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moonpuppy (banned)
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Re: Now isn't the time...

said by hottboiinnc4:

That's google. Hell I would have done the same with Google as much bullshit they do. Can't use Google Voice for voicemail but yet they market the product for that? Com'on.
So anyone can setup their own network unless it is someone you don't like?

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Can someone identify/source this image? I want to use it in future projects.

NM, found it! And it's in the public domain! It's listed in the Book of Old New York. Henry Collins Brown. 1913.

Fascinating article is here.
Skippy25
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Wait, I am confused..... so in one post you argue cable built their network all by them self and didnt have any "incentives or benefits" so it is "theirs". Then in this post you argue they were granted a monopoly because it was the only way to get it going back then.

So which is it? They either did it all by them self, or they were "given" a revenue stream to make their company capable of deploying the service and expanding and thus become the PoS monopoly / duopoly they are.

Once you figure that one out, then you can explain to the rest of us how it was they needed to be given this incentive to create the original networks, but yet you now claim just anybody can come on in to this industry without these benefits to create competition. So in the beginning when there was no competition it was harder to get going than now when there is already a duopoly / monopoly AND competition?

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Re: Building out our own network - great idea

said by hottboiinnc4:

... They sued when it started to come down to tax-payer money. You have choices, I have choices, if you don't like the choices, change providers or BUILD OUT your own network. And thanks to VZ fiber is getting cheaper.
EXCELLENT! That's just what we as a community should be able to do without some outsiders sticking their noses in our local home rule government.

Our community has local government owned and controlled schools, water, sewer, streets, traffic control, emergency medical services, street lighting, law enforcement and fire protection. We also spend taxpayer money to build out this infrastructure and capacity to attract and retain businesses and encourage residential growth.

So, it should be our choice if we as taxpayers want to include internet infrastructure in our package of public services for our schools libraries and public facilities, and to attract and protect business, residential and economic growth.

VZ fiber hasn't made one whit of a difference here, since they aren't and won't be here in the foreseeable future. So, we should have the right to use our own local tax money to build our own services without you folks telling us how to run our community and spend our tax money.
CJ777
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Los Angeles, CA

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Re: Now isn't the time...

said by mod_wastrel:

Actually, "you"--as in every customer of the franchise did pay for it. The amount of profit, let alone revenue, generated from customers has many-times-over paid for "their" network. But you're right: you aren't "required" to use their service (and you aren't required to access the Internet). However, you may be required to pay for its support by way of your tax dollars going to the franchise (though you can expect most of that money will go into the pockets of executives and investors--which one are you?).
AMEN to that!!!
bigjoesmith
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Good find. That article is fascinating, indeed.

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To the contrary. TWC is the only provider available in a lot of areas. they have done everything in their power to keep competing companies out... I can only get TWC in my area if I want Cable. I am stuck with DSL atm, because TWC tells me it would be 6k to run a line to my house, and there are no other providers other than crappy phones...

So, most are forced to use their network. Also, the idea that this is for QoS is ridiculous. They just need to upgrade their network to compete with that of Japan! Seriously... 100mbps on average, where as we get about 3 on average... its pathetic.

Simba7
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If you really want to complain, look at Hong Kong.

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