http://www.dslreports.com/forum/gg-50000-ms-latency-22851423 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:01:09 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:01:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22882910 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22882910 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:41:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22864796 said by Kord:

Hows the HTTPS pages do? Most companies use a secure site for remote access
Don't confuse the two. HTTPS websites are very poor over consumer-grade satellite, because the latency DOES get in the way. You can't, or at least you shouldn't, proxy a secure site since the proxy would have to be able to "read" the data. So every element of the connection will involve request/response. I hate dealing with PayPal over satellite, which I have to do a lot. At least my commercial-grade satellite is a bit better, but still poor.

Secure business connections (VPN), whether done over SSL, IPSec, PPTP, or whatever, are not nearly as bad as dealing with a secure webpage. They take longer to establish than they would over terrestrial, but once connected they move reasonably well. IPSec won't work over Hughes without a static IP, since their routers don't handle passthrough. I've used PPTP with Hughes fairly well, but prefer IPSec over the commercial satellite connection.
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I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22863743 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:38:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22858026
Issues primarily come from three sources:

FAP, which is what it is, take it or leave it.
Speeds way below expected averages experienced by some percentage of users.
Desire to use the system for things it isn't going to work for, including streaming video, P2P, etc.

The second one is the one that is most deserving of attention - at any given time there are always a few Hughes gateways that are performing very badly. No amount of complaints from anyone ever get them fixed - sometimes it is months before the gnome in the bunker who is the only one who can do anything notices that it has a problem - no lower-level employee is allowed to talk to him.

I found myself on one of those a month ago on my Hughes account. The advantage I have, as do about 10K other mobile users with reseller accounts, was that a 2-minute phone call and a 1-hour wait got me moved to another satellite (the only way known to force a gateway change). Since my dishes are auto-pointing it is not necessary to involve an installer.

Don't get me wrong, I always go through some withdrawal when I leave my DSL connection and hit the road, but it only takes a few days to adjust. I just spent a couple of weeks in Jasper and Banff National Parks in the Canadian Rockies, and I was likely the only one for miles around with an internet connection, not to mention a working telephone, since cell service is non-existent up in the icefields.
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 105W or 121W, .74 meter G74 on 83W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Sprint Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of PC-OPI and DSSatTool]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22858026 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:23:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22857935 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22857935 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:09:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852872
I use a lot of connections over the course of time, including an office T-1 and a home 6-meg DSL, and the Hughes connection serves a complex web page as fast as any of them. The "hesitation" before the entire page suddenly shows up can be a bit misleading, but put a clock on it and you will see.

My iDirect connection, which has significantly higher speeds and latency at the bottom-end of satellite-theoretical (~550ms), has no proxy and thus sucks for web pages. It does, however, work fine for VPN and VoIP which are important to me.
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 105W or 121W, .74 meter G74 on 83W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Sprint Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of PC-OPI and DSSatTool]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852872 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:54:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852570 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852570 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:43:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852118
As an aside regarding the AMC-15 issue, that satellite looks pretty full when seen from a spectrum analyzer. As my sig shows it is one of the satellites I use for connection on an iDirect (KU) system.
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Motosat self-pointing dishes: 1.2-meter XF-3 on 105W or 121W, .74 meter G74 on 83W, SL-5 HD DirecTV|idirect 3100|Hughes HN7000S|Sprint Air Card|1990 Blue Bird Wanderlodge Bus "Blue Thunder"|Author of PC-OPI and DSSatTool]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-gg-50000-ms-latency-22852118 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:06:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/gg-50000-ms-latency-22851423
So easy to install and so fastnot that you'll be forced take a vacation when you download a 1MB file with the 50,000ms latency!
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