have to put a trap on at the tap to prevent the 1150 mhz from backfeeding into their cable system.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729375 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:24:47 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729337 And with SD FIOS beat Comcast on every channel.
said by Happydude32:

Verizon can bite me, Fios isn't available in my area yet, but if/when it ever is, they can keep their shitty over glorified cable service. All Verizon Fios is, is a cable TV service, nothing special, just fiber runs to the home, not the node. The FCC even classifies it as cable TV.

In my area Time Warner offers 54 HD channel, not including four that have been mentioned specifically as coming soon as in the next few weeks, Big Ten Network HD, MLB Network HD, USA Network HD and Sci Fi HD. Out of Verizon's even 60 non premium HD channels, there are 11 TW in my area doesn't carry or have immediate plans to carry, out of those 11, there are only 6 that TW doesn't have contracts for, NFL Network HD, MAV TV HD, WFN HD, Wealth HD, WGN America HD and Smithsonian Channel HD. The other 5 are CNBC HD, Bravo HD, QVC HD, The Weather Channel HD and my local CW HD and they have contracts for them and I expect to see them add in the coming weeks.

As for as the movie channels, Verizon offers 42 of them in HD, while I get four with Time Warner, but TW has contracts for all of those movie channels in HD and I think they will be added at some point in the near futures as well. But, HBO Latino West HD, is not exactly high on my list of HD wants at the moment. Where Verizon comes up short is on MSG HD. Time Warner also has agreements with Rainbow Media, Comcast and I'm guessing Viacom now for their HD channels. Time Warner Cable could easily blow Dish Network, DirecTV and yes even the almighty pathetic Verizon away in HD offerings in every market they upgraded to SDV, only question is why haven't they yet, and when will they.

Verizon Fios is nothing special, it's a lackluster service with big marketing, like all things Verizon. Verizon will continue to bleed POTS customers to VoIP, specifically cable telephony and their Dead Slow Line speeds are laughable. Verizon has lost more voice customers to cable, then cable will lose video customers to Verizon.

Verizon Fios Phone, Verizon Fios Broadband, Verizon Fios TV, Verizon DSL, Verizon VoiceWing will NEVER EVER be in my house and as soon as I can, Verizon POTS will be history. May God have eternal damnation on all things related to Verizon, especally Verizon Wireless, even tough it's a seperate entity.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21729337 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:19:52 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21728908 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21728908 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:11:08 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21728475 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21728475 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:51:03 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21728373
In my area Time Warner offers 54 HD channel, not including four that have been mentioned specifically as coming soon as in the next few weeks, Big Ten Network HD, MLB Network HD, USA Network HD and Sci Fi HD. Out of Verizon's even 60 non premium HD channels, there are 11 TW in my area doesn't carry or have immediate plans to carry, out of those 11, there are only 6 that TW doesn't have contracts for, NFL Network HD, MAV TV HD, WFN HD, Wealth HD, WGN America HD and Smithsonian Channel HD. The other 5 are CNBC HD, Bravo HD, QVC HD, The Weather Channel HD and my local CW HD and they have contracts for them and I expect to see them add in the coming weeks.

As for as the movie channels, Verizon offers 42 of them in HD, while I get four with Time Warner, but TW has contracts for all of those movie channels in HD and I think they will be added at some point in the near futures as well. But, HBO Latino West HD, is not exactly high on my list of HD wants at the moment. Where Verizon comes up short is on MSG HD. Time Warner also has agreements with Rainbow Media, Comcast and I'm guessing Viacom now for their HD channels. Time Warner Cable could easily blow Dish Network, DirecTV and yes even the almighty pathetic Verizon away in HD offerings in every market they upgraded to SDV, only question is why haven't they yet, and when will they.

Verizon Fios is nothing special, it's a lackluster service with big marketing, like all things Verizon. Verizon will continue to bleed POTS customers to VoIP, specifically cable telephony and their Dead Slow Line speeds are laughable. Verizon has lost more voice customers to cable, then cable will lose video customers to Verizon.

Verizon Fios Phone, Verizon Fios Broadband, Verizon Fios TV, Verizon DSL, Verizon VoiceWing will NEVER EVER be in my house and as soon as I can, Verizon POTS will be history. May God have eternal damnation on all things related to Verizon, especally Verizon Wireless, even tough it's a seperate entity.
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said by jmn1207:

said by LeftOfSanity:

What are the channels?
Here is what I had with Comcast:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
AMC HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD

Here is what I now have with FiOS:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD
MPT HD
WGN America HD
HD Net
ESPN U HD
ESPN News HD
Big Ten Network HD
NHL Network HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Tennis Channel HD
World Fishing Network HD
MAV TV HD
CNBC HD
Fox Business Network HD
The Weather Channel HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Biography Channel HD
HD Theater
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
QVC HD
HSN HD
Planet Green HD
Wealth TV HD
Travel Channel HD
Bravo HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
MGM HD
HD Net Movies
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Encore HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime Showcase HD
Showtime Showcase West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Showtime 2 West HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Extreame West HD
The Movie Channel HD
The Movie Channel West HD
The Movie Channel Xtra HD
The Movie Channel Xtra West HD
HBO West HD
HBO 2 HD
HBO 2 West HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Signature West HD
HBO Family HD
HBO Family West HD
HBO Comedy HD
HBO Comedy West HD
HBO Zone HD
HBO Zone West HD
Cinemax West HD
More Max HD
More Max West HD
Action Max HD
Action Max West HD
Thriller Max HD
Thriller Max West HD
WMAX HD
At Max HD
OuterMax HD


With FiOS, I am only missing the AMC HD channel in High Def, but I do have this channel is SD. A cable company owns this channel and is being stubborn about letting FiOS have it.

There are also about 6 or more new HD channels in my guide that are supposedly coming soon. (Comedy TV HD, Pets TV HD, Recipe TV HD, NBA HD, and a few others)

I have 50/20 internet speeds ($89.95) and the whole package is less than what I was paying for Comcast services.

Edit: Channels were placed in bold text that were on both services.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726861 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:33:57 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726761 said by JPL:

said by fifty nine:

said by ITALIAN926:

If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !

:)
I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO.

I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums.
I was like that too, but FiOS actually has great prices on their movie pack. I'm still grandfathered into my original cost of $13/month, but even the current price (I think it's gone up $1) is a great price for what you get. That gets you access to all the Starz, Showtime, TMC, Encore, Flix, IFC, and Sundance channels (some 47 SD channels in all), as well as all the corresponding HD channels and VOD. HBO and Cinemax are priced higher, and are separate from the movie pack, but they're very much in line with other providers.
Their prices are $15.99/month for HBO. My cable provider gets it for $14/month. DirecTV has it for the same price (and has a lot of the same channels as FiOS).

Skinamax et al are $1 more on FiOS than they are on cable.

While it's nice they can provide the additional channels, it seems to be more expensive. Plus $16/month in this economy is a nice savings.

I guess it may be different for people who spend a lot of time in front of the TV, but for me not worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726761 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:19:21 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726583 said by fifty nine:

said by ITALIAN926:

If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !

:)
I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO.

I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums.
I was like that too, but FiOS actually has great prices on their movie pack. I'm still grandfathered into my original cost of $13/month, but even the current price (I think it's gone up $1) is a great price for what you get. That gets you access to all the Starz, Showtime, TMC, Encore, Flix, IFC, and Sundance channels (some 47 SD channels in all), as well as all the corresponding HD channels and VOD. HBO and Cinemax are priced higher, and are separate from the movie pack, but they're very much in line with other providers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726583 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:47:10 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726550 said by LeftOfSanity:

What are the channels? Here is what I had with Comcast:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
AMC HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD

Here is what I now have with FiOS:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD
MPT HD
WGN America HD
HD Net
ESPN U HD
ESPN News HD
Big Ten Network HD
NHL Network HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Tennis Channel HD
World Fishing Network HD
MAV TV HD
CNBC HD
Fox Business Network HD
The Weather Channel HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Biography Channel HD
HD Theater
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
QVC HD
HSN HD
Planet Green HD
Wealth TV HD
Travel Channel HD
Bravo HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
MGM HD
HD Net Movies
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Encore HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime Showcase HD
Showtime Showcase West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Showtime 2 West HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Extreame West HD
The Movie Channel HD
The Movie Channel West HD
The Movie Channel Xtra HD
The Movie Channel Xtra West HD
HBO West HD
HBO 2 HD
HBO 2 West HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Signature West HD
HBO Family HD
HBO Family West HD
HBO Comedy HD
HBO Comedy West HD
HBO Zone HD
HBO Zone West HD
Cinemax West HD
More Max HD
More Max West HD
Action Max HD
Action Max West HD
Thriller Max HD
Thriller Max West HD
WMAX HD
At Max HD
OuterMax HD


With FiOS, I am only missing the AMC HD channel in High Def, but I do have this channel is SD. A cable company owns this channel and is being stubborn about letting FiOS have it.

There are also about 6 or more new HD channels in my guide that are supposedly coming soon. (Comedy TV HD, Pets TV HD, Recipe TV HD, NBA HD, and a few others)

I have 50/20 internet speeds ($89.95) and the whole package is less than what I was paying for Comcast services.

Edit: Channels were placed in bold text that were on both services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726550 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:41:36 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726549 said by ITALIAN926:

If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !

:)
I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO.

I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726549 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:41:25 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726374 said by JPL:

Here's a good comparison chart:

»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/ ··· =1058081

Note, this only includes national channels. In addition to these, every market has local HD channels, as well as RSNs - right now I think we're up to ~105 HD channels for our market (I actually lost count).
Thanks for the link. That shows HD coverage very well.
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said by ITALIAN926:

If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !

:)
Well the Comcast system here already has the multiple Premium channels. You get like 10 HBO's 8 SHO's etc etc.

So fios isnt special there. I was wondering what the 100 channels were.
Here's a good comparison chart:

»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/ ··· =1058081

Note, this only includes national channels. In addition to these, every market has local HD channels, as well as RSNs - right now I think we're up to ~105 HD channels for our market (I actually lost count).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726339 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:57:33 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726291 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726291 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:49:29 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726280 said by ITALIAN926:

If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !

:)
Well the Comcast system here already has the multiple Premium channels. You get like 10 HBO's 8 SHO's etc etc.

So fios isnt special there. I was wondering what the 100 channels were.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726280 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:47:56 EDT Re: What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726182
:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-What-Channels-21726182 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:28:41 EDT What Channels? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/What-Channels-21726162
Arent the channels pretty much the same across providers?

I mean besides the locals, you have your regulars like MTA,VH1,A&E, FoodTV, HBO, Sho, Starz, TMC, Skin-a-max, are they just making those HD or are they new channels?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/What-Channels-21726162 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:25:12 EDT