Topic 'Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive' in forum 'Computer Hardware Help' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23125039 en Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:15:06 EDT Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:15:06 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive-solved! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23136341 said by lmacmil:

said by ross7:

I guess you have an USB keyboard, but don't have "Legacy USB Devices" enabled in your BIOS, right? The BIOS should have auto-determined the keyboard type anyway, so maybe your keyboard is flakey?
I think the keyboard is flakey. My right ) key doesn't work about 1/2 the time. I know the function keys used to work in the BIOS setup but they don't any more. I did have legacy USB devices enabled but that didn't make it work. It's a 2 or 3 year old MS ComfortCurve keyboard.
Dump it, keyboards are cheap. Hey, maybe you have one of those esoteric new keyboard virii, and instead of reformatting your HDD or intercepting your bank passwords, it is simply making you waste your time while causing you to type nonsense. I suspect a keyboard manufacturer has planted it to increase business due to cheapskates *ahem* who don't replace their keyboards as often as the industry would like...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23136341 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:32:21 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive-solved! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23135817 said by ross7:

I guess you have an USB keyboard, but don't have "Legacy USB Devices" enabled in your BIOS, right? The BIOS should have auto-determined the keyboard type anyway, so maybe your keyboard is flakey?
I think the keyboard is flakey. My right ) key doesn't work about 1/2 the time. I know the function keys used to work in the BIOS setup but they don't any more. I did have legacy USB devices enabled but that didn't make it work. It's a 2 or 3 year old MS ComfortCurve keyboard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23135817 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:47:14 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive-solved! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23135469 said by lmacmil:

said by lmacmil:

Currently running XP, need to boot from DVD to install Windows 7.

During the boot process it says "hit any key to boot from CD/DVD" but when I hit a key, it boots from the hard drive.

Turned out to be my keyboard. When I was asked to hit any key to boot from the CD, the enter key and spacebar inputs were not recognized. Figured it out when I hit F12 on the boot screen to specify where to boot from and nothing happened. Hit a whole bunch of keys the next time and one of them took and it booted from the SATA DVD drive just like it was supposed to.
Didn't see this post before I got all pedantic on you. Big DUH! I guess you have an USB keyboard, but don't have "Legacy USB Devices" enabled in your BIOS, right? The BIOS should have auto-determined the keyboard type anyway, so maybe your keyboard is flakey? Or, was it just some isolated case of weirdness? Do you live in Bermuda?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23135469 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:43:29 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23135314
If so, you have one IDE 40-pin header on the motherboard to which you connect the two IDE drives as follows:

1) IDE Hard drive is jumpered as [Master] (or more correctly, [Master/Slave Present]), and the IDE CD/ROM is jumpered as [Slave]. OR, both IDE drives are jumpered as [Cable Select].

2) You have an 80-wire/40-pin IDE data cable with a Blue end connector, a Gray middle connector, and a Black end connector. The Blue end connector is attached to the motherboard IDE header, the Gray middle connector is attached to the CD/ROM drive, and the Black end connector is attached to the hard drive. The Red wire of the IDE data cable is oriented to pin #1 of the on-board IDE header, and to the power cable connector end of the IDE connector (pin #1) on each of the IDE drives.

3) You have the SATA DVD/RW drive attached via a SATA cable to one of the six on-board SATA headers. It doesn't really matter which one, as each SATA device is a "master", and I only specified SATA2-0 so we would be talking apples to apples when discussing the various drives and their points of connection.

4) In your BIOS, you are able to set IDE device detection to [None], [Auto] and [Manual].

5) For channel-0/device-0 (HDD), and channel--0/device1 (CD/ROM), you must set IDE device detection to [Auto], or [Manual], to detect a drive attached to the the on-board IDE header. NOTE: If you choose [Manual], you must enter the drives parameters; e.g., head/cylinder/sector info in the case of a hard drive. If you choose [Auto], the BIOS determines the type of device, and its characteristics. [Auto] is the preferred setting. If you leave the BIOS set at its default value of [None] for each IDE device, it will assume NO DEVICE is connected to that channel/position. Select [Auto] for at least the channels/positions you have devices connected to, other wise set all IDE device channels/positons to [Auto]. However, if all are set to [Auto], the system boot will be delayed to search for the "connected" devices that aren't really there.

6) So, refer to #1, above, and remember to set the boot order in the BIOS to CD/ROM, CD/ROM and HDD (or Floppy, USB, LS120, ZIP, etc.). The BIOS will look at each optical drive in turn to find the optical drive with the media in it, and try to boot from it. If the operating system/installer fails to find/boot from the whichever optical drive has the media in it, it will fail-over to the next device that is bootable; the HDD, Floppy, USB, LS120, ZIP, etc., as selected in the boot order in the BIOS.

7) Re-check your IDE drive jumpers. Check your IDE cable to determine it is good; e.g., test it on another system. Check the power connectors from the power supply to the CD/ROM drive. Check your BIOS setup for boot order, IDE device mode and IDE device recognition. TURN OFF RAID in the BIOS.

8) Leave the SATA DVD/RW drive disconnected entirely from the system until you have both the HDD and the CD/ROM working on IDE channel-0, device-0 and device-1, respectively, and recognized correctly as Master (HDD)/Slave (CD/ROM). Once those two drives are setup and properly working, then connect the SATA drive to a SATA header, and enable IDE Device detection for that channel/position. When all three drives are properly set up and working, set the boot order to boot from the optical devices first and second, before the HDD.

9) Check to see if your BIOS has a selection to set SCSI/SATA device boot order. If it does, set it to [SATA/SCSI].

10) If you have the HDD and the DVD being recognized correctly without the CD/ROM drive installed, as you say you have, and the boot device set to [CD/ROM]-[CD/ROM]-[HDD] order, you should be able to boot from the Windows media, if it is bootable and not just an upgrade disk. You can always add the CD/ROM drive back into the system after you have Windows installed, and working.

Good luck!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23135314 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:12:58 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive-solved! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23134175 said by lmacmil:

Currently running XP, need to boot from DVD to install Windows 7.

During the boot process it says "hit any key to boot from CD/DVD" but when I hit a key, it boots from the hard drive.

Turned out to be my keyboard. When I was asked to hit any key to boot from the CD, the enter key and spacebar inputs were not recognized. Figured it out when I hit F12 on the boot screen to specify where to boot from and nothing happened. Hit a whole bunch of keys the next time and one of them took and it booted from the SATA DVD drive just like it was supposed to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drivesolved-23134175 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:51:26 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23129185 said by ross7:

If they still don't show up in the IDE device list in BIOS, you may have a defective IDE data cable. Make sure you have a good 80-wire/40-pin IDE cable.
All the devices show up in the BIOS device list and have all along. I removed the CDROM and re-connected the SATA cable to SATA2_4 (SATA port 5). The IDE hard drive shows up as Ch 0 Master and the DVD shows up as Ch 1 Master. I have not yet switched the HD jumper from master to cable select (not sure why that would make a difference but I will try it.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23129185 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:44:57 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23129139 said by Smoove910:

What happens if you unplug the IDE CD ROM and try?
Same result, boots from the HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23129139 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:27:26 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23127452 said by lmacmil:

said by ross7:

Check out the manual pages above to see if you are configured correctly.

If I were you, I'd first try the default configuration in which the BIOS recognizes/treats SATA devices as IDE. I would cycle through the "Boot Order" selecting the first boot device as CD/ROM, the second boot device as CD/ROM, and the third boot device as HDD-0.
My system is configured as you have shown with the DVD connected to SATA2_0 and all the defaults (i.e., SATA ports in native IDE mode). The DVD shows up in the BIOS as IDE master 2 with master 1 being blank. The IDE hard disk and CDROM are master 0 and slave 0.

I will try your suggestion of having CDROM as both 1st and 2nd boot devices. Thanks.
Did you proceed down the list of IDE devices, as shown in figure 2-4 above, and toggle [None] to [Auto]?

If you did, and the PATA hard drive is jumpered as Master, with the ATAPI optical drive jumpered as Slave, both connected to the primary 40-pin IDE channel header on the motherboard, then you can try re-jumpering both the IDE drives to [Cable Select]. If they still don't show up in the IDE device list in BIOS, you may have a defective IDE data cable. Make sure you have a good 80-wire/40-pin IDE cable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23127452 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:51:41 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23127388 said by ross7:

Check out the manual pages above to see if you are configured correctly.

If I were you, I'd first try the default configuration in which the BIOS recognizes/treats SATA devices as IDE. I would cycle through the "Boot Order" selecting the first boot device as CD/ROM, the second boot device as CD/ROM, and the third boot device as HDD-0.
My system is configured as you have shown with the DVD connected to SATA2_0 and all the defaults (i.e., SATA ports in native IDE mode). The DVD shows up in the BIOS as IDE master 2 with master 1 being blank. The IDE hard disk and CDROM are master 0 and slave 0.

I will try your suggestion of having CDROM as both 1st and 2nd boot devices. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23127388 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:34:19 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126843 manual (6.56MB) from GigaByte's website.

As can be seen, the motherboard only has a single IDE 40-pin channel connector. You have the PATA HDD and the ATAPI optical drive as Master/Slave (respectively) attached to this controller.

Your SATA optical drive could be attached to any of the available SATA ports shown on the mobo layout, but preferably, as I have highlighted, SATA2-0. Enable [AUTO] detect for IDE Channel 0 Master/Slave, and IDE Channel 1 Master. Leave the rest of the IDE channels at the default [None]. (SEE Fig 2-4 above)

If I were you, I'd first try the default configuration in which the BIOS recognizes/treats SATA devices as IDE. I would cycle through the "Boot Order" selecting the first boot device as CD/ROM, the second boot device as CD/ROM, and the third boot device as HDD-0.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126843 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:06:09 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126552 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126552 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:49:05 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126523 said by Smoove910:

Never good to have a CD rom as a slave to a harddrive.
This has never caused a problem for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126523 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:38:45 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126520 said by ross7:

Motherboard model?
GA-MA78GM-US2H]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126520 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:38:08 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126444 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126444 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:18:35 EDT Re: [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126429 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23126429 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:15:37 EDT [optical] Can't boot from SATA DVD drive http://www.dslreports.com/forum/optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23125039
Gigabyte mobo with AMD 780G chipset. One IDE harddrive with IDE CDROM as slave and SATA DVD set to "native IDE" in the BIOS.

The BIOS options for boot order show hard disk and CDROM (plus all the typical others). I set the priority to CDROM first, then hard disk. During the boot process it says "hit any key to boot from CD/DVD" but when I hit a key, it boots from the hard drive.

What do I need to do to boot from the SATA DVD drive?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/optical-Cant-boot-from-SATA-DVD-drive-23125039 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:15:19 EDT