 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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Re: also more stupidsaid by dda:said by wifi4milez:The onus is just as much on you to prove that you didnt however, especially if documents are subpoenaed by a court. Er, no. You cannot prove a negative and the onus is (or should be!) very much on them to prove you broke the law. Having "probable cause" or a suspicion that you did something wrong helps but, in the end, if there is no evidence of wrong-doing, it's worth fighting. You just contradicted yourself with that statement. Its been pointed out time and time agian on this website that you can be accused of pirating, and that it becomes YOUR issue to prove otherwise. I am not saying you wont win in court, however spending time and money on an attorney is a real pain in the neck. |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO |
Lazlow
Member
2009-Apr-9 4:02 pm
wifi4milez
You keep ignoring the obvious. IF you get a prepaid credit card (every Walmart sells them) bought with cash, there is no money trail. PB is charging monthly so they have no need to keep any records as to what IP a user is coming from and they have said that they will not keep such records. Now if you cannot tie activity to an IP and there is no money trail, how are you going to track them? There are legal uses for PB so you cannot say that just becuase there is a link from your machine to PB that any illegal activity is going on. Because PB has gone to court and not settled, they have a reputation that the community can and will trust. |
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dda
Premium Member
join:2003-12-29
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to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:You just contradicted yourself with that statement. I don't see how I contradicted myself; I've always maintained that (at least in the US), you're innocent until proven guilty. I also know that nothing is perfect and there are plenty of miscarriages of justice so yes, in the end, if someone comes knocking on my door, I'm going to get an attorney (which I'm not) and fight it. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY |
to Lazlow
said by Lazlow:wifi4milez You keep ignoring the obvious. IF you get a prepaid credit card (every Walmart sells them) bought with cash, there is no money trail. Agreed, however at what point does the effort required to pirate make it no longer worth your time? |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO |
Lazlow
Member
2009-Apr-9 5:37 pm
That is just it. The effort is still minimal. Putting $7(or whatever the actual price is) on a prepaid CC is not much of an effort. Most of us go to Walmart(or other similiar store) at least once a month. Is the extra two minutes it requires to put money on the card really significant? |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY |
said by Lazlow:That is just it. The effort is still minimal. Putting $7(or whatever the actual price is) on a prepaid CC is not much of an effort. Most of us go to Walmart(or other similiar store) at least once a month. Is the extra two minutes it requires to put money on the card really significant? I guess its more the principle of the whole thing. You are now willing to pay money in order to steal content, and if thats your thing then cheers. |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO
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Lazlow
Member
2009-Apr-9 5:51 pm
There you go making assumptions again.
"You are now willing to pay money in order to steal content,"
I do not p2p.
Insert usual discussion on infringement vs stealing.
Depending on how it is implemented TB's product could also be used to circumvent Australia's (and other countries) goofy black lists (post anonymous in general). |
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