Cablevision: 101Mbps For $99.95 → Re: Good for consumer, bad for stockholder

give it a short time and CV will start bonding upstream channels and fios will have to work really hard to catch up.

Right, give me a break. FiOS is just using a router, which already easily reach much faster upload speeds. Even bonded with new modems, cable is nowhere close to having competitive potential upload performance. Perhaps a small trial area might get to half the upload of a GPON, but they are years away from being a widespread legitimate threat.

The whole point is CV is doing it NOW.

Where's FiOS at? Will they do 100/15? Doubtful. If they really want to compete, they'd have to do 100/20, 100/25 or 100/33 (1:5, 1:4 or 1:3 Ratios).

Still.. Thumbs up for CV. Finally, a company with balls.

CV is doing this in a few weeks. FiOS upgrades are supposed to roll out in late June and into July. The 50/20 package is reportedly going to 75/25, and I currently pay $89.95 per month for it. Verizon may change this in CV regions. We just found out today about this new CV plan.

I don't see that much interest in this package. Hardly anyone opts for the $90 FiOS tier in my area. If Verizon feels this is a significant threat, it would be relatively easy to match or exceed this new CV offering.

do you have proof of these supposed vz upgrades?you have access to vz customer database and know how many people get which package?but will they...?
considering vz still doesn't offer fios here and their best dsl can't keep 3mbit sync, i don't see vz doing much.

The same person that told us about the last upgrades, including the new speeds and the time frame of the changes, also let us know about the upcoming new plans scheduled for this June/July. Obviously this is all speculation, but considering the source, it seems reliable. This person was spot-on with the last FiOS speed upgrades.I can only take a sample of users that I frequently interact with in the Verizon forums and here. Most of the users do not have the 50/20 package. It's safe to assume that this can be used as a benchmark for overall FiOS access, just like any other unscientific poll based off a smaller sample of people. Most FiOS customers go for the bundled savings, which means an overwhelming majority of them have the 20/5 package. I'm so confident in this, that I feel there is no need to try and dig up any factual evidence, provided that I could even find any. If you look at the speed test result archives on this site for FiOS, you will see further proof that most users have the standard 20/5 package.I'm sorry that FiOS can't instantly be everywhere, you're missing out. Still, availability has nothing to do with Verizon's plans in existing FiOS areas. Where FiOS is available, Verizon is not the one scrambling to try and come up with technology that allows them to compete. That would be cable. They are practically maxing-out the latest available technology just to come up with competitive offerings to challenge FiOS.

Everywhere that FiOS has competition with cable, they have a comparable speed package for every cable package. I see no reason why Verizon would not continue to do this going forward. I'm sure Verizon will want to evaluate the impact of this new Cablevision plan for a short time before deciding how to act. If they have to, they will make a new package for customers that effectively competes with this 101Mbps package. If it is determined that it has very little impact on Verizon's pocketbook, they won't bother. Regardless, it is no major technical feat for FiOS to be able to provide much faster speeds, both up and down, that greatly surpass the best that Cablevision can deliver at this time.

i don't know wtf you are talking about.
show url proof.

and yet again, you are comparing POTENTIAL of fios with what cv CURRENTLY offers.
comeback when vz actually does have something this fast.
plus go read up on what coax deployments are actually capable of.

Sorry, you're just not going to find anything official regarding new speed upgrades from Verizon until they are ready to publicly announce them. I got my information right from the Verizon forums on this site. Search if you much, but it won't be any more legitimate than my comments here.

Verizon has been testing 100Mbps connections for months now with their employees, so they do already have something this fast, it's just not available to consumers at this time. This is a huge corporation, nothing happens overnight. Cablevision just announced that they will be offering this new package in a couple of weeks. Verizon is not going to immediately make a counter. They might not even need to unless they lose a lot of business because of the new CV package. Soon, to Verizon, might be a month or several months.

Are you suggesting that the current cable coaxial infrastructures are capable of providing similar bandwidth to 32/64 users sharing 2.4Gbps down and 1.2Gbps up? I can't find anything that suggests existing coaxial technology being implemented today by any major US cable company is capable of matching anything close to FiOS' potential. Maybe you should provide a link. I love reading about technology, and would enjoy learning about this actual capability that I can't seem to find.

existing coax vs fios' potential..
oh how nicely you twist words.
why don't you talk what's available RIGHT NOW, not potential in indeterminate future.

getting rid of all analog signals will allow docsis setup to run at 1Gbit/s speeds
even back in 2006 a Norwegian isp deployed 300mbit docsis service for just $120/month