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hayabusa3303
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Re: Router Upgrades?

said by cdru:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

I will never admin a network with a residential router...I will only buy Linksys WRT54GL routers
Contradict yourself much?
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

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said by hayabusa3303:

said by cdru:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

I will never admin a network with a residential router...I will only buy Linksys WRT54GL routers
Contradict yourself much?
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I didn't contradict myself? I said I installed DD-WRT, unless of course you didn't read my post very carefully and only wanted to take me out of context.

PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

I didn't contradict myself? I said I installed DD-WRT, unless of course you didn't read my post very carefully and only wanted to take me out of context.
DD-WRT is a third-party firmware written for consumer level devices. Especially added with the fact that you're running it on a WRT54GL. So yeah, you contradicted yourself.

If you said something like m0n0wall or pfSense (Which I run) on an x86, then yeah, that's not consumer level.

And before you starting going goo-goo-gah-gah for DD-WRT, don't forget that many of the devices its meant for can't even use IPv6 since they've apparently decided those users with gimped FLASH roms aren't good enough to spend the time writing the extra bit of code to support IPv6. Even, at minimal, IPv6 Encapsulation is not supported.
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Homer Glen, IL

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said by PapaMidnight:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

I didn't contradict myself? I said I installed DD-WRT, unless of course you didn't read my post very carefully and only wanted to take me out of context.
DD-WRT is a third-party firmware written for consumer level devices. Especially added with the fact that you're running it on a WRT54GL. So yeah, you contradicted yourself.

If you said something like m0n0wall or pfSense (Which I run) on an x86, then yeah, that's not consumer level.

And before you starting going goo-goo-gah-gah for DD-WRT, don't forget that many of the devices its meant for can't even use IPv6 since they've apparently decided those users with gimped FLASH roms aren't good enough to spend the time writing the extra bit of code to support IPv6. Even, at minimal, IPv6 Encapsulation is not supported.
If you want to be technical I did contradict myself, but I never I used the base firmware. I did say the stock firmware sucks. Did I not? Why would I say something sucks then turn around and use it? You are either reading too much into it or not enough.

Do you use a whole computer for your firewall? What are you trying to protect it against? DD-WRT has iptables which is a "good enough" firewall for most networks (it is a lot more powerful than you think).

And what are you talking about? I think you should rewrite that paragraph because to me it seems that your saying DD-WRT doesn't support IPv6 because of the "gimped roms".

PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

said by PapaMidnight:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

I didn't contradict myself? I said I installed DD-WRT, unless of course you didn't read my post very carefully and only wanted to take me out of context.
DD-WRT is a third-party firmware written for consumer level devices. Especially added with the fact that you're running it on a WRT54GL. So yeah, you contradicted yourself.

If you said something like m0n0wall or pfSense (Which I run) on an x86, then yeah, that's not consumer level.

And before you starting going goo-goo-gah-gah for DD-WRT, don't forget that many of the devices its meant for can't even use IPv6 since they've apparently decided those users with gimped FLASH roms aren't good enough to spend the time writing the extra bit of code to support IPv6. Even, at minimal, IPv6 Encapsulation is not supported.
If you want to be technical I did contradict myself, but I never I used the base firmware. I did say the stock firmware sucks. Did I not? Why would I say something sucks then turn around and use it? You are either reading too much into it or not enough.

Do you use a whole computer for your firewall? What are you trying to protect it against? DD-WRT has iptables which is a "good enough" firewall for most networks (it is a lot more powerful than you think).

And what are you talking about? I think you should rewrite that paragraph because to me it seems that your saying DD-WRT doesn't support IPv6 because of the "gimped roms".
As a matter of fact, yes I do use an entire computer for a firewall / NAT Router / etc.
Intel Pentium III 733MHz
256MB SDRAM
3 Linksys 10/100 NICs
pfSense

I'd like to see a 216MHz Linksys Router with 16MB of RAM stand up to that... I get going good and that DD-WRT router will be crippled in mere seconds.

As soon as I get around to it, I'm going to get some RB44G's (»www.routerboard.com/rb44.html).

And I was quite clear about my statement. Most of the devices DD-WRT has been ported to do not support any version of DD-WRT above Micro and are incapable of IPv6 as the developers do not code for it. They have not offered IPv6 Encapsulation either (look up IPv6 Tunnel Brokers).

So users with WRT54Gv5-8.2 and the newer, slim, black WRT54Gs have no prospects of IPv6, unless DD-WRT developers see fit to code support for it into their "Micro" distribution. This point is not limited merely to the WRT54G line either as most devices "supported" ( »www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/ ··· are.html ) by DD-WRT only support the "Micro" or "Mini" distributions. Neither of which, as established, supports IPv6.
k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

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said by PapaMidnight:

As a matter of fact, yes I do use an entire computer for a firewall / NAT Router / etc.
Intel Pentium III 733MHz
256MB SDRAM
3 Linksys 10/100 NICs
pfSense

I'd like to see a 216MHz Linksys Router with 16MB of RAM stand up to that... I get going good and that DD-WRT router will be crippled in mere seconds.

As soon as I get around to it, I'm going to get some RB44G's (»www.routerboard.com/rb44.html).

And I was quite clear about my statement. Most of the devices DD-WRT has been ported to do not support any version of DD-WRT above Micro and are incapable of IPv6 as the developers do not code for it. They have not offered IPv6 Encapsulation either (look up IPv6 Tunnel Brokers).

So users with WRT54Gv5-8.2 and the newer, slim, black WRT54Gs have no prospects of IPv6, unless DD-WRT developers see fit to code support for it into their "Micro" distribution. This point is not limited merely to the WRT54G line either as most devices "supported" ( »www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/ ··· are.html ) by DD-WRT only support the "Micro" or "Mini" distributions. Neither of which, as established, supports IPv6.
I really don't think ANYONE needs a whole computer as a firewall but that's besides the point.

The standard version does support IPv6 to some extent.
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/inde ··· php/IPv6

To be honest - I wouldn't use anything BUT a Linksys for DD-WRT which DD-WRT does support a good chunk for anything std and above:
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/inde ··· _Devices

Also I am running DD-WRT std on my Linksys WRT54GL and I have the option for IPv6.

WRT54Gv5 doesn't seem like its a "supported" Linksys model so why are you even mentioning it?

My dad just bought a WRT160N and it has the same memory as my WRT54GL and its supported so I don't see why he couldn't run std. So, your theory of newer Linksys models not being able to run DD-WRT has just been put to rest.

Just curious - why are you trying to throw around misinformation?

djdanska
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San Diego, CA

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As long as it has a broadcom chip in it, your usually good. My wrt160n v2 doesn't, and can't run dd-wrt. The v1 model does though. Doesn't say v1 or v2 on the box, otherwise i wouldn't have not bought it.
k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

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said by djdanska:

As long as it has a broadcom chip in it, your usually good. My wrt160n v2 doesn't, and can't run dd-wrt. The v1 model does though. Doesn't say v1 or v2 on the box, otherwise i wouldn't have not bought it.
Yeah I think after they realized that people started to flash the router with third party firmware (and possibly after Cisco bought them out) I don't see the version number on the outside. Though, you can always look up UPC code before hand and compare. This one reason why I made the blanket statement of only buying a WRT54GL because both versions can support any version of DD-WRT. This way I don't have to specifically hunt down a version.

RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

said by djdanska:

As long as it has a broadcom chip in it, your usually good. My wrt160n v2 doesn't, and can't run dd-wrt. The v1 model does though. Doesn't say v1 or v2 on the box, otherwise i wouldn't have not bought it.
Yeah I think after they realized that people started to flash the router with third party firmware (and possibly after Cisco bought them out) I don't see the version number on the outside. Though, you can always look up UPC code before hand and compare. This one reason why I made the blanket statement of only buying a WRT54GL because both versions can support any version of DD-WRT. This way I don't have to specifically hunt down a version.
I think the serial number is also on the box and the prefix will identify the version number.
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